Random Rant of the night.
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Being a job creator is like picking up the homeless person and giving them an apple.
Being a job creator is like giving someone a job. Are there any job creators you know of that like to offer more for a person's labor than the market rate1? Because I'm not sure what you could get out of a homeless person for a nice juicy apple, but I'm guessing at least a quick handy.
1I realize that I'm opening myself up here to anecdotes about how employer x offered far more for a particular role than anyone else did, and somehow managed to attract better employees because of it. I am going to ignore them.
I never said it isn't.
I'm just remarking on the reality that creating jobs and opportunities is more effective in producing change in what opportunities are available.
My opinion is that what people actually do for a living is what they add to society. What they do in their free time is just gravy. So if someone comes (or stays) home after a hard day's work, and points out that there's a homeless person over here, someone should really feed them but not me, I don't have the time or resources. I don't have a problem with that. Because from time to time, the great thing that can happen is that someone who actually is able to help will hear about the problem, and help.It's not a personal attack.
It's natural for a person to look out for their friends. It's just that doing so is equivalent to nepotism.
The idea that we can have a perfectly fair and impartial system is not realistic. The best thing we can do is have a networked system where hopefully everyone has someone looking out for them.
Ok, so I believe we agree on what the ideal would be here. In a perfect world, each person would be perfectly matched up with the job that suits their talents. Right? So, if we're on the same page so far, we can examine these things based on how far they are from that ideal.
So, on the one hand, we have people putting their own reputation on the line to vouch for someone they believe in. On the other hand, we have people handing jobs out as favors. Not equivalent.
But I have to remark that this actually fits the narrative of the SJWs. They expect to control and demand industry to die and be reborn as they see fit.
Idk, the ones I know about just like to be mindful of what they're watching. Nobody ever expected movies to be moral exemplars or anything—it's only when they start passing vices off as virtue that people feel they need to say ‘hey, that shit's not actually as great as you keep saying it is’.
That may very well be possible.
They can fail their analysis of the consumer base when trying to find a product to sell.
That doesn't mean they are performing an analysis and saying, "Fuck they want a strong female lead. Never!"
Look, I don't really know what your experience has been of the way men behave, maybe you're living somewhere where everybody is perfectly respectful of everyone around them, nobody ever goes online talking about how ridiculous western women are, can you believe all of this bullshit they come up with? But that hasn't been my experience. In my experience, people are jerks; they don't care about anyone who doesn't directly affect their lives, and if a man can go his whole life without ever needing to understand a women's point of view, he will seize that opportunity and never let go. And nothing I've ever seen out of Hollywood has led me to believe that it's different there.
Except that they are still financially bound to the bottom line result of the product
Ever heard of Hollywood Accounting? The MPAA? Does the word ‘lobbying’ mean anything to you? Someone's bound and got their bottom on the line here, but it sure aint the big studios.
Except that you're wrong.
The reality is somewhere between the ideal as I see it, and the injustice as SJWs see it.
I'm willing to accept this realistic dynamic, but SJWs are intent on proving that everything is a damn conspiracy against them.
The "patriarchy" is of the conspiracy level of the Illuminati control of everything. They can't be seen because they are everyone. Everyone that has power. In the dark, recesses. And the world needs us conspiracy theorists to drag it out into the light.
Yet for some reason many are falling for this new conspiracy.
What's the difference?
Well, both conspiracies are full of bullshit to the nth degree. But the feminist conspiracy is built upon events as people have subjectively experienced with them and can identify with. It also addresses the ability of one to shirk off responsibility for the conditions they live in. So the small amount of truth in their conspiracy is something people actually identify with.
Absolutely no one has ever thought they lost an opportunity because the Illuminati denied it to them.
But a portion of 50% of the population has convinced themselves that they've lost opportunities purely because of their gender or race. Some of which is true, but certainly no where near the numbers that believe it
I feel like you're making some pretty strong assumptions about other people's beliefs here. I realize that's just the nature of internet discussions, but still: do you believe the things you believe—as in, your core beliefs—because your life experiences have led you towards them, or is it all just a cynical ploy to try and get what you want, somehow?
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I realize that I'm opening myself up here to anecdotes about how employer x offered far more for a particular role than anyone else did, and somehow managed to attract better employees because of it. I am going to ignore them.
This is known as Efficiency Wages. Recently read an interesting post on this:
The False Prophets of Efficiency Wages - Marginal REVOLUTION
One of the least-convincing tropes of financial journalism is the article explaining how business firms can increase profits and at the same time engage in some conventional, culturally-approved, do-good activity such as improving the environment, saving energy, or helping the poor. The latest...
and if a man can go his whole life without ever needing to understand a women's point of view
If a man can go through any part of his life and understand a woman, it will be a miracle.
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If a
manwoman can go through any part ofhisher life and understand a woman, it will be a miracle.FTFY
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points out that there's a homeless person over here, someone should really feed them but not me, I don't have the time or resources. I don't have a problem with that. Because from time to time, the great thing that can happen is that someone who actually is able to help will hear about the problem, and help.
That's not who I have a problem with either. I have a problem with the person that says.
There's a poor person over there. I should bitch until everyone has to pay a tax so the problem can be solved in the way I think it should be solved.
vices off as virtue that people feel they need to say ‘hey, that shit's not actually as great as you keep saying it is’
That's a fallacy based on the idea that content has to teach a value at all.maybe you're living somewhere where everybody is perfectly respectful of everyone around them
No, I'm living somewhere, where I don't give someone a moment of thought unless they are respectful of everyone around them. I live in the reality that there are bad people, and it's best just to ignore them.
But that hasn't been my experience. In my experience, people are jerks
Because you focus on the jerks. There are very few places in the world where I can't find a decent person.
they don't care about anyone who doesn't directly affect their lives
That's only natural. Someone says 1000 people died in Haiti because of an earth quake, and I think, ok that's bad. I only find an handful of people that the fact would actually disturb them as much as their best friend dying. Everyone else just pretends it bothers them that much. It does bother people, but no one should be expected to care for every individual person as much as their closest family/friends.
This is why it's best to travel the world and see people firsthand.
if a man can go his whole life without ever needing to understand a women's point of view
They've made it impossible and non-falsifiable to understand their view. I can understand my wife's view, and in some cases even empathize with her. But a SJW's view, I will never understand it. They've made it their life career to ensure people can't understand it. Because the moment people "understand", the SJW is no longer needed.
Again, there are bad men out there, but I live in a reality where you just ignore bad people and focus on what you can change. When this is impossible, you fix it. There's been a lot of things we have fixed, but we can't "fix" free will.
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That's a fallacy based on the idea that content has to teach a value at all.
This is another example of your trademark satire, right? I mean, you can't possibly believe that Elsa is a SJW, can you? She does the dictionary definition of Going Galt: caves under the weight of her responsibility and ducks off up into the mountains where she doesn't have to deal with anybody. You know what SJW stands for, right? Social Justice Warrior. How do any of those words apply to Elsa even a little bit?
And Sure if you compare it to some superhuman ideal, Let It Go doesn't describe ideal behavior. But this is still basically a child we're talking about; she just had her coming of age ceremony that very day. And her parents both dead, and even when they were alive they spent her whole life teaching her to repress her emotions, if you understand how that self-actualizing, figuring out how to be yourself phase is an absolutely necessary part of every young adult's development, the fact that she was able to figure that out all by herself is really quite impressive.
And your claim that Anna actually did realize the gravity of her situation most the time and was appropriately afraid but just didn't show it is entirely unfounded. She jumps off a mountain without so much as a glance, not just once but twice— the second time with a knife in her hand, just to up the ante a bit. You don't need to have passed high-school English to be able to analyze what they were trying to say by putting that in.
Anyway, my favourite part of that movie is how they made the princesses in it behave exactly like clueless romcom rich kids from our reality. If you've read the feudalism thread you might know why that appeals to me.
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This is another example of your trademark satire
Somewhat.
you can't possibly believe that Elsa is a SJW, can you
No, but I'm watching SJW praise her for being a hero. A hero that does absolutely nothing heroic. The parallel is amusing.
I'm trying to understand why people see Elsa as heroic and fail to notice Anna's heroism at all.
The rest is just speculation on why that is.
Either way, I like to bring attention to it when I can.
basically a child we're talking about
Fair enough.
figuring out how to be yourself phase
Oh yes, be yourself, self-actualize while your country is freezing and dying.
I'm not criticizing her for that. I'm criticizing the people that think that "being yourself" is somehow heroic.
figure that out all by herself is really quite impressive
Especially since her parents heard what to do, and came up with a plan that did the exact opposite.
And your claim that Anna actually did realize the gravity of her situation
I don't actually believe that. That was just a concession to someone up there that didn't believe Anna was heroic at all and that Anna was just naive.
Anna may have been naive in understanding Elsa's problem, but that's mostly because she was never made aware of the actual problem, just the symptoms.
She absolutely was not naive in jumping chasms. And she was able to think quickly. Fall into a pile of snow that she's been told is safe, or stay with snow monster. I don't think she ignored the possibility that falling could still kill her.
What I was saying, is that, we don't get to see her internal dialog. So we don't know to what level she was naive, and what level she was just brave.
I'm assuming brave, because most normal people understand that falls kill. You'd have to suggest that she was mentally damaged to think she was naive.
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A hero that does absolutely nothing heroic.
Heroes ain't what they used to be. We've defined heroism down.
I'm not criticizing her for that. I'm criticizing the people that think that "being yourself" is somehow heroic.
An Ace cob had a good rant that I'd been meaning to post around here, this seems like a good a place as any...
http://minx.cc:1080/?post=356686
It starts with:
A popular and growing idea in the 90's and early 00's was that people should strive to "own their feelings."
...then goes on to discuss related current innovations in triggering:
Lately, there has been some kind of social movement in the direction of taking no responsibility whatsoever for one's emotions: a total hand off, and it's done openly and without a hint of recognition an individual might actually be responsible for his or her own feelings.
He talks about what triggering meant before this (i.e., people with serious mental problems, like Dissociative Identity Disorder).
Maybe owning our feelings should become a thing again.
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http://minx.cc:1080/?post=356686
It's [triggers in general] not about the New Victorians[1] and things that make them uncomfy, even if they do get the vapours on occasion.
I LOLd.
And there is absolutely no need to worry about triggering Social Justice Warrior snowflakes and prudes
Twice.
[1]
https://twitter.com/rdbrewer4/status/598286088667533312
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What the fuck are you talking about? A shitty Disney cartoon? WHAT THE HELL.
Why does a guy who loves anime porn even watch Disney family movies?
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Why does a guy who loves anime porn even watch Disney family movies?
Do you really want to know the answer to that question?
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Why does a guy who loves anime porn even watch Disney family movies?
Are you seriously saying you've never had a cheeky hand shandy over Fiona in Shrek 2?
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If people like to live with a stick shoved up their ass that can be twisted by any fool that offends them...
Well, they get the misery they deserve.
I find it funny when sjw tell me women live with oppression so much they don't even realize it.
I'm thinking, you live with misery so mired deep that you don't even realize it.
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Well, you like watching bad things on purpose.
So, those should be on your list too right?
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If people like to live with a stick shoved up their ass that can be twisted by any fool that offends them...
Well, they get the misery they deserve
But that's not really the point. The point is to control / stigmatize the badthink people with the tantrums.
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That won't work.
The best thing to do is just ignore them.
Pretend they don't exist.
And when you fight the policies they try to implement (because you have to fight bad policies), act like they aren't a part of the policy at all.
Pretend they don't exist, that's how you make them go insane.
Because I promise you that "what I want my son to know" wouldn't be having that speech if she didn't have an audience.
Their entire ideology is like the show Lost. It's made up of the stuff they've convinced other people want to see.
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but it does work a lot of the time.
Because the lot of people are cowards.
They haven't had their mettle tested.
I swear, we live in a world ignorant of the fact that Russia is trying to re-engage the cold war, because people today are so beyond war.
Naive arrogance.
The news is so focused on the Muslims, they haven't reported that America has a line of bases facing Russia in mid-eastern Europe now.
This first-world-problem nonsense will go away somewhere in this century when we wake up with a boot on our throat.
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but SJWs are intent on proving that everything is a damn conspiracy against them.
those hellbent and railing against the SJWs are also intent on proving everything is an SJW conspiracy against them too.
SJWs and diehard anti-SJWs are both equally stupid.
And the only thing I can think of when i see someone say "SJW" is a pair of losers living in their moms' basements arguing with each other. I blame 4chan and encyclopediadramatica. And reality.
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SJWs and diehard anti-SJWs are both equally stupid.
Men's Rights Activists Boycott Mad Max: Fury Road | The Mary Sue
A+ performance, Charlize Theron. Dudes are literally terrified that you'll ACT them all into becoming feminists.
I disagree.
BTW minor quibble: American culture? Mad Max is the most Australian thing ever.
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Russia is trying to re-engage the cold war
"Russia" is not trying to do anything of the sort.
Putin is running the joint as if it were his own personal fiefdom. Which, by now, it pretty much is. He knows perfectly well where his path of maximum personal profit lies, and getting distracted from the main game of extracting as much of Russia's considerable resources for his own benefit as possible, in order to tool up for another full-on multi-trillion-dollar arms race against NATO, is not it.
The man is a master criminal, not a complete fucking idiot.
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If people like to live with a stick shoved up their ass that can be twisted by any fool that offends them...
Well, they get the misery they deserve.
And if people like to demonstrate their awesome grip on their Free Speech peens by being as casually, inconsiderately, deliberately offensive as possible to as many different kinds of vulnerable people as they possibly can, then they fully deserve to gain the reputation as moronic, tedious, self-absorbed arseholes that they apparently so desperately seek.
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So Russan jets flying by UK airspace on a near weekly basis is... What?
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Trolling.
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Reliving nostalgia?
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http://minx.cc:1080/?post=356686
To continue the theme, something that cropped up when discussing this elsewhere...
Trigger warning | Geek Feminism Wiki | Fandom
Trigger warnings are customary in some feminist and other Safe spaces. They are designed to prevent unaware encountering of certain materials or subjects for the benefit of people who have an...
There is no consensus on the 'best' way to word a trigger warning so that it accurately describes the potentially-triggering content without becoming a trigger itself. The phrase "trigger warning" may itself be triggering to some trauma survivors.
There really are some special snowflakes out there...
Meta-trigger anyone?
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Like anything else, people like success. And one upping.
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@boomzilla said:
http://minx.cc:1080/?post=356686
To continue the theme, something that cropped up when discussing this elsewhere...
Trigger warnings are customary in some feminist and other Safe spaces. They are designed to prevent unaware encountering of certain materials or subjects for the benefit of people who have an...
There is no consensus on the 'best' way to word a trigger warning so that it accurately describes the potentially-triggering content without becoming a trigger itself. The phrase "trigger warning" may itself be triggering to some trauma survivors.
There really are some special snowflakes out there...
Meta-trigger anyone?
Wait, so you read the article that begins
Trigger warnings are customary in some feminist and other spaces. They are designed to prevent people who have an extremely strong and damaging emotional response (for example, post-traumatic flashbacks or urges to harm themselves) to certain subjects from encountering them unaware. Having these responses is called "being triggered".
And that didn't in any way clue you in on the fact that the opinion presented in that first article—that feminism doesn't know shit about real triggering—is at least a little bit wrong? The thing about feminism is: they're the ones running the battered women's shelters. Any die-hard feminist activist is going to have real-life experience with victims of trauma. That ‘trigger warning’ meme grew out of a community that actually did have a disproportionate amount of people with real actual problems.
So if the phrase has been appropriated by a bunch of clueless kids who've added it to their usual repertoire of “stop oppressing me, mom & dad”, that's bad, but the original reasons behind it were valid. And if women want to create spaces where such people might be able to feel safe, and have their stupid brain shit acknowledged and understood, men shouldn't see it as their life's mission to destroy those spaces.
And another thing: that MRA talking point where they'll be like “why aren't there any battered men's shelters...” is one of my most hated things about those types. Like, they're supposedly the ones campaigning for men's rights, but then as soon as they identify a problem, instead of going out and doing something about it, like the feminists did, they stand around bitching about how terrible women are for not taking care of this already.
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That ‘trigger warning’ meme grew out of a community that actually did have a disproportionate amount of people with real actual problems.
And then they spread the concept beyond all meaning. It would be nice to get those kids you mentioned to stop doing that.
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Be nice if we could keep the little shits away from our builds, too. Do they even realize the amount of care it took to get everything coming up green? :fist_shake:
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:PARP.png:
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Yes.
This guy just raped you.
http://i.imgur.com/IMiso4Y.jpg
You know what. You're making light of rape.
And that's not funny.
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is 40lb light?
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Rape (agri)culture:
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Just throwing their words back at them.
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Depends what it is that weighs 40lbs
What Things Weigh: Weight Loss Reference
Things That Weigh Approximately One Pound: Package of butter (4 sticks) 1 football 1 package of bacon 1 box of brown sugar Approximately Three Pounds: Two-slice toaster Steam Iron Can of Crisco Sho…
40 pounds = a 5-gallon bottle of water or an average human leg
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Be nice if we could keep the little shits away from our builds, too. Do they even realize the amount of care it took to get everything coming up green? :fist_shake:
LOL. Like it takes work to make green things grow around here.
(It seriously doesn't where I'm from -- besides, grass has been stomped on for far longer than us humans have been on the planet Earth.)
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You know what. You're making light of rape.
And that's not funny.
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You!?! Of all people.
The shame....
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The thing about feminism is: they're the ones running the battered women's shelters. Any die-hard feminist activist is going to have real-life experience with victims of trauma.
Overgeneralize much? No true die hard feminist?
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Science advocates
I know, I know, everyone needs a little more gravity in their lives.
Is this satire based on anything real?
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So Batman would not be the hero this guy deserves?
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Maybe if he was more in touch with his feelings he'd be a better hero. Night after night the downtrodden of Gotham would be saved by reading Batman's twitter feed where he'd retweet some pretty though provoking stuff.
What a wally.
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heh..
Hot and Bothered: The weird new fetish for Historical Racism Porn
One of the stranger developments of the last decade or two is the emergence of a widespread public taste for historical racism porn: the younger generation gets titillated in a quasi-sexual fashion by depictions of things in the past that set off their Warning: Problematic brain alarms. You can...
SJW’s have been getting hot and bothered over this ad that ran in Ebony and Jet in August 1976 for the last three years. https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/posts/2015/06/McDonalds_120/898ac79d0.jpg
