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The second is definitely a form of the first.
Not even remotely. They're two entirely, completely, different questions. Not even on the same continuum.
See, this is why I have trouble communicating, man. I can't figure out how the hell your brain gets from "how do you mark your mod posts as separate to your content posts?" to "do you abuse mod powers?" There's no link there, no link at all!
Oh and while I'm being Blakeyrat-y:
I suppose we don't mark the badge granting posts as staff color.
See, good thing I asked, because it turns out you lied when you brought this whole topic up. You are making no effort to separate mod actions from normal posting.
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You are making no effort to separate mod actions from normal posting.
To be fair, I was kinda suprised when I found out that for example the "Your flag has been noticed" messages - that @PJH or @boomzilla send around - were actually manually typed. To me it feels like repeating the same message everytime there is an action to seperate normal posts from mod/admin posts.
Also, aren't most of the staff-messages colored? I mean besides the "very important" badge granting ones.Filed Under: I have abused my user-powers by replying to a post! @boomzilla, you have been abusing your powers by DOING YOUR JOB
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To be fair, I was kinda suprised when I found out that for example the "Your flag has been noticed" messages - that @PJH or @boomzilla send around - were actually manually typed.
They're not.
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Oh...
Filed Under: I remembered that wrong then!
Also Filed Under: Actually, that explains a lot
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"Staff will never do that."
strawman argument.
Rather... "If staff do do that, you have a bigger problem. Out of scope."
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@Kuro said:
To be fair, I was kinda suprised when I found out that for example the "Your flag has been noticed" messages - that @PJH or @boomzilla send around - were actually manually typed.
They're not.
What happens is this:
- when a custom-message flag is resolved
- if there hasn't been a reply in the PM topic holding the message
- that message is inserted
- if the resolution is "agree", the message includes "We agree that there is a problem"
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So... either the system is broken @PJH seems to insert those manually?
Filed Under: pretty sure a "Muahahahaha!" resolves any kind of flag #NotModeratorAbuse
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I think the forum got way more civilized since I added @tar to my mute list.
Boo. @Onyx sucks and is a terrrible person! (seeing as he can't hear me anyway... )
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So... either the system is broken @PJH seems to insert those manually?
No, just @riking was a little imprecise.
if there hasn't been a reply in the PM topic by the staff member resolving the flag holding the message
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So... either the system is broken @PJH seems to insert those manually?
I hadn't replied in that PM before clicking the button.
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"and I will be one of the first to go into his list."
I can hardly wait to see how big the list gets, how fast, and who's on it.
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His reflexes are too fast?If anyone tried to go over his head, he would catch them?
Damn you for letting me read that while eating.
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Rather... "If staff do do that, you have a bigger problem. Out of scope."
Related security vulnerability:
MS07-052: Code execution results in code execution.
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Ummmm @sam ....
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Also this:
Shouldn't the auto-suggest disappear when you switch focus away from that field?Having said that, it doesn't auto-close in the composer either…
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You are making no effort to separate mod actions from normal posting.
Are you trying to entrap me with this bullshit or what?
See, this is why I have trouble communicating, man.
I think the problem is your ignorance. You seem to think of "moderating power" as "make a post." At least that's what this bit is telling me. You probably meant something completely different, but that's what your words are saying to me.
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You seem to think of "moderating power" as "make a post." At least that's what this bit is telling me.
That would make us all moderators… me no want that power… power make hedgy bad…
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In case it's not clear from @RaceProUK's screenshot (I'm presuming,) I updated to beta4 this morning and we should have the mute functionality on here.
It's currently the bottom box at http://what.thedailywtf.com/my/preferences
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Are you trying to entrap me with this bullshit or what?
No?
I'm asking how a user of this site can tell whether a particular post of yours is made with the "mod hat" (or whatever terminology we're using) on or off.
You said you weren't doing anything, and you should start.
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You said you weren't doing anything, and you should start.
I never said that. I said that we weren't coloring the badge grant posts, though there are other indications that I think made it obvious what was going on, and I don't think anyone has really been confused about that sort of thing. And they probably aren't what people would really think of as "moderation" actions.
Was there something else you were thinking about?
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Only moderators can grant badges -> badge granting is a moderation action.
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Was there something else you were thinking about?
I don't know; you're the one presumably doing them, and I don't have access to half the damned forums. How could I possibly answer that?
Look the question was simple: "do you mark posts made as part of moderator actions somehow?" The answer was, "no we do not but we should." As far as I'm concerned, that's the entire conversation. It's done.
I have no idea what you're talking about now, or even what you're asking me. (Presumably for examples of mod actions you did without marking them as such? I guess?)
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Presumably the badges that work off a GUID could be modified to let TL4 grant them
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That would be useless because of flag visibility rules.
And I don't really want to be bothered with badge tasks.
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Only moderators can grant badges
Not quite technically true.
Presumably the badges that work off a GUID could be modified to let TL4 grant them
This, basically.
That would be useless because of flag visibility rules.
That's only because of how we've implemented some of our badges. It's perfectly possible to allow a subset of members to grant badges, and even further restrict it to certain categories ('local semi-mods' if you like.) Not that I plan on doing any such thing on here, but it's something other forums might find useful.
And I don't really want to be bothered with badge tasks.
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As far as I'm concerned, that's the entire conversation. It's done.
You missed the beginning of the conversation and misinterpreted what you heard.
I have no idea what you're talking about now, or even what you're asking me. (Presumably for examples of mod actions you did without marking them as such? I guess?)
Yes, aside from how you got something wrong, I wanted to know if you had any other thoughts on the subject. It's perfectly fine to answer, "No." I understand now that you were just not understanding the other stuff, which is fine. Sorry for asking for clarification. I'll just make some assumptions next time.
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Was there something else you were thinking about?
There is the thing reddit does where you can make your username show up in green for official moderator posts.
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There is the thing reddit does where you can make your username show up in green for official moderator posts.
That sounds similar to making the entire post yellow (or whatever "staff color" gets styled to in the future) here.
I was more thinking about stuff I did that seemed like official moderation as opposed to normal participant stuff that wasn't obvious as to what it was.
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I'd be honestly interested in knowing if anyone thinks I've abused my powers somehow. Feel free to tell another staff member if you don't feel comfortable telling me.
You're doing fine @boomzilla. Blakey is just jelly he didn't get to become a mod. He's like a washed up high-school jock finding out the nerd he used to bully ten years ago is now his boss.
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I don't know; you're the one presumably doing them, and I don't have access to half the damned forums.
You don't have access to one, and that's because you're too pure to do it. Check your inbox, there's a pair of sunglasses and some hipster clothes.
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You don't have access to one
Well, three; aside from the Lounge, there's Turn Left for TL4 and above, and Staff for… staff.
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Well, three
I deliberately discounted TL and Staff, because nobody else has access to them either, except TL4+/staff. IOW, his own actions keep him out of the lounge, but don't keep him out of the other two.
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Well, three; aside from the Lounge, there's Turn Left for TL4 and above, and Staff for… staff.
And Rubbish. And Uncategorized.
(Yes, that last one is a category).
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Check your inbox, there's a pair of sunglasses and some hipster clothes.
Liar.
IOW, his own actions keep him out of the lounge, but don't keep him out of the other two.
That's not true. It's my lack of actions keeping me out of the lounge.
And that's only because the rules were changed on me suddenly, and I wasn't grandfathered-in because the site is developed and run by dicks.
EDIT: imagine this edit with yellow background please, this post earned a pedantic dickweed badge. -b
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Liar.
If we'd had this conversation a month ago, we probably could've used Jeff's money to buy you some.
Besides, I didn't know your size, and you wouldn't want your homespun sweater and overalls to be too large, would you?.
That's not true. It's my lack of actions keeping me out of the lounge.
Irrelevant distinction.
And that's only because the rules were changed on me suddenly
Poor Blakey, singled out to be picked on horribly by the devs. It's too bad for your attempted self-martyrdom that you admitted you unliked a bunch of posts to keep you from meeting the requirements.
It's really too bad, too, because we have cake and no testing in The Lounge.
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Poor Blakey, singled out to be picked on horribly by the devs.
I'm just saying you can't change the rules without grandfathering the people who had already gotten through the previous rules. That's not "picking on" any specific person, that's just "being an asshole".
It's too bad for your attempted self-martyrdom that you admitted you unliked a bunch of posts to keep you from meeting the requirements.
That is a blatant lie. You lying fucker. Stop lying.
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I'm just saying you can't change the rules without grandfathering the people who had already gotten through the previous rules.
Yeah, you can; it happens all the time ;)
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That is a blatant lie. You lying fucker. Stop lying.
Aww, Blakey, you shouldn't say stuff people can prove isn't true.
Oh, wait, this conversation already happened: http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/poll-if-pjh-is-willing-and-able-would-you-hide-him-behind-an-ellipsis/7327/248
You claim you were unable to unlike existing likes. I have no way to verify whether you did or did not unlike any others than the three (four) you couldn't undo, but you said you were going to, so don't try to get all sanctimonious like you never said you were going to do it.
Especially don't make a claim when you were ALREADY CALLED OUT for it.
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Have a .
Ooh, that seems like a clever idea. @blakeyrat, have another one. Anyone else think he deserves a badger?
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you admitted you unliked a bunch of posts to keep you from meeting the requirements.
That is a lie.
All you've proven is that I once went out of my way to (attempt to) unlike everything I'd previously liked.
You haven't proven I've done it to "keep myself from meeting the requirements". Which you can't, because I didn't. The post you've given as "evidence", in fact, has a completely different motive in it-- something you apparently just ignored due to being a stupid idiot who can't read.
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You actively refuse to play the game; if that's not 'keeping yourself from meeting the requirements', then what is? Salami?
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That is a lie.
No, it's not, because I thought it was true when I said it. It's too bad you don't understand that not all false statements are lies. Clearly, though, you wanted to, because you said you were going to, and then you said you couldn't.
You haven't proven I've done it to "keep myself from meeting the requirements". Which you can't, because I didn't.
Oh, so you "[went] out of [your] way [to] UNDO the likes [you've] given so far"...as a coincidence of some kind, and not as a protest for having the rules change? Is that your story today?
Goodness, it must be difficult to be such a crybaby.
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That is a lie.
All you've proven is that I once went out of my way to (attempt to) unlike everything I'd previously liked.
You haven't proven I've done it to "keep myself from meeting the requirements". Which you can't, because I didn't. The post you've given as "evidence", in fact, has a completely different motive in it-- something you apparently just ignored due to being a stupid idiot who can't read.
Nominated for "Must be a Lawyer" badge.
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Goodness, it must be difficult to be such a crybaby.
Not after all the practice he's had ;)
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You actively refuse to play the game; if that's not 'keeping yourself from meeting the requirements', then what is? Salami?
It's whatever has managed to convince himself it is at any given moment. This is a guy that would feel right at home in Airstrip One.
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Not after all the practice he's had
No, I don't mean it's tough to do, I mean that the resulting life you get must be tough to live.
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This thread is neither civilized nor mute. Discuss.