🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD
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@da-Doctah said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Our Lady of Inappropriate Precision:
When I was a younger fellow, I was part of the leadership of a boy scout troop. We planned each troop meeting; there was the opening bit with the flags, some games, some teaching, etc., and then we'd wrap up with retiring the flags.
We started with "the meeting starts at 7pm." And all was well. But, being boy scouts, we tended to run a bit late. So we'd be a few minutes late, and then the first thing on the agenda would have to either wrap up early or run past its time slot.
And so we said: "let's start at 7:05pm." And all was well. But, being boy scouts, this wasn't exactly high stakes, and we tended to run a bit late.
By the time I left that troop, we were officially starting at 7:15pm, which meant we actually got going around 7:20pm.
Maybe this church would like to start at 10:30, but can't actually accomplish that, and has started on the schedule slippage.
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@PotatoEngineer Had a scrum master who would occasionally show up on time and wonder why people were late. He said that he needed to tell them to show up on time. I said that if he set the example, then people would show up on time, and he wouldn't have to say anything. He didn't like that.
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@PotatoEngineer At no point did you think you should reverse polarity and agree to officially start at 6:55? Then you'd actually start at 7:00.
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@Zecc that sounds awfully like the anti-
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@Zecc said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@PotatoEngineer At no point did you think you should reverse polarity and agree to officially start at 6:55? Then you'd actually start at 7:00.
Alas, we were at the mercy of whenever parents dropped their kids off at the meeting. Really, what we should have done was to actually enforce the start time, but we thought that, by adjusting our start-time, we were reflecting "reality."
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The journalist — based in Newcastle, NSW — explained her son's name was part of an experiment for a new television show called WTFAQ.
The show answers viewers' questions on weird and wonderful topics, with a recent submission inquiring about the process of how the birth registry chooses legal names for babies when parents don't submit a name that's "acceptable".
Ms Drysdale was initially in "shock" when the name slipped through the vetting process after her son was born in July
Oh, I'm sure it will be a funny story for Meth to tell his buddies when he grows up.
It is unclear how the name was approved by the birth registry, other than the fact it shouldn't have, but Ms Drysdale assured her son's title would be changed and this "journalistic whoopsie" would be corrected on his birth certificate.
Well, that's disappointing.
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@Zecc said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
a funny story for Meth
proposed new name is Meh.
A meme overlord is born.
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@Luhmann I will be disappointed again if his new name isn't Metthew.
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@Zecc said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
the birth registry chooses legal names for babies when parents don't submit a name that's "acceptable".
is a birth registry deciding what parents are allowed to name their own children.
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@HardwareGeek
They should have tried with Fuck Off or Wanker
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@HardwareGeek said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
is a birth registry deciding what parents are allowed to name their own children.
is dumb parents trying to name their children with stupid names.
Some examples from Quebec:
- Lampe
- Pelle
- Spatule
- Xxxxxxxalaniqo’oka
- Iehwatsirahnira’ts
- Ietohrhuostha
- Wednesday
- Louve
- Neige
- Mésange
- P
- Goldorak
- Gazouille
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I know that Denver Children's hospital reviews all the names submitted, mostly to avoid obviously offensive names or ones based on cultural misunderstanding (lots of foreign patients).
My sister has relayed a bunch that have been questioned but the only two that I can recall right now are 'Malaria' and 'Urine'. Both were non-english speakers not understanding what those words ment they just liked the sound of them.
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@TimeBandit said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@HardwareGeek said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
is a birth registry deciding what parents are allowed to name their own children.
is dumb parents trying to name their children with stupid names.
Some examples from Quebec:
- Lampe
- Pelle
- Spatule
- Xxxxxxxalaniqo’oka
- Iehwatsirahnira’ts
- Ietohrhuostha
- Wednesday
- Louve
- Neige
- Mésange
- P
- Goldorak
- Gazouille
What about X Æ A-12 Musk being refused by California as Æ is not a letter in the modern English alphabet?
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@TimeBandit said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Wednesday
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@TimeBandit Nothing weird about Pelle:
A Scandinavian form of Peter, Pelle means “stone.” Pelle Name Origin: Scandinavian. Pronunciation: pehl-leh.
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@HardwareGeek said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
is a birth registry deciding what parents are allowed to name their own children.
For a long time did that as well (they probably still do but only to rule out the most obvious offensive terms). Ostensibly only "traditional" names were allowed.
A family story goes that when I was born my parents had both a boy's and a girl's name ready (this being long ago, baby's sex wasn't known before birth, etc.). The girl's name was that of one of my great-great-grandmother (I think?) but it was extremely unusual (probably partly invented). So my mother had a copy of her ancestor's birth certificate, in order to show it was a real name and not an invention. In the event it wasn't needed...
This control was used as part of the "centralisation" policy and attempts to erase any local languages (and, to an extent, associated culture) such as Breton or Basque languages. For example in Brittany, traditional names such as Yann were rejected. Of course this worked as well as you would expect, especially since nothing prevents anyone from using a different name in everyday's life.
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@remi said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
For a long time did that as well (they probably still do but only to rule out the most obvious offensive terms). Ostensibly only "traditional" names were allowed.
Same here, there was a list of allowed names in the past, now they only deny the weirdest ideas.
@HardwareGeek said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
is a birth registry deciding what parents are allowed to name their own children
Europeans love being controlled. Or rather, they love everyone else being controlled. "But what if someone does something I don't like?! There has to be state oversight over this."
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@MrL Yes, because X Æ A-12 is such a great first name and won't stigmatize the child at all.
Can we keep the shitty in the please?
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@Rhywden More to the point, it doesn't matter how you pronounce it, formally naming a kid "Shithead" is going to end up giving them a bad time sooner or later. School can be quite cruel.
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@dkf said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@Rhywden More to the point, it doesn't matter how you pronounce it, formally naming a kid "Shithead" is going to end up giving them a bad time sooner or later. School can be quite cruel.
I know, I'm seeing the consequences firsthand. Whenever I have such a kid with a "creative" first name then he or she also invariably asks me to either use their second name or, absent one, a different one altogether.
It's not as if such a rule is overly onerous - there's a gazillion names to choose from, along with more or less creative spellings and variations. It's usually just the ones where pretty much everyone (save for the parents) goes: "Yeah, that's not a good idea." which are not allowed.
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@Rhywden said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
I know, I'm seeing the consequences firsthand. Whenever I have such a kid with a "creative" first name then he or she also invariably asks me to either use their second name or, absent one, a different one altogether.
My great-grandparents made it a point to give each of their seven (!) boys a first name that couldn't be "nicknamed": Forrest, Lacy, Ralph, Scott....
To a man, each son chose to go by a nickname anyway; my grandfather "Ralph" was "Jim" from his middle name, one of his brothers was "Shep" from their surname "Shepard", etc.
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@da-Doctah That's what my ex-wife's family did, too, generally by using the common nickname as the legal name: Fred, not Frederick; Ray, not Raymond; Curt, not Curtis; etc.
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@Luhmann said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@remi said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Yann
odd way to spell Jan
It's pronounced "then".
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@da-Doctah said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@Rhywden said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
I know, I'm seeing the consequences firsthand. Whenever I have such a kid with a "creative" first name then he or she also invariably asks me to either use their second name or, absent one, a different one altogether.
My great-grandparents made it a point to give each of their seven (!) boys a first name that couldn't be "nicknamed": Forrest, Lacy, Ralph, Scott....
To a man, each son chose to go by a nickname anyway; my grandfather "Ralph" was "Jim" from his middle name, one of his brothers was "Shep" from their surname "Shepard", etc.
Forrest: fort
Lacy: lace
Ralph: al
Scott: I'll give you that one...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@da-Doctah said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@Rhywden said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
I know, I'm seeing the consequences firsthand. Whenever I have such a kid with a "creative" first name then he or she also invariably asks me to either use their second name or, absent one, a different one altogether.
My great-grandparents made it a point to give each of their seven (!) boys a first name that couldn't be "nicknamed": Forrest, Lacy, Ralph, Scott....
To a man, each son chose to go by a nickname anyway; my grandfather "Ralph" was "Jim" from his middle name, one of his brothers was "Shep" from their surname "Shepard", etc.
Forrest: fort
Lacy: lace
Ralph: al
Scott: I'll give you that one...Eldest son Forrest was named for the big trees of northern California, being the only child out of ten not born in Amarillo.
Lacy was named for his paternal grandfather.
Ralph (my grandfather) would not have called himself Al. Another brother was given the name Alan (like the astronaut) and would have claimed it for himself.
Scott was named for his mother's maiden surname. (She was born Jeanette Scott, and no, this was many years before someone of that name starred in "Day of the Triffids".)
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@da-Doctah Was talking about how names could be nick'd but fair enough I guess?
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@da-Doctah That's quite a bit of PII you're posting outside the Lounge. But then again it's your PII.
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@Zecc said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@da-Doctah That's quite a bit of PII you're posting outside the Lounge. But then again it's your PII.
Everyone has a right to show off their PII-ness.
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@Zecc said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@da-Doctah That's quite a bit of PII you're posting outside the Lounge. But then again it's your PII.
Besides, it's the first names of his great-grandfather and brothers, plus the maiden name of his great-great-grandmother. At that distance, it's about as much PII as sharing ancestry maps (X% this-or-that-European-country etc.).
I think I know the first names of 4 of my great-grandparents (out of 8), maybe 1 of their siblings, and I might be able to remember 1 from the generation above (I know I've heard about them but would need to think a bit to correctly place them). All from the same side. And that's despite my parents being/having been very family-oriented and having even spent a lot of time doing genealogy (which means I have the full files somewhere, just not in my head).
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@remi off by one generation - it’s the great grandparents giving names to children, so it’s the grandparents’ names.
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@Arantor yes, my bad.
So, um, in my case, I immediately know the names of all my grandparents and their siblings. Still, I don't think I know the maiden name of my great-grandmothers. At least, not all of them.
But that's still "PI" that's barely "I."
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@da_Doctah gave out one of his grandparents'/granduncles' password recovery questions.
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"Granduncle" sounds like a skin condition. But I've checked the word exists.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@Luhmann said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@remi said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Yann
odd way to spell Jan
It's pronounced "then".
It isn't, it's pronounced Jan.
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@Luhmann said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@Tsaukpaetra said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@Luhmann said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@remi said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Yann
odd way to spell Jan
It's pronounced "then".
It isn't, it's pronounced Jan.
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@Zecc said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
"Granduncle" sounds like a skin condition. But I've checked the word exists.
Yes, I greatly prefer this to the abhorrent but more common "greatuncle". A great grandparent is three generations above someone, so why do people use "greatuncle" to refer to someone only two generations above someone? Granduncle seems to fit better.
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@jinpa said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
the abhorrent
I just hate all these specifiers in general. Who cares if they're removed and what convoluted path it took to describe the relation?
I vote the usage of "ancestor" for anyone dead higher in the tree, and simply "relative" for anyone still alive. If anyone cares then bother with next-neighbor descriptors, but anything else is ridiculous.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@jinpa said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
the abhorrent
I just hate all these specifiers in general. Who cares if they're removed and what convoluted path it took to describe the relation?
I vote the usage of "ancestor" for anyone dead higher in the tree, and simply "relative" for anyone still alive. If anyone cares then bother with next-neighbor descriptors, but anything else is ridiculous.
Oh the heck with it. Just call everybody "cousin". Doesn't matter if they're above or below you in the chart, what gender anyone is, or even whether they're related at all. There are already cultures that do this.
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@da-Doctah said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@Tsaukpaetra said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@jinpa said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
the abhorrent
I just hate all these specifiers in general. Who cares if they're removed and what convoluted path it took to describe the relation?
I vote the usage of "ancestor" for anyone dead higher in the tree, and simply "relative" for anyone still alive. If anyone cares then bother with next-neighbor descriptors, but anything else is ridiculous.
Oh the heck with it. Just call everybody "cousin". Doesn't matter if they're above or below you in the chart, what gender anyone is, or even whether they're related at all. There are already cultures that do this.
"Brother" and "Sister".
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@da-Doctah Hey cuz!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@da-Doctah said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Oh the heck with it. Just call everybody "cousin". Doesn't matter if they're above or below you in the chart, what gender anyone is, or even whether they're related at all. There are already cultures that do this.
"Brother" and "Sister".
If you're Chinese, you have to distinguish between "older sibling" and "younger sibling", as well as between "brother" and "sister". They seem to find such dichotomies important. Relying on "cousin" eliminates such unnecessary distinctions.
Perhaps it might be better to switch to a less loaded term, like, say, "tovarishch".
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@da-Doctah said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Oh the heck with it. Just call everybody "cousin". Doesn't matter if they're above or below you in the chart, what gender anyone is, or even whether they're related at all. There are already cultures that do this.
"Cuzzie-bro"
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@HardwareGeek said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@da-Doctah That's what my ex-wife's family did, too, generally by using the common nickname as the legal name: Fred, not Frederick; Ray, not Raymond; Curt, not Curtis; etc.
I have an uncle whose legal name is Ronnie. He goes by Ron.
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@Luhmann said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@Tsaukpaetra said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@Luhmann said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@remi said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Yann
odd way to spell Jan
It's pronounced "then".
It isn't, it's pronounced Jan.
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@da-Doctah said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@Tsaukpaetra said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@da-Doctah said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Oh the heck with it. Just call everybody "cousin". Doesn't matter if they're above or below you in the chart, what gender anyone is, or even whether they're related at all. There are already cultures that do this.
"Brother" and "Sister".
If you're Chinese, you have to distinguish between "older sibling" and "younger sibling", as well as between "brother" and "sister". They seem to find such dichotomies important. Relying on "cousin" eliminates such unnecessary distinctions.
Perhaps it might be better to switch to a less loaded term, like, say, "tovarishch".
No. The version is
tongzhe
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Context: I have spent part of today playing with Laravel Vapor - essentially a wrapper around taking a PHP+Laravel app and punting it onto serverless tech on AWS. The client wants to build it this way and its their dime so who am I to argue.
Bad idea: now my brain wants to make a project to play with this tech because it's actually quite nice in its own way even if it is spit spit serverless. Once you plug the different bits in, it does "just work"
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