Firefox, again
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@pie_flavor said in Firefox, again:
@ben_lubar said in Firefox, again:
@gąska said in Firefox, again:
Quantum is written in Rust. They have to get it right or it won't compile.
Feature request for Rust: compiler refuses to compile code that does not do exactly what the programmer wants.
Feature request for Rust: compiler ever compiles code that does exactly what the programmer wants.
Feature request: Programmers who actually know what they want.
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@cvi it would be easier to tell what I want if I knew what I need and what the library has to offer and how it works. I've just spent whole day figuring out WPF data binding. Based on snippets-explanations ratio on SO and various blogs, cargo culting is strong in this ecosystem.
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The TDWTF Lounge (background I guess) freezes Firefox 58 nightly for me. It is the only site where I observe this effect.
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@cvi said in Firefox, again:
@pie_flavor said in Firefox, again:
@ben_lubar said in Firefox, again:
@gąska said in Firefox, again:
Quantum is written in Rust. They have to get it right or it won't compile.
Feature request for Rust: compiler refuses to compile code that does not do exactly what the programmer wants.
Feature request for Rust: compiler ever compiles code that does exactly what the programmer wants.
Feature request: Programmers who actually know what they want.
It's a lot easier to tell you what I don't want!
Filed under: actual quote
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@gąska said in Firefox, again:
They have to get it right or it won't compile.
There are always higher level bugs that can trip you up. Compilers can never prove the total correctness of your code, not even with far more information than Rust has. (It's well known that Haskell and Scala programs can have bugs, and they've got a much better handle on the intention of the programmer via their type systems than Rust has.)
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@dkf said in Firefox, again:
@gąska said in Firefox, again:
They have to get it right or it won't compile.
There are always higher level bugs that can trip you up. Compilers can never prove the total correctness of your code, not even with far more information than Rust has. (It's well known that Haskell and Scala programs can have bugs, and they've got a much better handle on the intention of the programmer via their type systems than Rust has.)
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@dkf said in Firefox, again:
Compilers can never prove the total correctness of your code, not even with far more information than Rust has.
thatsthejoke.i7x
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@heterodox Compilers are no laughing matter.
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@jbert Unless you're programming in LOLcode.
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@cvi said in Firefox, again:
@pie_flavor said in Firefox, again:
@ben_lubar said in Firefox, again:
@gąska said in Firefox, again:
Quantum is written in Rust. They have to get it right or it won't compile.
Feature request for Rust: compiler refuses to compile code that does not do exactly what the programmer wants.
Feature request for Rust: compiler ever compiles code that does exactly what the programmer wants.
Feature request: Programmers who actually know what they want.
Hey! Don't blame us! It's the Users fault. And/or marketing. And/or Product Managers. (yeah, we're being told our group is in the critical path, we're 2 weeks behind, but - oh yeah - you can't work on that feature because we haven't figured out what we want yet)
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@tsaukpaetra said in Firefox, again:
It's a lot easier to tell you what I don't want!
Give me a comprehensive list of all the behaviors you don't want, and I'll give you code that doesn't do that.
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@kian said in Firefox, again:
Give me a comprehensive list of all the behaviors you
don'twant, and I'll give you code that doesn't do that.^^^ what I read on the first attempt. I then thought "yeah, maybe a bit pessimistic, but fairly accurate."
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@ben_lubar said in Firefox, again:
@gąska said in Firefox, again:
Quantum is written in Rust. They have to get it right or it won't compile.
Feature request for Rust: compiler refuses to compile code that does not do exactly what the programmer wants.
Huh, that might be prone to side effects.
I mean, just imagine a jaded developer who secretly longs for the sweet embrace of death?
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@rhywden said in Firefox, again:
@ben_lubar said in Firefox, again:
@gąska said in Firefox, again:
Quantum is written in Rust. They have to get it right or it won't compile.
Feature request for Rust: compiler refuses to compile code that does not do exactly what the programmer wants.
Huh, that might be prone to side effects.
I mean, just imagine a jaded developer who secretly longs for the sweet embrace of death?
Write code targeting the Note 7.
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FF or ABP. Don't know. Fucking DPI...
(this is on the 100% monitor. Main monitor is 4K@250%)
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@dcon Maybe make your browser 3 pixels wider?
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@dcon try resizing your monitor
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@dcon I don't understand people who get 4K monitors. You're upscaling so you don't gain any real estate, but now you have to deal with countless DPI scaling bugs in virtually every application there is. And it doesn't even look that much better than HD!
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@gąska said in Firefox, again:
@dcon I don't understand people who get 4K monitors. You're upscaling so you don't gain any real estate, but now you have to deal with countless DPI scaling bugs in virtually every application there is. And it doesn't even look that much better than HD!
Actually, things that truly do understand dpi look a lot better. But I definitely tell my non-computer savy friends to avoid HDPI because of all the issues.
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@dcon I might be biased by always having low-end GPU and playing games with anti-aliasing disabled well into 2010s.
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@pie_flavor said in Firefox, again:
@rhywden said in Firefox, again:
@ben_lubar said in Firefox, again:
@gąska said in Firefox, again:
Quantum is written in Rust. They have to get it right or it won't compile.
Feature request for Rust: compiler refuses to compile code that does not do exactly what the programmer wants.
Huh, that might be prone to side effects.
I mean, just imagine a jaded developer who secretly longs for the sweet embrace of death?
Write code targeting the Note 7.
Just imagine the error codes, though:
ERROR 0x007845: WORLD_HUNGER_NOT_SOLVED
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@gąska text looks much better. These days I mostly use my desktop pc for gaming and reading stuff, and with 1080p on a 24" monitor the individual pixels are quite visible and make text pretty ugly at times (I've been spoiled by one of those fancy Mac displays).
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@gąska said in Firefox, again:
@dcon I might be biased by always having low-end GPU and playing games with anti-aliasing disabled well into 2010s.
You don't need a 4K monitor to get the smoothness provided by rendering a game at 4K. NVIDIA cards even have a setting to pretend your screen is larger than it actually is for video games. SSAA is the best antialiasing in existence, but it's pretty expensive because you're effectively just making a bigger picture instead of doing some tricks with the depth buffer.
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@ben_lubar said in Firefox, again:
You don't need a 4K monitor to get the smoothness provided by rendering a game at 4K.
No, but you need a 4K eye to notice it. Which I don't have.
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@gąska said in Firefox, again:
@ben_lubar said in Firefox, again:
You don't need a 4K monitor to get the smoothness provided by rendering a game at 4K.
No, but you need a 4K eye to notice it. Which I don't have.
Not really. Here, let me demonstrate:
Here's your name in 100px Noto Sans with no antialiasing:
Here it is again with GIMP's antialias filter applied:
Here's what you get when your name is in 400px Noto Sans but it gets scaled down to a quarter of the width and height:
Personally, I can see a very distinct improvement from each image to the next. I assume you can too.
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@ben_lubar text is somewhat of a special case though--all hard contrast and sharp lines. The effect is much less for textured things. Not zero, but less apparent.
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@ben_lubar said in Firefox, again:
Personally, I can see a very distinct improvement from each image to the next. I assume you can too.
Between 1 and 2, I can see it. But if I saw the images separately I wouldn't be able to tell. 3 is obviously better.