TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML)
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@pie_flavor this.
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@Gąska now post a <img> tag and nothing else.
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@pie_flavor said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Use it as a mailing list, discussion forum, long-form chat room, and more!
The "more" is a bug tracker
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@pie_flavor are you pointing out another difference between the two? Can you make absolutely empty posts in Discourse?
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@pie_flavor said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Hah! I was there for a lot of it so I know that you're more full of shit than usual. Go on, ask about "whispers."
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@pie_flavor said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Gąska What, and spam someone else's thread?
You don't have to confirm the post.
What will that accomplish?
Try it and see.
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@pie_flavor said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Does the screen recorder radically misplace the mouse cursor, or are you doing something other than clicking on the "Reply" button in the lower right corner area of the post?
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@Gąska said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
TIL why plastic screw caps have this rubber circle inside, and that peeling it off before finishing the drink isn't a good idea.
Today, @Gąska learned about gaskets. I am amused.
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@Gąska said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
TIL that Russian word for cooking ingredients is "ingredienty". I find it particulary weird because it feels like a fairly basic words, and most of basic Russian words
were stolen fromsound very similar to Polish. But not here. For whatever reason, they ignored our "składniki" and went with cyrillization of Latin.Could it be because all the sounds in "ингредиенты" are easier to pronounce than the crossed L in "składniki"?
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@pie_flavor said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Gąska now post a <img> tag and nothing else.
Sure!
a <img> tag and nothing else.
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@djls45 said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@pie_flavor said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Does the screen recorder radically misplace the mouse cursor, or are you doing something other than clicking on the "Reply" button in the lower right corner area of the post?
Yes.
Edit: and by yes I mean his shitty screen record software attempts to superimpose the cursor back into the video it captures (which does not have the mouse cursor). Poorly.
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@djls45 said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@pie_flavor said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Does the screen recorder radically misplace the mouse cursor, or are you doing something other than clicking on the "Reply" button in the lower right corner area of the post?
It's that first one.
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@djls45 said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Gąska said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
TIL that Russian word for cooking ingredients is "ingredienty". I find it particulary weird because it feels like a fairly basic words, and most of basic Russian words
were stolen fromsound very similar to Polish. But not here. For whatever reason, they ignored our "składniki" and went with cyrillization of Latin.Could it be because all the sounds in "ингредиенты" are easier to pronounce than the crossed L in "składniki"?
For Russians? It's just л, plain and simple.
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@Gąska
Vladimir Zhirinovsky discusses the status of the Russian language
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkuISzKZX3Y)
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@Applied-Mediocrity well, he's not wrong. I don't know Russian to well, though, and had to watch with English subtitles. It was interesting when he was ranting about using foreign word "army", when Russian has perfectly good word of their own: "войско" - which translates directly as "army", but the subtitles changed it to "combat groups", which is completely wrong translation. I guess it still beats having to write "why do we say army when we could say army".
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@Gąska
Oops, I didn't even think that subtitles might not make sense for this subject in particular.Anyway, "Zhirik" is not wrong, sort of, but the examples he cites are somewhat nitpicking. There are worse, in Russian and in other languages. Take Denglish. Now, I don't have any real interest in preserving German national heritage (because, well, I'm not German), but for some reason words like "heavy metal", "supermarket" and "baby" really irk me.
The other day I was watching a video in English where someone was speaking Dutch for a moment, BUT then he kept using "feedback" a lot. I can't recall on the spot what was it about... might find it later... but you get the idea.
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@Applied-Mediocrity in Poland, this sort of thing is usually associated with corporate culture. Normal people complete "zadania", corpo-rats complete "taski". Normal people have "przerwa na kawę", corpo-rats have "kofibrejk". Normal people submit "wnioski", corpo-rats submit "rikłesty". Normal people have "terminy", corpo-rats have "dedlajny". And so on.
The common language is much less influenced by English, although we use English words when no Polish counterparts exist. Most computer-related words qualify, as well as almost all music genres invented after WW2. Also, supermarkets, of course.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
speaking Dutch
oh yeah ... but it's not only English. Dutch also gladly borrows French or German. Especially in the Netherlands. Historically Flemish has objected against the Frenchification but English loan words aren't an issue. The french loan words are even considered 'Hollands' (as in Dutch like spoke in the Netherlands) something that is extra amusing to Flemish people since the average pronunciation of these French words is way off.
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Carnivorous plants have to keep their flowers well-separated from their leaves so they don't kill their pollinators :mildly_amused_face:
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Also today I saw a salt shaker with an advertised "50% less sodium." Still haven't worked out why, the packaging didn't seem to claim any ill health effects.
How, you ask?
The other half was potassium chloride.
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@kazitor I assumed the other half was just Cl-.
#doesnotknowchemistry
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@Zecc chlorine ions couldn't exist isolated like that. Even if you dissolved them in water you'd have some issues.
Actually, come to think of it, chlorine ions would surely form chlorine gas (I think, not sure about excess electrons). I wouldn't be eating that.
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@kazitor said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Actually, come to think of it, chlorine ions would surely form chlorine gas (I think, not sure about excess electrons). I wouldn't be eating that.
I always heard it's breathtaking.
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@JBert said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@kazitor said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Actually, come to think of it, chlorine ions would surely form chlorine gas (I think, not sure about excess electrons). I wouldn't be eating that.
I always heard it's breathtaking.
I once accidentally breathed in a bit of HCl vapor (concentrated HCl will fume if opened to the air). That was unpleasant.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@JBert said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@kazitor said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Actually, come to think of it, chlorine ions would surely form chlorine gas (I think, not sure about excess electrons). I wouldn't be eating that.
I always heard it's breathtaking.
I once accidentally breathed in a bit of HCl vapor (concentrated HCl will fume if opened to the air). That was unpleasant.
Me too. When I was in Chem Lab in college. I kept asking the TA, how bad is this for me?
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@Karla said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Benjamin-Hall said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@JBert said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@kazitor said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Actually, come to think of it, chlorine ions would surely form chlorine gas (I think, not sure about excess electrons). I wouldn't be eating that.
I always heard it's breathtaking.
I once accidentally breathed in a bit of HCl vapor (concentrated HCl will fume if opened to the air). That was unpleasant.
Me too. When I was in Chem Lab in college. I kept asking the TA, how bad is this for me?
Some damn fool managed to clear our lab by evolving some of that outside the fume hood, unless I'm remembering wrong and it was something even worse.
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@kazitor said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
chlorine ions couldn't exist isolated like that
They'd not stay together because of the net electrical charges, not unless you've got a plasma or something else exotic.
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@kazitor said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Also today I saw a salt shaker with an advertised "50% less sodium." Still haven't worked out why, the packaging didn't seem to claim any ill health effects.
How, you ask?
The other half was potassium chloride.People with high blood pressure are sometimes placed on low sodium diets.
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@kazitor said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Zecc chlorine ions couldn't exist isolated like that. Even if you dissolved them in water you'd have some issues.
When salt dissolves in water, it dissociates into Na+ and Cl- ions. If you remove the water (evaporation), they recombine to form NaCl again.
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@anotherusername said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@kazitor said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Also today I saw a salt shaker with an advertised "50% less sodium." Still haven't worked out why, the packaging didn't seem to claim any ill health effects.
How, you ask?
The other half was potassium chloride.People with high blood pressure are sometimes placed on low sodium diets.
Except I ruled out medical reasons because, if I recall correctly, the package had a warning about not necessarily being suitable for people who need less sodium. Like how a lot of "gluten-free" stuff might not be good for people who can't have gluten.
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@kazitor I think they just do that because people are idiots, and if the label said "great for people with heart conditions! seriously, go right ahead and use this less-salty-salt!", people would dump it on and then come back and sue the company when they had a heart attack.
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@anotherusername Probably.
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@kazitor said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Like how a lot of "gluten-free" stuff might not be good for people who can't have gluten.
I'm not sure what you're referring to. Sugar and lard are both gluten-free, and consuming large amounts of either "might not be good for people who can't have gluten," but they "might not be good for people," period; nothing to do with gluten. Any "gluten-free" food might not actually be gluten-free, because it was contaminated during preparation or serving (although having a completely gluten-free kitchen makes that very unlikely; it can be a serious problem at restaurants). If you meant something else, please clarify.
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@HardwareGeek said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Any "gluten-free" food might not actually be gluten-free, because it was contaminated during preparation or serving
That. I've heard that, with the rising popularity of gluten-free food, it's harder to get properly-decontaminated things.
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Chitin is a polymer and not a protein.
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@kazitor said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Chitin is a polymer and not a protein.
um. you mean it lacks peptide bonds?
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@Gribnit I mean it's not a large macromolecule consisting of long chains of amino acid residues.
But yes, I think that too?
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@kazitor said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Gribnit I mean it's not a large macromolecule consisting of long chains of amino acid residues.
But yes, I think that too?
it's a starch. neat.
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@Gribnit huh. TIL what a starch is.
edit: or not. Looks like starch refers to a specific compound, and chitin is only superficially similar.
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@kazitor said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Gribnit huh. TIL what a starch is.
edit: or not. Looks like starch refers to a specific compound, and chitin is only superficially similar.
Fair enough, I tend to lump all polysaccharides as starches.
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@Gribnit
At least you're not taking paracetamol or aspirin and saying you've been drinking aromatic hydrocarbons... or do you?
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@Applied-Mediocrity no. not even if I was drinking nyquil. don't remember if those are indoles? probably not even then. But if I was drinking phenol, I still wouldn't, because I would be being ill.
I do, however, consider it appropriate to call drinking coffee drinking pesticide, and smoking a cigarette to be smoking pesticide, and to call all polysaccharides starches. Even if they're structural. Fuckit.
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@Gribnit said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
But if I was drinking phenol, I still wouldn't, because I would be being ill.
Or having a good Islay single malt.
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TIL the "Visual C++ Redistributables" are not, strictly speaking, redistributable. You get permission from the Visual Studio license to redistribute the copy you get from your Visual Studio folders with any applications you produce with them. So redistributing it by itself is technically illegal.
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@anonymous234 So when I have downloaded them directly from Microsoft, does that mean Microsoft has been breaking the law by providing standalone downloads for them?
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@Atazhaia You generally don't need your own permission to distribute your own stuff.
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@anonymous234 I was just being . But if I apply swedish bureaucracy rules to it, then I'm sure there would be explicit permission needed to distribute your own stuff...
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@anotherusername said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@kazitor said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Also today I saw a salt shaker with an advertised "50% less sodium." Still haven't worked out why, the packaging didn't seem to claim any ill health effects.
How, you ask?
The other half was potassium chloride.People with high blood pressure are sometimes placed on low sodium diets.
I knew an older lady whose doctor had told her to avoid sodium, so she did so. Religiously. If there was any sodium in the food, she wouldn't eat it. She became somewhat listless, could hardly concentrate on anything, couldn't remember things (sometimes that had just happened), zoned out frequently, and had trouble performing various activities with which she formerly hadn't had any issues. Basically, it seemed like she had had a stroke, and her mind just wasn't all there.
A mutual friend of ours (a retired nurse) eventually convinced her to go to the hospital, where they found that she had a critical lack of sodium. They hooked her up with a saline IV, and she very quickly regained most of her cognitive functions. Some damage had already been done, though, so she never quite got back to 100%.
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@Gribnit said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@kazitor said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Chitin is a polymer and not a protein.
um. you mean it lacks peptide bonds?
Proteins are polymer chains of amino acids. Chitin is a polymer of N-acetylglucosamine. N-acetylglucosamine is a derivative of glucose, and does not fit the definition of an amino acid.
@Gribnit said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
it's a starch.
It is a complex carbohydrate (polysaccharide), which makes it similar to a starch. However, starch is a polymer chain of glucose. So chitin is not truly a starch, unless you are using "starch" generally to refer to any complex carbohydrate.
It is more similar to cellulose than it is to starch, by nature of the fact that it, like cellulose, is basically indigestible to humans. Cellulose is also a polymer chain of another glucose-derivative, D-glucose (also known as dextrose).
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@anotherusername yeah, I use starch to refer to any complex carbohydrate, although it's rather wildly inappropriate for structural ones. As soon as that bug has a test I'll fix it.
I was actually surprised to find out the monomer was a sugar.
Wonder if "animal fiber" would fly.