Magic pronouns considered harmful
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I'm certainly feeling oppressed,
People who can't tell the difference between simple words certainly do have it rough, in our society.
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*yawn*
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Right, you were happily arguing a second ago now you're suddenly bored? Doesn't take your prodigious critical thinking skills to know what that means.
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Nope, it doesn't--it means you out-tedioused me.
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You're ignorant. You just outright admitted to not knowing the meaning of the words you've been using, and if you think gaining a basic understanding of your own language is tedious; that's got nothing on trying to communicate with someone who doesn't have one.
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You're ignorant.
You having fun with this pointless conversation? I'm not even wasting any effort on it.
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Racism consists of ideologies and practices that justify or cause the unequal distribution of privileges, rights or goods between different racial groups.
tl;dr: A politically-motivated persuasive definition made it onto wikipedia, and I'm using that instead of the dictionary definition because I agree with the politics.
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@Buddy said:
Racism consists of ideologies and practices that justify or cause the unequal distribution of privileges, rights or goods between different racial groups.
tl;dr: A politically-motivated persuasive definition made it onto wikipedia, and I'm using that instead of the dictionary definition because
I agree with the politics.it oneboxes
Confer:
Anyway, I challenge you to find a dictionary definition—any dictionary—where saying that white people aren't oppressed fits in under racism.
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Thanks. It's nice to get an easy win every now and then.
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idk, this
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/the-funny-stuff-thread/2628/2360I'll leave you to your hyperbole, then.
but I'm pretty sure there's other things @frostcat's said where it seems like he thinks discrimination against white dudes is a real problem in the world.
So what you're saying is that it's OK to discriminate against people for arbitrary reasons so long as you can justify it by someone else doing something wrong? Is that your position? How very intersectional of you.
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Anyway, I challenge you to find a dictionary definition—any dictionary—where saying that white people aren't oppressed fits in under racism.
I don't even know what you're asking for. But a definition of racism that mentions specific races (not counting examples, I'm talking about the actual definition) seems wrong to me. It's certainly not how I would use the word, though I know that many people do. Those fuckers probably say shit like, "I could care less," when they really couldn't, so you know what they're opinions are worth. <haha! gramming bait!>
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"I don't play colleges, but I hear a lot of people tell me, 'Don't go near colleges. They're so PC,'" said Seinfeld.
He continued, "I'll give you an example: My daughter's 14. My wife says to her, 'Well, you know, in the next couple years, I think maybe you’re going to want to be hanging around the city more on the weekends, so you can see boys.' You know what my daughter says? She says, ‘That’s sexist.’"
Seinfeld said college students don't understand racism and sexism. "They just want to use these words: 'That’s racist;' 'That’s sexist;' 'That’s prejudice.' They don’t even know what the f—k they’re talking about.”
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I hope his wife said "don't say stupid stuff."
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They don’t even know what the f—k they’re talking about.”
So true of so many people.
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What I'm trying to say is, racism is a whole different level of thing than prejudice or discrimination. And sure maybe racism against white people does exist, in imaginary places like Japan or something. But for real people, racism against white people just isn't something yore gonna experience.
@Frostcat is always eager to tell everybody else to get over themselves when they start talking about inequality of any kind, but then as soon as anyone says anything about white guys suddenly he's the one crying racism.
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racism is a whole different level of thing than prejudice or discrimination
Racism is prejudice and discrimination by definition. And yes, racism against whites does exist. Evidence? The pejorative term 'cracker', for one.
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@Frostcat is always eager to tell everybody else to get over themselves when they start talking about inequality of any kind, but then as soon as anyone says anything about white guys suddenly he's the one crying racism.
Keep dreamin', bud.
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You're not following the chart
I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying that under the paradise that will result from abolishing patriarchy, there will be no people considered to not have value? If so, that seriously conflicts with how SJWs treat members of privileged groups in practice.
I can see a few advantages to abolishing the patriarchy. For example, instead of being socially obligated to buy an overpriced lump of carbon mounted on some precious metal to show my affection to someone of the opposite sex, perhaps she will instead buy me a reasonably-optioned Corvette to show her affection.
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Jesus fucking christ, hedgehog, look it fucking dictionary already. Read a god damned history book*. If you think racism is just the same as calling people names I don't know what to tell you.
*Or don't, up to you. If you're not planning to become a Social Injustice Warrior like @boomzilla or Mr. I-get-off-on-hurting-weak-people over here, it'll probably never come up.
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Yay, someone else who doesn't bother reading what I write
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Next time just say what I wanted to hear in the first place, then we won't have to go through this whole pointless charade.
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Next time just say what I wanted to hear in the first place, then we won't have to go through this whole pointless charade
Not enough poop, capital letters, or frothing at the mouth. I give this ersatz blakeyrant a 2 out of 5.
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Jesus fucking christ, hedgehog, look it fucking dictionary already.
You've accidentally at least two words.
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I see; you just can't handle someone thinking different to you. Pathetic, really
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If you think racism is just the same as calling people names
No, but the post there said that calling people names is included in the very wide category of actions you can take that are motivated by racism.
Racism isn't an action.
I am white[1] I can burn a cross on a white person's yard. That most likely isn't motivated by racism. Unless I have some extreme form of white guilt that I apply to other whites, which isn't guilt... ok bad tangent.
Point being, racism is a state of the heart, not an action.
1 (for the purpose of this post. I look white, but I'm white and native american and a ton of other stuff, 90% white. Whatever white means. Does one drop rule apply?).
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Go sunbathing. Now you're not white anymore!
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Well, last I checked I was splotchy pink-peach.
And there are some people who are some shade of brown.I have yet to find a white or black person.
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You're racist against... foreheads?
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@Buddy said:
Jesus fucking christ, hedgehog, look it fucking dictionary already.
You've accidentally at least two words.I see; you just can't handle someone thinking different to you. Pathetic, really
Look, after I spent the better part of thirty seconds explaining that racism isn't the same as prejudice, you come in and simply assert that actually they are the same thing, and offer an example of something that could at most be considered prejudice as proof of racism. I don't know why you expect me to take you seriously for that. Anyways, how do you know that you're the one who thinks differently? What if it's actually me that thinks different than you?
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I can burn a cross on a white person's yard. That most likely isn't motivated by racism.
You can see how that would be difficult for people, though, if you go and do something that has a widely accepted meaning not intending to mean the thing that everybody knows it means by it?
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You can see how that would be difficult for people, though, if you go and do something that has a widely accepted meaning not intending to mean the thing that everybody knows it means by it?
Remember that it's about burning a cross. It surely would generate much less uproar in media than burning, say, a rainbow.
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Remember that it's about burning a cross. It surely would generate much less uproar in media than burning, say, a rainbow.
Try nailing someone to the cross first. That'll generate plenty of uproar!
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Why bother with nailing to a burning cross if you can just burn them directly?
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Remember that it's about burning a cross. It surely would generate much less uproar in media than burning, say, a rainbow.
Mostly because it's your cross.
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What I'm trying to say is, racism is a whole different level of thing than prejudice or discrimination
Thanks for the clarification, Humpty Dumpty.
If you think racism is just the same as calling people names I don't know what to tell you.
Is racism like straw men?
*Or don't, up to you. If you're not planning to become a Social Injustice Warrior like @boomzilla or Mr. I-get-off-on-hurting-weak-people over here, it'll probably never come up.
LOL. That's funny.
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Look, after I spent the better part of thirty seconds explaining that racism isn't the same as prejudice,
That's like saying apple pie isn't the same as dessert, which only took me about 5 seconds to come up with and then type.
What if it's actually me that thinks different than you?
I think we should be careful throwing around words like "think."
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Mostly because it's your cross.
I'm so tempted to make a giant rainbow on my possession, then burn it and publish the burning process on YouTube... But I don't like wasting money.
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As good a place as any to drop this:
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Moral: sunbathing actually works!
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Wow. I like this quote:
“It’s very sad that Rachel has not just been herself,” Ruthanne Dolezal said. “Her effectiveness in the causes of the African-American community would have been so much more viable, and she would have been more effective if she had just been honest with everybody.”
Sure...she could still have been a professor of African-American studies and been in the NAACP.
Oh, for the people who are too good for the Daily Mail, here's the original article from the local Spokane paper:
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/jun/11/board-member-had-longstanding-doubts-about-truthfu/
Will be interesting to see if she's deft enough to play the Caitlyn card.
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play the Caitlyn card
Doesn't that require that you pull three black cards from your graveyard first?
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Disregarding the whole issue, wow, isn't her mother quite a bitch.
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To be fair I'd be more than a little bit miffed if I was one of her parents.
Dolezal's claim her parents punished her 'by skin complexion' with a 'baboon whip' reminiscent of those once used on slaves.
'She is fabricating a very false and malicious lie,' Ruthanne said.Dolezal's claim that Larry Dolezal, who is white, is actually her stepfather.
'Anybody who lives in the town of Troy or Libby knows that Larry is her father,' Ruthanne said.
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But for real people, racism against white people just isn't something yore gonna experience
The usual argument for this (actually, usually the stronger form of "black people can't be racist) is that racism comes from a position of power, and as the white man is the one with the power, black/minority people are never in the position where they can exert racism. To which I raise two counterpoints:
- If a black guy is prejudiced against any particular race (even other black people) that's racist in my book.
- If I have a black boss is he still unable to be racist against me?