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@HardwareGeek ambulance club, ambulance subscription, whatever. You pay $50 a year and then if you need an ambulance it's mostly covered instead of costing a thousand bucks.
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@Zenith I've never heard of that, although I have heard of locations that have something like that for fire protection. If your house catches fire, they'll rescue you from the burning house, if necessary, and they try to keep it from spreading to your neighbors' houses, but they'll make no attempt to extinguish the flames if you haven't paid your dues. For ambulance, that's covered by my insurance, if it's medically necessary.
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@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:
A very enthusiastic from me.I think I may have achieved obscurity with mine.
I guess with enough "This mailbox doesn't exist" auto-replies even the spammers give up...
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@loopback0 said in The Official Status Thread:
I have no idea if Microsoft are any better at not locking people out of their accounts or not noseying through your emails.
I'm quite confident Microsoft isn't as good and noseying through emails, even if they try.
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@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:
Iâve had more downtime with gmail than Iâve had with outlook.
Me too.
But I think you actually use Outlook.
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@Gustav said in The Official Status Thread:
You're fighting Lovecraftian horrors of technology day in, day out, for years - maybe decades. And you're saying you're scared of setting up an email server?
Yes? We call that "experience".
I haven't setup an email server myself, but I hear it's not the easiest thing to do right.
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@Gustav said in The Official Status Thread:
lose unlimited data (inb4 Europeans: data limit on wired internet? ).
Yes. I opted for that: 100 GB per month. A couple of weeks ago, my provider proudly announced that the data cap would now be removed, na dhow much better that would be for me.
Phhhfffffttt.
Last month's usage was 26 GB.
would I need unlimited data?
Are you watching hi-reseducational videos
all time?
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@Gustav said in The Official Status Thread:
@topspin said in The Official Status Thread:
yahoo
Aren't they in the process of bankruptcy?
Not at present. They're owned by a private equity firm who has been slowly selling off or shutting down various bits of it, as private equity firms do.
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@BernieTheBernie said in The Official Status Thread:
Are you watching hi-res
educational videos
all time?Vidyagams
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@Zecc said in The Official Status Thread:
@Gustav said in The Official Status Thread:
You're fighting Lovecraftian horrors of technology day in, day out, for years - maybe decades. And you're saying you're scared of setting up an email server?
Yes? We call that "experience".
I haven't setup an email server myself, but I hear it's not the easiest thing to do right.
Plus once it's setup you've got to keep it maintained.
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@loopback0 said in The Official Status Thread:
Is there any other provider with even close to the amount of users as Gmail?
Office365 perhaps. They have a lot of corporate use.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:
Iâve had more downtime with gmail than Iâve had with outlook. itâs been a few years though. I remember more aws outages to be fair.
status it shockingly hard to find a dual sim phone that supports lineage os for under âŹ150.
You can have mine. It's banned from VoLTE on AT&T though, ymmv.
Does it come with mystery fluids?
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@Gustav said in The Official Status Thread:
There's literally nothing I, or you, or anyone else on this forum could possibly do to change it even the tiniest bit.
There is, which is to use a less shitty email provider. Any.
Which is a tad hypocritical of me, as I said myself I haven't yet managed to migrate off of it, it's a bunch of work. But at least I'm not saying Gmail is good advice.@topspin said in The Official Status Thread:
Sorry, but I can't even begin to describe how ridiculous this "alternative" sounds to me.
I don't have the expertise to configure that, nor the time to do it, or the time to learn how to do it without getting paid for it.Now you're just whining. You're an IT professional (I presume). You're fighting Lovecraftian horrors of technology day in, day out, for years - maybe decades. And you're saying you're scared of setting up an email server?
Kind of, I guess?
I got a CS degree and program desktop / console applications. Shit to do with PDEs and process simulations, and a touch of 3D stuff. I have never touched web shit and I'm not a network person. It is not whining to admit that I have no expertise in running a mail server, and it's just a fact of life that most every ordinary person doesn't either.I also doubt it's time well spent if you're not already an expert. If and only if you know what you're doing, it's probably pretty easy. I'd rather spend 3 bucks on a functional mail service than spending x bucks on domain registration, y bucks on a cloud server, and who knows how long setting up and debugging that thing. Because I know there'll be mistakes to iron out the first few rounds.
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@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:
@Zenith I've never heard of that, although I have heard of locations that have something like that for fire protection. If your house catches fire, they'll rescue you from the burning house, if necessary, and they try to keep it from spreading to your neighbors' houses, but they'll make no attempt to extinguish the flames if you haven't paid your dues. For ambulance, that's covered by my insurance, if it's medically necessary.
That sounds like a protection racket with extra steps.
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@topspin said in The Official Status Thread:
That sounds like a protection racket with extra steps.
That's why the fire brigade is a public service in so many places; private fire brigades are extremely close to protection rackets at best.
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@loopback0 said in The Official Status Thread:
@Zecc said in The Official Status Thread:
@Gustav said in The Official Status Thread:
You're fighting Lovecraftian horrors of technology day in, day out, for years - maybe decades. And you're saying you're scared of setting up an email server?
Yes? We call that "experience".
I haven't setup an email server myself, but I hear it's not the easiest thing to do right.
Plus once it's setup you've got to keep it maintained.
And many people will find out that you have a mail server, and so can send you virtually unlimited amount of highly interesting news.
Anyway, some 20 years ago, that was fun. Because virtually nothing was checked. I could send emails showing
president@whitehouse.gov
orosama@alqaida.com
in theFROM
header.
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@dkf said in The Official Status Thread:
@loopback0 said in The Official Status Thread:
Is there any other provider with even close to the amount of users as Gmail?
Office365 perhaps. They have a lot of corporate use.
Perhaps, but El Reg calls it Office 361 for some reason.
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@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:
Iâve had more downtime with gmail than Iâve had with outlook. itâs been a few years though. I remember more aws outages to be fair.
status it shockingly hard to find a dual sim phone that supports lineage os for under âŹ150.
You can have mine. It's banned from VoLTE on AT&T though, ymmv.
Does it come with mystery fluids?
No. But the silicone case has funny colours on it.
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@topspin said in The Official Status Thread:
I also doubt it's time well spent if you're not already an expert.
I kind of agree. The end result would be the best (I totally believe you can get below $3/month with cloud, if you go single domain), but the way there is definitely hard. But again - I consider it somewhat paranoid to consider getting permanently cut off of Gmail a real possibility. Paranoid problems require paranoid solutions.
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@Gustav said in The Official Status Thread:
But again - I consider it somewhat paranoid to consider getting permanently cut off of Gmail a real possibility. Paranoid problems require paranoid solutions.
But you previously said it happened to yourself just because you moved overseas?!
Did I misunderstand what you meant?
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in The Official Status Thread:
@dkf said in The Official Status Thread:
@loopback0 said in The Official Status Thread:
Is there any other provider with even close to the amount of users as Gmail?
Office365 perhaps. They have a lot of corporate use.
Perhaps, but El Reg calls it Office 361 for some reason.
It's 99% of the way there...
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@topspin said in The Official Status Thread:
@Gustav said in The Official Status Thread:
But again - I consider it somewhat paranoid to consider getting permanently cut off of Gmail a real possibility. Paranoid problems require paranoid solutions.
But you previously said it happened to yourself just because you moved overseas?!
Because I intentionally neglected setting up any sort of password recovery. Just don't do that and you're golden.
It's not like I lost anything of significance. It's an email I set up when I was 10 that I only used for registering at various forums I don't visit anymore.
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@Gustav said in The Official Status Thread:
Just don't do that and you're golden.
Except for the guy who had a recovery mail address and got told "sorry, I can't do that Dave."
Or the guy who got told "We read your emails and don't like them. kthxbye!"
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@topspin if you think you'll have better luck with Yahoo then sure, go ahead. Just don't say I didn't warn you.
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@Applied-Mediocrity I won't confirm but won't deny.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in The Official Status Thread:
@Gustav said in The Official Status Thread:
at various forums I don't visit anymore.
Like this one
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@loopback0 didn't realize that's been confirmed.
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@topspin it's not been denied
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@Gustav said in The Official Status Thread:
[Gmail] It's an email I set up when I was 10
:crying-belt-onion:
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@Zecc it wasn't even my first email.
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@Gustav What I meant is: Gmail was a thing when you were ten.
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On the state of email providers:
Yahoo, go fuck yourself. Spam haven but good luck sending actual legitimate email to it.
Gmail: free if you donât mind everything being scanned to profile you badly. Reasonable anti spam.
Hotmail/Outlook: good luck getting real email to it. Doubly so if the address actually is a Hotmail address vs outlook.com or live.com.
Me, I use FastMail on a paid plan (about ÂŁ50/year for my plan), works pretty good for me,
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@Arantor said in The Official Status Thread:
Me, I use FastMail on a paid plan (about ÂŁ50/year for my plan), works pretty good for me,
Same here. Very happy with it.
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@Zecc said in The Official Status Thread:
@Gustav What I meant is: Gmail was a thing when you were ten.
~8, by my rough calculations.
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@Arantor said in The Official Status Thread:
FastMail on a paid plan
Looks good, although not hosted in Europe? Will add to the list of things to look into.
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@topspin said in The Official Status Thread:
@Arantor said in The Official Status Thread:
FastMail on a paid plan
Looks good, although not hosted in Europe? Will add to the list of things to look into.
Iâve been with them a long time, probably 10 years or more at this point? I looked into it at the time and it seemed safe enough.
Though now I look I wonder if I should reconsider that.
Mailbox.org seems to come well recommended as an EU alternative.
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@Zenith Everybody who thought I brought this on myself by being a jerk or using old software, suck it. They did an update and wiped out alot of people's contact settings. Once the CS agent flipped the switch on their end, it suddenly started working again. In other words, "your settings are (not) right where you left them."
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@Arantor How's your writing going (if any)?
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@Applied-Mediocrity I hit 10406 words last night. Iâm not the most thrilled by it because some of it feels pretty padded but by a wing and a prayer Iâm managing to keep up with it despite the work crazy.
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@Zecc said in The Official Status Thread:
@Gustav What I meant is: Gmail was a thing when you were ten.
I must believe it is an exaggeration, otherwise he's younger than me and that's more pie flavored than I want to imagine...
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@Arantor Good, good. Don't let the second week slump get you.
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@Applied-Mediocrity thatâs not my problem, coping with the work crazy is a much bigger problem right now :(
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@Arantor Even better. I mean, it could be worse. You know, could be both going badly. Err, just carry on.
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@BernieTheBernie said in The Official Status Thread:
@loopback0 said in The Official Status Thread:
@Zecc said in The Official Status Thread:
@Gustav said in The Official Status Thread:
You're fighting Lovecraftian horrors of technology day in, day out, for years - maybe decades. And you're saying you're scared of setting up an email server?
Yes? We call that "experience".
I haven't setup an email server myself, but I hear it's not the easiest thing to do right.
Plus once it's setup you've got to keep it maintained.
And many people will find out that you have a mail server, and so can send you virtually unlimited amount of highly interesting news.
Anyway, some 20 years ago, that was fun. Because virtually nothing was checked. I could send emails showing
president@whitehouse.gov
orosama@alqaida.com
in theFROM
header.20-ish years ago, I ran my own email server on the surplus PC that was also my web server. My inbox is a catch-all; anything (with a small handful of exceptions; there are one or two other valid (but disused) accounts, and I think my ISP may redirect
postmaster
) at my domain will land in my inbox. And I could similarly use any username at my domain for outbound mail. I never tried impersonating any other domain, and for that matter rarely if ever used anything other than my real username for my own domain.As for setting it up, I don't remember any details, but I read up on how to do it. It probably took a half-day or so, I don't remember. The two biggest things that I remember were triple-checking that it wasn't configured as an open relay and setting up filtering rules, both spam and username suffix. Whatever MDA I used supported automatic filtering to folders by username suffix (username, username-abc, username-def, etc.), which I think took some small amount of effort to enable. Adding spam filtering rules as necessary was the main maintenance task.
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@Gustav said in The Official Status Thread:
The reason Gmail got popular in the first place was because they were much better than both Yahoo and Hotmail specifically, at the time. And except for mandatory phone number verification, Gmail didn't really get any worse than it used to.
One of, if not the biggest thing at the time, was offering a shitload more storage space. Hotmail and Yahoo would let you have 100 MB or something in total, with a 2 MB attachment limit, whereas Gmail started out with 1 GB that steadily increased over time.
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@Arantor said in The Official Status Thread:
Hotmail/Outlook: good luck getting real email to it. Doubly so if the address actually is a Hotmail address vs outlook.com or live.com.
My work email is provided by Outlook, and while my crappy work emails aren't too important, I imagine that corporate muckety-mucks with fancy C level emails would be quite upset if their paid service didn't work right
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@Zecc said in The Official Status Thread:
@Gustav What I meant is: Gmail was a thing when you were ten.
I must believe it is an exaggeration, otherwise he's younger than me and that's more pie flavored than I want to imagine...
Assuming that the not-confirmed-not-denied rumours are true, he's never had any onions on his belt
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@error said in The Official Status Thread:
"good code"
I mean....
Good game code is totally fucked.