The minor rants thread.
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@FrostCat Ooo, ooo, now justify why it draws font size 14 at size 16.5-ish. And font size 12 at 14-ish.
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@blakeyrat said in The minor rants thread.:
Ooo, ooo, now justify why it draws font size1
Probably to annoy you. I'd've thought that was your default assumption after "incompetence".
I like that you've learned how to deflect to avoid admissions of wrongness, though, rather than just abandoning thread. It gives me hope you'll someday actually be capable of admitting to being wrong.
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@blakeyrat said in The minor rants thread.:
why it draws font size 14 at size 16.5-ish. And font size 12 at 14-ish.
Seems like an odd bug. Someone who wanted the product he used to work better might file a bug report.
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@FrostCat If he couldn't bother to get font rendering right, I'm sure the only thing a bug report would be met by would be grunts and whistles.
Anyway, I know the bug: the app is calculating the size based on a DPI of 72, which Windows has never used, instead of the correct DPI of 96, which Windows has always used. Except on the Font selection dialog, where it does it correctly. HOW DO YOU NOT NOTICE THAT!?
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@blakeyrat said in The minor rants thread.:
HOW DO YOU NOT NOTICE THAT!?
Cross-platform toolkit would be my first guess.
Looks like Macs (used to?) use 72dpi. No idea if there's a connection.
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@FrostCat said in The minor rants thread.:
Cross-platform toolkit would be my first guess.
Looks like it's actually MFC/ATL.
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@blakeyrat said in The minor rants thread.:
Ooo, ooo, now justify why it draws font size 14 at size 16.5-ish. And font size 12 at 14-ish.
Some sort of .Net hijinks? DPI shenanigans?
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@blakeyrat said in The minor rants thread.:
@boomzilla said in The minor rants thread.:
I use keepass and I often copy the old password down into the notes until I'm sure it's correctly updated.
They want me to use Keepass at work. I told them I wouldn't until I could set the font size bigger than 4.
"Here's a string of 57 randomly-generated digits. The font is ant-sized. Good fucking luck reading them. No, there isn't a font size setting in Options, why would there be? It's all open source-y! Nobody gives a shit about usability here!"
In other words: It's not DPI-aware?
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@blakeyrat said in The minor rants thread.:
It turns out the "Change Font" button actually allows you to select a SIZE as well.
I would assume you'd know about the standard Font picker that's existed since... Windows 3.1 I think?
That's how changing fonts was done in the beginning: there wasn't a spiffy toolbar or nothing like that at all!Edit:
Perhaps I should refrain from replying to threads on mobile until I've reached the end...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The minor rants thread.:
I would assume you'd know about the standard Font picker that's existed since... Windows 3.1 I think?
I haven't used Windows 3.1 in a long, long time.
... actually I'm not sure I've ever used Windows 3.1.
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@blakeyrat said in The minor rants thread.:
@Tsaukpaetra said in The minor rants thread.:
I would assume you'd know about the standard Font picker that's existed since... Windows 3.1 I think?
I haven't used Windows 3.1 in a long, long time.
... actually I'm not sure I've ever used Windows 3.1.
Have you used their successors? FFS the point I was trying to make is that nothing's changed since then, not that you needed to have used something that old to know about it!
Edit: Case in point: Can you tell the difference between one OS from decades ago versus a month ago?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The minor rants thread.:
Edit: Case in point: Can you tell the difference between one OS from decades ago versus a month ago?
the buttons moved up to the side and the dialog got shorter in the new one.
other than that..... no changes.
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@accalia said in The minor rants thread.:
@Tsaukpaetra said in The minor rants thread.:
Edit: Case in point: Can you tell the difference between one OS from decades ago versus a month ago?
the buttons moved up to the side and the dialog got shorter in the new one.
other than that..... no changes.
They also moved the close button to the left! :D
Actually, I think I need to get a 3.11 theme for my computer now, it almost looks more.. refined than ModernUI...
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@blakeyrat said in The minor rants thread.:
Which I believe still doesn't have a real debugger
It works with GDB and delve.
@blakeyrat said in The minor rants thread.:
just one that requires special compiler hooks to compile-in debugger stuffs in your code
That'd be the profiler you're thinking of. Does your language of choice compile with profiling enabled by default?
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@boomzilla said in The minor rants thread.:
Some sort of .Net hijinks? DPI shenanigans?
Depends on if Blakey's "using" version 1 or 2 of the app. 2 is .Net; 1 is plain C++/MFC, so .Net hijinks wouldn't apply.
I skimmed the code a little bit and saw nothing out of the ordinary, so I dunno.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The minor rants thread.:
In other words: It's not DPI-aware?
Even if that were the case, KeePass allows copy/paste, so you could at minimum paste into Notepad or something, so the text is readable.
Of course, applying any kind of workaround is beyond some people--easier to just complain.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The minor rants thread.:
Perhaps I should refrain from replying to threads on mobile until I've reached the end
Crazy talk!
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@blakeyrat said in The minor rants thread.:
I haven't used Windows 3.1 in a long, long time.
What about Win95? That's the earliest version of Windows I could find a reference to the common dialogs.
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@accalia said in The minor rants thread.:
the buttons moved up to the side and the dialog got shorter in the new one.
snort.
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@accalia said in The minor rants thread.:
other than that..... no changes.
and the close one got move to the left of the title bar ...
Microsoft ... always re-painting the
bikeshedwindows
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@Luhmann said in The minor rants thread.:
@accalia said in The minor rants thread.:
other than that..... no changes.
and the close one got move to the left of the title bar ...
Microsoft ... always re-painting the
bikeshedwindows@Tsaukpaetra said in The minor rants thread.:
They also moved the close button to the left!
Oye! :P
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@Tsaukpaetra No. They look identical to me.
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@blakeyrat said in The minor rants thread.:
@Tsaukpaetra No. They look identical to me.
Great! Then, my point that something hasn't changed since forever still stands.
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@blakeyrat said in The minor rants thread.:
They look identical to me.
Topologically speaking, they are.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The minor rants thread.:
Case in point: Can you tell the difference between one OS from decades ago versus a month ago?
Yes I can, but only because I used Windows 3.1 and I still get nostalgic for that UI at times.
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@svieira said in The minor rants thread.:
@Tsaukpaetra said in The minor rants thread.:
Case in point: Can you tell the difference between one OS from decades ago versus a month ago?
Yes I can, but only because I used Windows 3.1 and I still get nostalgic for that UI at times.
Well they're bringing it back, only in HD Blu-ray ๐ฟ !!
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@blakeyrat said in The minor rants thread.:
I'm not sure I've ever used Windows 3.1.
I did!
...I was 8.
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I think I had one friend who had it, we used it to play Indiana Jones Desktop Adventures IIRC. Everybody else I knew was either a C64/Mac family (like mine) or skipped from DOS to Windows 95 directly.
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@Yamikuronue My grandparents had it, with the old Best of Entertainment pack, so I'd play Chip's Challenge on it and such. Then we got my uncle's old win95 PC and things got better.
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@blakeyrat said in The minor rants thread.:
I actually found how to change the font size. It turns out the "Change Font" button actually allows you to select a SIZE as well. (Quick: tell me I'm an idiot for not intuitively knowing that!)
That seems pretty standard to me. Not intuitive, but widespread enough that you would expect someone experienced enough in computers to be using Keepass, to know to look there.
@blakeyrat said in The minor rants thread.:
Ooo, ooo, now justify why it draws font size 14 at size 16.5-ish. And font size 12 at 14-ish.
Browser zoom? Have you tried making it 3px larger? Other troll statements
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@Yamikuronue My primary school had some 3.1 PCs. I think the computer lab in my secondary school was 3.1 when I first started in '97. There were 20 odd 386 PCs, and 2 486s which everyone tried to get in first to use, because they let you get logged in in less than half the lesson
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@blakeyrat said in The minor rants thread.:
skipped from DOS to Windows 95 directly
They might've had Win3.1 installed on DOS but didn't run it; Win95 was the first version where you started out in the UI (and it pissed a lot of people off at the time, IIRC). But 3.1 was better than 3.0, and the versions before 3.0 were of the โwell why would you actually choose to run that?โ level of usability, especially with 8086-based systems (as opposed to those swanky types with their 80286s!)
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@dkf said in The minor rants thread.:
Win95 was the first version where you started out in the UI
You could do that with Win 3.x as well ... just add it in the autoexec.bat ...
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@Luhmann Nobody I knew was mad enough to do that.
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@dkf
I made autoexec.bat start a custom menu.bat ... I bet there was a Windows option in there ...
The reason you didn't start windows automatically in those day probably had more to do with games and memory management then anything else
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@Luhmann said in The minor rants thread.:
probably
Not probably. Definitely. There was an art to persuading all the driver TSRs to get out of low memory so that you could run a big game.
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@dkf DOS=HIGH
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE
DEVICEHIGH=WHATEVERsomething like this
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@clippy said in The minor rants thread.:
something like this
Yes, but you had to put things in the right order or they wouldn't work. Some drivers were really quite fussy. It depended on what hardware you had, really. Network cards were notorious for causing problems, and some of the sound cards that emulated a lot on the CPU were pretty bad too. I'm actually pretty glad that that particular swamp was drained and paved over long ago.
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@Luhmann said in The minor rants thread.:
@dkf
I made autoexec.bat start a custom menu.bat ... I bet there was a Windows option in there ...
The reason you didn't start windows automatically in those day probably had more to do with games and memory management then anything elsewhen I was bringing in my laptop in High School, the autoexec.bat menu had option for "edit.com, windows 95" because Win95 took about 45 seconds to load up everything while edit.com needed almost none.
I kinda wish I had kept that thing, the fun times we had together...
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@blakeyrat you can double click the field and it puts the password in your clipboard
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Project has an impossible tight deadline. Person responsible for specifying all the things gone out on vacation without specifying anything. Now I'm doing stuff by trial and error, and begging for people not commited to the project for information, knowing that it will end with a blame fest.
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You know how to make your website great? Have a Twitter feed nobody gives a shit about covering half the screen that can't be fucking closed!
Morons, morons everywhere.
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NY Strip Steak: Overrated cut of meat or most overrated cut of meat?
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@boomzilla Not the most overrated. I've had a Kobe Beef Hot Dog before.
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@Yamikuronue said in The minor rants thread.:
I've had a Kobe Beef Hot Dog before.
Unless you were in Japan, you mean "Kobe Beef" hot dog. Until recently you couldn't get real Kobe beef in the US at all. Even now, it's so wildly rare, that really there's like two restaurants you can get it at and that's it, or something.
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@boomzilla said in The minor rants thread.:
NY Strip Steak: Overrated cut of meat or most overrated cut of meat?
It's OK by me, though I prefer ribeye.
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@antiquarian said in The minor rants thread.:
It's OK by me, though I prefer ribeye.
Ribeye is the best. The NY strip always has some awful parts, and overall they're not very tender and there's very little marbling. I only buy them when they're on sale. They're normally about $11/pound here and the store had them on for about $6. Same store sells ribeyes for $12/lb.
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@boomzilla Is there a difference between a "NY strip" and a "NY cut"?
The "NY cut" my grocery store has is pretty quality meat. You have to trim the fat around the edges, but no biggie.
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@blakeyrat Probably the same, but I don't think I've seen it called that.