TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML)
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TIL:
It's an actual disorder with very good biological explanation: it's caused by hairs not being round. If the English name wasn't stupid enough, in Polish it's zespół włosów niedających się uczesać (literally "hair that are impossible to comb syndrome" - yes, this is the official medical term).
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TIL Google Sheets uses canvas to draw its table cells, which is why I couldn't find a certain value using browser search.
I thought I was going insane.
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@Zecc said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
canvas
The canvas is one of the better parts of HTML, provided you don't mind programming the silly thing in Javascript. And the idiotic way it does colours.
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@dkf And not being Ctrl+Fable, apparently
e: Come to think of it, can you Ctrl+F text in SVG?
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@hungrier said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@dkf And not being Ctrl+Fable, apparently
e: Come to think of it, can you Ctrl+F text in SVG?
Yes.
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@Zecc said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
TIL Google Sheets uses canvas to draw its table cells, which is why I couldn't find a certain value using browser search
I predicted years ago that some day websites would just be one big <canvas> and they'd run their own document rendering and layouting engine in javascript.
It's probably going to be webAssembly but aside from that I stand by my prediction.
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@Rhywden That's not exactly what I meant, but I did a bit of experimentation and so far have found that it works for inline
<svg>
s. My extensive scientific research has so far been inconclusive about svgs in an<img>
tag.
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Does not search in there (tested in Edge, Firefox, Chrome. Anyone wanna try Opera 12?)
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@anonymous234 Yeah, but that's not inline svg.
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@anonymous234 said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
(tested in Edge, Firefox, Chrome. Anyone wanna try Opera 12?)
Don't know about that one but the latest Chrome-ish Opera can't
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TIL that PSX didn't have FPU. That's why animations looked so much worse than on N64.
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TIL the actress who played Grace (Mr. Finch's tragically-separated fiancee) on Person of Interest is Michael Emerson's actual wife. Small wonder they had such good chemistry in the flashbacks involving her!
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TIL copyright law not only protects copying, but also distribution
distribution right grants to the copyright holder the exclusive right to make a work available to the public by sale, rental, lease, or lending. This right allows the copyright holder to prevent the distribution of unauthorized copies of a work
Consider this: to "make a work available to the public" you need copies of the work. You can't make those copies yourself, that would be "reproduction". So the only remaining option is obtaining the copies from someone else. But copies you obtain from someone else are explicitly not covered under this "distribution right" either thanks to the first sale doctrine (which states that after the first sale or distribution of a copy, the copyright holder can no longer control what happens to that copy). So this right seems entirely redundant?
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@anonymous234 First sale is...complicated. For example, there are different licenses for public showings of films (or other works) compared to private showings. So even if you buy a retail copy of <Disney film>, you don't have the right to have an open showing to the public of that work. And many works are never sold, per se--instead you buy a license to use a copy for a specific time. Scripts and sheet music for larger performances are handled this way. This is also the way that software licensing works--it's why you can legally acquire a copy of <software> but can't legally use it without a license, and can't at all redistribute it.
And the first sale doctrine only applies to physical copies, and only to that particular physical copy. And has limits.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
And many works are never sold, per se--instead you buy a license to use a copy for a specific time. ... This is also the way that software licensing works--it's why you can legally acquire a copy of <software> but can't legally use it without a license, and can't at all redistribute it.
That's a bunch of crap. The people doing the selling may claim that, but that's actually exactly, specifically what the First Sale Doctrine prevents. Unfortunately, the 9th Circuit failed to recognize this when it came up in a software-related case, and no other appeals court has ruled on it so we can get the Supreme Court to set things straight, so we're kind of stuck in a messy legal no-man's-land right now.
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@Mason_Wheeler first sale doctrine is entirely a judicial construct, so there really is no underlying principle other than "what the relevant court said." And so far, it's entirely cabined to physical objects.
Edit: and limited in many ways, including performance rights.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
first sale doctrine is entirely a judicial construct
Nope. It started out that way in a Supreme Court decision, but was later codified as "official" law by Congress.
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@Mason_Wheeler said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Benjamin-Hall said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
first sale doctrine is entirely a judicial construct
Nope. It started out that way in a Supreme Court decision, but was later codified as "official" law by Congress.
Noted. But that doesn't help--see the Justice Department's official word on the matter:
The first sale doctrine, codified at 17 U.S.C. § 109, provides that an individual who knowingly purchases a copy of a copyrighted work from the copyright holder receives the right to sell, display or otherwise dispose of that particular copy, notwithstanding the interests of the copyright owner. The right to distribute ends, however, once the owner has sold that particular copy. See 17 U.S.C. § 109(a) & (c). Since the first sale doctrine never protects a defendant who makes unauthorized reproductions of a copyrighted work, the first sale doctrine cannot be a successful defense in cases that allege infringing reproduction.
Further, the privileges created by the first sale principle do not "extend to any person who has acquired possession of the copy or phonorecord from the copyright owner, by rental, lease, loan, or otherwise, without acquiring ownership of it." See 17 U.S.C. § 109(d). Most computer software is distributed through the use of licensing agreements. Under this distribution system, the copyright holder remains the "owner" of all distributed copies. For this reason, alleged infringers should not be able to establish that any copies of these works have been the subject of a first sale.
Since all digital software copyright issues are ones of infringing reproduction, First Sale, as codified in 17 USC 109(d) helps not at all, and the "buy the license" thing is totally valid by current precedent and black letter law (no matter how much piracy advocates want to make it otherwise). It helps if you're redistributing physical copies of textbooks bought cheaper overseas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirtsaeng_v.John_Wiley%26_Sons,_Inc.), but not for anything digital.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Since all digital software copyright issues are ones of infringing reproduction
No they're not. Not by a long shot. There are plenty of things you can do with software that don't involve infringing copyright, which end up prohibited under EULAs. (Which is what's being discussed here. I'm not advocating infringement; I'm stating that EULAs are invalid and nonsensical.)
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@Mason_Wheeler said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Benjamin-Hall said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Since all digital software copyright issues are ones of infringing reproduction
No they're not. Not by a long shot. There are plenty of things you can do with software that don't involve infringing copyright, which end up prohibited under EULAs. (Which is what's being discussed here. I'm not advocating infringement; I'm stating that EULAs are invalid and nonsensical.)
You can believe what you want. The rest of us have to live in the real world where, unless you have really really deep pockets and a willingness to spend the next few decades in court, EULAs are totally 100% binding.
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@Benjamin-Hall "In the real world," there are plenty of bad court decisions making bad case law. Does that mean people need to just not talk about what's wrong with them and do nothing to advocate for fixing the situation? (If so, all the pro-life folks need to shut up immediately...)
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@Mason_Wheeler said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Benjamin-Hall "In the real world," there are plenty of bad court decisions making bad case law. Does that mean people need to just not talk about what's wrong with them and do nothing to advocate for fixing the situation? (If so, all the pro-life folks need to shut up immediately...)
Advocate all you want. But be clear about the is/ought distinction. At this time, what you're arguing for isn't the law, in all the ways that matter. Telling people otherwise (even if you believe it) is spreading harmful information.
All I was discussing is the is side. Copyright (and IP protections in general) should change in many many ways. But I have to deal with (and teach about) the way they are right now.
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Back on topic ( I know), TIL that there is a huge variation in canon sizes for King Kong. The original at 18', all the way up to King Kong vs Godzilla (1962), which had him at 148' (!).
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@Benjamin-Hall
I'm disappointed the Empire State Building wasn't drawn to scale.
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@Watson graphic designers can as well =)
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@Benjamin-Hall "Where the hell is Major Kong?"
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Benjamin-Hall "Where the hell is Major Kong?"
How many times have I told you no monkeying around on the airoplane!
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TIL the random buttons on TVTropes get the targets chosen on page load rather than on click.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Benjamin-Hall "Where the hell is Major Kong?"
Talking to Ground Control.
Filed under: No, that's the guy who created Dilbert.
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@Mason_Wheeler said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Applied-Mediocrity said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Benjamin-Hall "Where the hell is Major Kong?"
Talking to Ground Control.
Wasn't that Major Tom?
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@PleegWat said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Mason_Wheeler said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Applied-Mediocrity said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Benjamin-Hall "Where the hell is Major Kong?"
Talking to Ground Control.
Wasn't that Major Tom?
No, that was the book about slaves.
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@Gąska said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
TIL:
It's an actual disorder with very good biological explanation: it's caused by hairs not being round. If the English name wasn't stupid enough, in Polish it's zespół włosów niedających się uczesać (literally "hair that are impossible to comb syndrome" - yes, this is the official medical term).
Have they never heard of Groom 'n' Clean?
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@jinpa said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Gąska said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
TIL:
It's an actual disorder with very good biological explanation: it's caused by hairs not being round. If the English name wasn't stupid enough, in Polish it's zespół włosów niedających się uczesać (literally "hair that are impossible to comb syndrome" - yes, this is the official medical term).
Have they never heard of Groom 'n' Clean?
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@Vixen said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Thank you, and have a wonderfully sexy day!
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@Tsaukpaetra that's not hololens, it's a weird visualization of wmr: the beach house is still a nice enough environment.
I actually think this kind of interface makes sense in VR, where you can summon a proper desktop or any app at will - its just nice to have an environment around you.
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@hungrier there's also the up arrow button, which collapses it.
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TIL about Operation Blackcock.
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@Gąska said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
TIL about Operation Blackcock.
You sure this doesn't belong in the NSFW thread?
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@Vixen It might sound that way, but actually it was a battle in WW2, named after the way they fucked the Germans (unconfirmed)
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TIL psychedelics (LSD, psilocybin, …) are not only not addictive, but are actually useful for treating addiction to other substances that are. They don't create craving, because they don't affect that part of serotonin metabolism, and their effects diminish quickly with too frequent use, so that there is no point in being on them all the time. And they make the psychotherapy that is part of addiction treatment more effective. The article suggests that they were placed on the controlled substances list to keep hippies from becoming too even and wiseI suspect any discussions, at least of this last point, shall be directed to the garage.
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@Bulb said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
The article suggests that they were placed on the controlled substances list to keep hippies from becoming too even and wise
They're against war. Can't have that.
I suspect any discussions, at least of this last point, shall be directed to the garage.
Oh, I see, never mind.
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TIL Unicode emojis work with bold and italics:
😊
😊
😊
😊
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@Mason_Wheeler Looks like just italic on my machine, unless the bold effect is really subtle
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@hungrier They're super-subtle on my machine:
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That's why Linux is not ready for prime time yet
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@TimeBandit This is on Linux, and if it can't render all these stupid Unicode smilies correctly, that's a plus in my book.
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@Mason_Wheeler Just italics.
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@hungrier It looks like my own Windows 10.
When zooming in you might notice the lines making the eyes and mouth are thicker.