Trainwrecks. Watch them? Prevent them?
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Have a poll:
https://meta.discourse.org/t/poll-heatmaps-in-the-topic-list-an-analysis/18877
Currently:
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+1 on the yellows from me
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Yep, one of those 10 is mine.
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Also interesting, even though the OP explicitly solicits discussion, people are only voting.
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I don't have an account over there, but if I did, I would also vote with the herd.
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Every one in the UX field knows you should never give meaning to colors, because no one has the same ideas about them, and because it will handicap the colorblinds…
Discourse…
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I hadn't even noticed the colors.
I think it could be a good idea if improved. Maybe leave most threads gray, give the ones you want to highlight a slightly greener background.
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Maybe leave most threads gray, give the ones you want to highlight a slightly greener background.
Ah, here's the rub. Which ones do you want to highlight and why? If you're Jeff, you can't even articulate which and why. There are proposals floating around on meta.d, but really it's people taking a "solution" and trying to find a problem. Again.
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I think the colour should be the average hue of all of the avatars in the topic. That way, if I want to make the background greener, I can add lots of my valuable posts to the relevant topic.
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You need a meta.d account.
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Then people would be like "wow, that topic is really green, Keith must have made many valuable contributions to this topic, I will visit it post-haste!"
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Oh, wonderful. The stupid heatmap coloring system is also now on mobile.
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On the plus side, I'm not sure exactly what they did with the stupid blue for activity on old threads, but it's way less obvious.
Subtle stupid > Glaring stupid.
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Actual heatmaps? Or whatever the fuck Atwood seems to think a "heatmap" is?
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Yeah, not really a heatmap, but coloring numbers to signify something or other.
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Yes.
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Atwood is a prime example of how if your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as nails. He is a cargo-cult programmer, who paradoxically has written a lot about the evils of such a thing.
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Put me on the "color blind, so I don't even notice the "heat maps" until they are explicitly pointed out to me.
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I'm not colorblind at all, but I also don't consciously register colors either, so heatmaps are pretty worthless to me unless I know that's what they are.
Not sure if the first part of that makes sense to anyone else, but as an example if the boss shows up at work in bright orange pants I'm not likely to notice or think anything of it unless someone tells me about it. It's not that I don't see the color, I just don't think about it.
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Bah, but who are we to question it? Just a bunch of lowly programmers, DBAs, sysadmins and hackers in general. What the fuck do we know about software?
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That's what makes it so funny.
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Bah, but who are we to question it? Just a bunch of lowly programmers, DBAs, sysadmins and hackers in general. What the fuck do we know about software?
But we're all so now - Jeff's all about software in the future.
Filed under: Or something like that
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But we're all so now - Jeff's all about software in the future.
Actually, I like using the CLI for some stuff. So I'm actually so 80s. I should probably leave tbh, since I can't communicate in fluent lolcat.
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Future events, such as these, will affect you IN THE FUTURE.
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Future events, such as these, will affect you IN THE FUTURE.
Normally that'd be Future-Me's problem, but Discourse affects me now.
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Best movie ever.
Did you know Criswell Predicts was a legit TV show at one point? Can you imagine watching that guy for a half hour? Goddamned, that must have been amazing.
Just his hair alone.
EDIT: from Wiki:
In it, he claimed that Denver would be struck by a ray from space that would cause all metal to adopt the qualities of rubber, leading to horrific accidents at amusement parks.
Goddamned, that man is my hero.
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Really? Aw, I am sorry I missed that, because Criswell was awesome.
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It was in 1953. How the fuck old are you?
I'm looking to see if any episodes were taped, but a non-syndicated local TV show from 1953-- not likely.
EDIT: his books and spoken word album are available, but the TV show is lost forever.
The cruelest quirk of fate for fans of cheesy schlock was that the video camera was invented and perfected so long before video tape made it possible to preserve.
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I'm not that old, but I still would have liked to have seen it and it makes me sad that I probably can't. I am a relatively simple person.
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It's possible to make heat map colourings that work even if you're colour blind, as that doesn't prevent people from distinguishing light intensities, just from telling colours apart.
To put it simply: you have to make the colours describe a linear trajectory in HSV space — while maintaining sufficient contrast with your non-varying foreground or background — with at least two coordinates varying between each sample point. (This is, of course, not really correct, but working with the CIE spaces is very annoying.) Like that, even if someone can't see the difference in colours like you would, they can still see that something is changing. (It used to be easy to make programs run in greyscale mode by forcing them to use the right kind of visual, making testing this sort of thing much easier, but that's much less supported these days than it used to be due to the otherwise-laudable triumph of true full-colour displays.)
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While this is, indeed, true, it doesn't make Jeff's "coldmaps" any kind of good idea. Even by itself it's, frankly, impossible to understand without some serious explanation; combined with the fact Discourse already uses colour elsewhere on the same page, for a different purpose and with different mappings...
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Yeah, not really a heatmap, but coloring numbers to signify something or other.
So now you are explaining things to @blakeyrat... hmmm... we do this regularly with a well-known figure from meta.d... too early for a new acronym, but I'll watch it.Filed under: bookmarked post for future reference.
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Ok, added my vote as well (no change of the prevailing mood, unsurprisingly).
But what really got me: the poll has been posted at August 15, 7 p.m. EST approximately, More than 24 hrs ago.
And yet there is no reply to that poll???
Discourse: fostering good discourse on the internet since 2013!
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Added my vote (to the prevailing mood of "would do differently").
And yet there is no reply to that poll???
Other than yours, no. Possibly people on meta.d are afraid of being Jefficated on...
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I'm not colorblind at all, but I also don't consciously register colors either, so heatmaps are pretty worthless to me unless I know that's what they are.
Sometimes. But...brighter colors still draw my eye, especially in an environment like a web page, where I expect thinks like links to stand out, so I'm already looking for them. But also, if a column of numbers has glaringly different colors, I'm likely to notice the difference and wonder what's going on there.
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Even by itself it's, frankly, impossible to understand without some serious explanation; combined with the fact Discourse already uses colour elsewhere on the same page, for a different purpose and with different mappings...
Jeff hopes we're all just smart enough to figure it out.
https://meta.discourse.org/t/consolidating-activity-field/18827/73?u=boomzilla
Filed Under: fffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
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the title has been fixed.
you're welcome discourse.
I am now a leader, THE MONSTER HAS BEEN UNLEASHED!
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o_O
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I
am now ahave become leader, THEMONSTER HAS BEEN UNLEASHEDCHANGER OF TITLES!FTFY
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*me grabs the mike, gets the red handkerchief, white frilly shirt*
The monster's loose
So now you have to choose
Tell me can you feel it
As you hit the wall
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I will hit no wall.
I will hit only
dat ass
Filed Under: Heavily implying I will have penetrative rectal intercourse with @Arantor and/or @PJH
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And I would do anything for love
I would do anything for love
I would do anything for love
But I won't do that
No I won't do that
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Meatloaf, a little fuzzy on the concept of "anything".
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Are we pedantically dickweeding songs now? That could be fun! Who wants to start the thread?
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Are we pedantically dickweeding songs now? That could be fun! Who wants to start the thread?
No Alanis Morrisette or Avril Lavigne. They are just too easy.