Spend $1,500 to save $150
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As long as you don't turn it into visio ...
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I don't understand why spending $1500 to save $150 is a WTF in itself. Isn't the alternative spending $1650 to save $0?
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OmniGiraffe seems to be an Apple thing. So that's only for the c00l kids
I quite like it. It's really not as terribad as Visio, even on fruit paddery.
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I don't understand why spending $1500 to save $150 is a WTF in itself. Isn't the alternative spending $1650 to save $0?
Well, in this case he was in the hole ~$1350, because the quality solution was "too expensive".
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It-just-works™. I've had major issues trying to get two switches from other major names to simply talk spanning-tree to each other without failing miserably.
The interfaces are quite nice too. The web based stuff generally just works which is a novelty and the CLI is quite straightforward and works well. The SBSC people are pretty good as well.
It does help if you're specifying their kit with someone else's money though.
Edit: It also carries on working too...for ever. I've only had a couple of GBICs fail so far, everything else has been replaced due to obsolescence.
I hear that all the time. TBH, I have never had a Netgear switch fail or lock. The upper layer switches of theirs that I have had in the datacenter have spent their entire life without a reboot. From the time they were plugged in, until the time we decommissioned them they were never touched.
Cisco may be "more reliable", but the Netgear kit that I have used has been completely solid and reliable. It is also a fraction of the price. I think more Cisco kit if bought on sheer marketing hype and FUD than for any other reason.
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Maybe we should fund a project to make a new programming language that will replace C and C++. We shall call it Stop. (Because it will stop people making classic memory allocation and use-after-free mistakes of course.)
Great idea, and one that has never been tried before.
Filed under: But this time it will really work
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All I know about Cisco is their CCNA system is a racket and configuring their hardware makes me feel like I'm living in the 1980's. Netgear and HP switches give you a nice, easy, modern web UI and Cisco requires binders and binders of command-line documentation.
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Great idea, and one that has never been tried before.
Filed under: But this time it will really work
Paging @ben_lubar, @ben_lubar to the topic please.
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Hello.
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Glad you're here Ben, we need you to pimp out Go for our amusement.
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I think it would be even more entertaining if we paged @nagesh to pimp Go for us.
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I think it would be even more entertaining if we paged @nagesh to pimp Go for us.
Where is he? I haven't seen him lately. It's like we scared him off.
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I just pictured an Indian fellow, in full pimp garb, with broken English.
In my defense, formal Indian attire kind of looks like pimp clothes.
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I know an ISP that switched from Cisco to (bounds and leaps cheaper) Mikrotik.
All the admins I talked to are delighted both because they got rid of Cisco and because they can use Mikrotik's GUI.
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Really? I had a client that bought Mikrotik and they seemed like they took all of the bad elements of Cisco interface, and then added their own layers of bad ideas. They have the horrible convention of having to both forward ports, and open those ports in the firewall. If you forward a port, it should open that port to be forwarded. That should not be a separate step.
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No idea. Talking second hand here. I'm not much of a network guy, I leave that to others.
Probably for the best, since there's this weird tendency of me configuring something correctly, confirming with someone else it's all correct, and then it doesn't work. But if anyone else comes after me and makes an inconsequential change (like changing the IP on one of the machines, which was not in conflict anyway) it all magically springs to life.
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To each their own. As long as it is not Cisco. ;)
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This sounds like a great idea in theory.
One minor drawback though: Mikrotik stuff doesn't fucking work - it's incredibly broken shit.
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Saw loads of them around. Have one at home (working only as a dumb switch though, I just needed some extra ports and happened to get into possession of one), never saw / heard complaints.
Meh, YMMV I guess.
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If you started a Kickstarter with the title of "Breaking Discourse, please ignore" I'm sure you'd still get backers.
This sounds like an AMAZING project for me.
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I'm not smart enough to design a language to be honest.
Nearly everyone who tries to design a new language is in the same boat. It's something that many students of CS try and fail at, miserably. You have the advantage of having had some exposure to real programming first. As long as you include some way to run arbitrary code in the host environment — which means to have a way to call general C functions, or Java code inside the JVM, or C# code inside the CLR — then you'll be OK. (You don't want to have to waste time on building up a standard library from scratch.)
Writing a fast programming language is much harder. Writing one that gets widespread adoption is much harder than that.
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A friend bought a Linksys/Cisco box for their ADSL modem/router and was constantly complaining about it. Constantly dropping the line and rebooting. Don't know if it was faulty or just made like that but I burnt my finger on the main soc with it's tiny heatsink before throwing it across the room, braking the facia and eventually chucking it in the bin. Dug out a BT "HomeHub", reflashed it to make it work on their ISP and it's still working
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I'm not smart enough to design a language to be honest.
But you know that you're not smart enough to design a language. That makes you smarter than 90% of the people who design languages.
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But you know that you're not smart enough to design a language. That makes you smarter than 90% of the people who design languages.
I'll take that. I will never inflict a PHP-like on the world.
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If you're paying more than $3 for a patch cable under 25ft (which I assume you'll do when buying Belkin) [you're doing it wrong][1]
[1]: http://www.monoprice.com/Category?c_id=105&cp_id=10208
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I liked Linksys when you could do this:
All stacked and neat. They even made a NAS in this formfactor.
Now my network closet is a jumbled mess. I've a ASUS-N56U used as an AP, and a WRT160N used as one edge gateway.
Sure they look "pretty" (personally can't stand how they look), but they can't stack, and mount awkwardly.
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From what I understand you inflict php on the world every day.
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What the hell were you doing that you bought enough of those to stack?
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If you're paying more than $3 for a patch cable under 25ft (which I assume you'll do when buying Belkin) you're doing it wrong
Speaking of doing it wrong, why is your name not DJ_JazzyJosh?
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Obelisk is certainly a different form-factor for networking equipment.
I have a Virgin Media 'HomeHub' which, apart from being an unstable piece of rubbish, has a blue LED like a searchlight on it. I had to put tape over the damn thing in the end.
I prefer 19" rack format. Then it's all neat and the cat can't sleep on it.
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Honestly, I had never heard of DJ Jazzy Jeff prior to coming up with this username.
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Honestly, I had never heard of DJ Jazzy Jeff prior to coming up with this username.
Damn kids.
Get off my lawn!
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Unless you'd never heard of him because you're so old as to not have noticed anything happening in the 90s.... in which case, I'll get off your lawn.
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Unless you'd never heard of him because you're so old as to not have noticed anything happening in the 90s.... in which case, I'll get off your lawn.
Or help him to hobble off yours.
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Unless you'd never heard of him because you're so old as to not have noticed anything happening in the
90s80s.... in which case, I'll get off your lawn.FTFY
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FTFY
If we're getting pedantic, it's more like mid 80s through 00s if you check his Discography.
Though if you had not heard of him by the end of the 80s, you probably weren't going to learn about him later.
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Unless you'd never heard of him because you're so old as to not have noticed anything happening in the 90s.... in which case, I'll get off your lawn.
I'm old enough to remember the 90s but I have NFI what you're on about. I blame it on being British.
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You know what, maybe I don't want to wait 24 hours to have a shitpost removed.
I have no idea what was going on in the early 90s.
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You should turn on edit history.
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Not mine, but if you notice there's actually different four devices there: a cable modem, a router, 16 port switch and WAP.
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router...wap.
Yeah.
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Is the top one a WAP54G? I have one of those I use to annoy the neighbours with messages. It has no security but is generally not connected to anything, so no risk.
