🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD
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@HardwareGeek said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@Karla said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
what is the correct way of dealing with the question mark in the quote?
That's an unusual sentence structure. I didn't know, so I did a little research, and AFAICT, you punctuated it correctly, although I'd probably make "Pfft" it's own little sentence, and start the question with a capital letter.
Pfft! "How many ...
Yes either that or not capitalized how.
I blame tequila or just general tiredness.
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@da-Doctah said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
I have issues, however, when both the quote and the sentence in which it is contained require non-period punctuation, as in:
Did I hear you ask "what's wrong with wearing Crocs?"?
or
How dare you tell me "go screw yourself!"!
or other combinations such as those calling for both the interro and the bang.For more fun, try combinations where the required terminators of the parts are different to each other.
Did I hear you exclaim “How dare you query my judgement with ‘What's wrong with wearing Crocs?’!”?
Nested parsing: makes more sense to programmers than virtually any other humans…
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@HardwareGeek said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@Zecc quoted in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Luckily
Not lucky for the quality of the human gene pool.
Not quoted by @Zecc:
(and please, please don’t lick) any wildlife you may find.
Seems like sound advice.
Don't tell @error what to do.
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Bad Idea: Derailing the bad ideas thread with grammar.
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@Karla said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Bad Idea:
Derailing the bad ideas thread withgrammar.Yes, agreeing I.
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@Karla My and shirts arrived the other day.
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@Zecc said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
So... it has exactly one use case: a home invader has picked up your shiny gun (which you left outside of a safe, of course, because it's locked! It doesn't need to be in a safe!) The lighting is likely to be poor, and the invader is unlikely to a) identify the device and b) decide to try to unlock the device via trying every combination, in the short time available. They'll just grab the gun and try to fence it later.
Congratulations! You will not be shot by a home invader at the time of the home invasion using your own gun. Instead, you'll be shot by the home invader using his own gun.
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Continuing the thread about bad ideas and guns:
In case you did not notice it: This is a real gun.
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@Rhywden said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Continuing the thread about bad ideas and guns:
In case you did not notice it: This is a real gun.
Is it actually dot compatible? And did they make sure the Mindstorms motors are able to rack it?
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@Rhywden said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Continuing the thread about bad ideas and guns:
In case you did not notice it: This is a real gun.
There are Lego knockoffs; surely, as long as the plastic-block-maker isn't using Lego logos, they're fine? (Though I could imagine Lego launching a not-exactly-good-faith lawsuit just to make the Lego gun go away. In this case, it looks like a simple cease-and-desist letter did the job.)
The Lego knockoffs don't have the consistency that Lego has, so the bricks don't snap on cleanly and consistently, but they're otherwise usable. And some of them are interchangeable with Lego (modulo the lower quality).
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@PotatoEngineer It's not so much about Lego but more about that actual guns looking like toys is not a good idea in any way.
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@Rhywden said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@PotatoEngineer It's not so much about Lego but more about that actual guns looking like toys is not a good idea in any way.
Aesthetics. This same argument already ruined toy guns.
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@Rhywden said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@PotatoEngineer It's not so much about Lego but more about that actual guns looking like toys is not a good idea in any way.
Oh, I'm with you; it's a bad idea in general, and an even worse idea for Lego to be able to be associated with it at all. I'm just thinking that Lego might not have had much of a legal leg to stand on.
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@PotatoEngineer said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@Rhywden said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@PotatoEngineer It's not so much about Lego but more about that actual guns looking like toys is not a good idea in any way.
Oh, I'm with you; it's a bad idea in general, and an even worse idea for Lego to be able to be associated with it at all. I'm just thinking that Lego might not have had much of a legal leg to stand on.
Didn't they release a .22 rimfire pistol in one of the Technic sets in the '80s?
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@PotatoEngineer said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@Rhywden said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@PotatoEngineer It's not so much about Lego but more about that actual guns looking like toys is not a good idea in any way.
Oh, I'm with you; it's a bad idea in general, and an even worse idea for Lego to be able to be associated with it at all. I'm just thinking that Lego might not have had much of a legal leg to stand on.
In addition to the whole "toy that isn't" look, it looks like tons of extra weight and places to get caught on holsters, etc. So a bad idea functionally as well as pragmatically/ethically/legally/whatever.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@PotatoEngineer said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@Rhywden said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@PotatoEngineer It's not so much about Lego but more about that actual guns looking like toys is not a good idea in any way.
Oh, I'm with you; it's a bad idea in general, and an even worse idea for Lego to be able to be associated with it at all. I'm just thinking that Lego might not have had much of a legal leg to stand on.
In addition to the whole "toy that isn't" look, it looks like tons of extra weight and places to get caught on holsters, etc. So a bad idea functionally as well as pragmatically/ethically/legally/whatever.
Not for arming my Lego robots. Looks perfect for that.
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@PotatoEngineer said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Oh, I'm with you; it's a bad idea in general, and an even worse idea for Lego to be able to be associated with it at all. I'm just thinking that Lego might not have had much of a legal leg to stand on.
First off, Lego have been pretty consistent with not wanting to be associated with realistic arms, armaments or military equipment. Occasionally things almost slip past (there was a model kit that almost made to sale last year that was military-adjacent) but they're rare. The closest you get are small bits of plastic for minifigs to hold.
They can't stop you from making your own, of course. But when it comes to selling products and including the Lego name in the product advertising, they've got some standing. I don't think they can stop someone from selling without advertising it as such (the standing relates to brand management) but that would reduce the point of doing the sale.
It's also not much more than just sticking bricks to the outside of a non-Lego object, which is a singularly dull style of model building.
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@dkf said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@PotatoEngineer said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Oh, I'm with you; it's a bad idea in general, and an even worse idea for Lego to be able to be associated with it at all. I'm just thinking that Lego might not have had much of a legal leg to stand on.
First off, Lego have been pretty consistent with not wanting to be associated with realistic arms, armaments or military equipment. Occasionally things almost slip past (there was a model kit that almost made to sale last year that was military-adjacent) but they're rare. The closest you get are small bits of plastic for minifigs to hold.
They can't stop you from making your own, of course. But when it comes to selling products and including the Lego name in the product advertising, they've got some standing. I don't think they can stop someone from selling without advertising it as such (the standing relates to brand management) but that would reduce the point of doing the sale.
It's also not much more than just sticking bricks to the outside of a non-Lego object, which is a singularly dull style of model building.
Right, but that gun doesn't have a Lego logo anywhere on it. The gun-maker made this "Block19" gun, which doesn't have anything to do with Lego except for studs that are the correct size, and a color scheme that's pretty close to Lego's classic colors.
I get that Lego hates this and wants it gone. I'm just trying to figure out whether a court would have ruled in Lego's favor, or whether Lego's response here is just the typical "threaten an expensive lawsuit and the other party goes away because, while they liked doing the thing they were doing, they didn't like it so much as to fund a lawsuit defending it." And with only ~20 sales, the gun company clearly didn't find it worth defending a lawsuit.
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@PotatoEngineer I wonder if the "studs that are the correct size, and a color scheme that's pretty close to Lego's classic colors" might not be enough for Lego to have a valid point.
The stud design itself was obviously patented, but "was" is the operative word as AFAIK the patent has expired, so anyone can do copies if they want to. However it is more than likely that Lego has a number of protected designs (=copyrights or whatever the exact legal term is) that protect elements that they deem integral to their brand (like their brand name itself, obviously). And depending on what designs they have actually protected (and which ones would be rules as valid by a judge), they might have a leg(o) to sue there.
Which kind of makes sense: while I think that copyrighting generic stuff like "a round corner" (Google vs. Samsung IIRC?) is stupid, in this example here it's quite obvious that the gun maker is using Lego's brand recognition (by using studs and colours that everyone associates with Lego), so they are clearly benefiting from Lego's brand without Lego's agreement.
It's all since the cease & desist letter was enough, so we'll never know what a judge might have ruled, of course.
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@remi said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
The stud design itself was obviously patented, but "was" is the operative word as AFAIK the patent has expired, so anyone can do copies if they want to. However it is more than likely that Lego has a number of protected designs (=copyrights or whatever the exact legal term is) that protect elements that they deem integral to their brand (like their brand name itself, obviously). And depending on what designs they have actually protected (and which ones would be rules as valid by a judge), they might have a leg(o) to sue there.
The key things would have been trademarks; the functional elements of the designs have been around for a very long time, to the point where things like patents and design patents would now have expired. Trademarks don't expire provided they are actually used and defended. OTOH, trademarks specifically cannot protect functional elements of a design.
In short, it's possible for Lego's competitors to make exact copies of most common bricks (not sure about more modern designs) with the exception of the company logo that is usually somewhere. If the people selling that gun had just stated “made with Lego elements” then it would have been difficult for C&D to have much bite (assuming it was true) as that would be a factual statement. But if they'd gone further and called it a Lego Gun, that crosses the line into appearing to be an endorsement of the overall product by a company that's long refused to do that sort of thing, and would be something that a hearing would probably agree with.
Fine lines abound in IP law.
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@TwelveBaud said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
At least those Ethernet cables are going to be more reliable than the equipment that subreddit is for.
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@TwelveBaud That's super useful for all those cases where your cable is 1cm too short, i.e., always.
(Corollary: if you have a 1cm extension, your cables will henceforth be 1.5cm too short.)
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@cvi said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@TwelveBaud That's super useful ... if you have a 1cm extension, your cables will henceforth be 1.5cm too short.)
Through further such diffractions we can then shorten the cable indefinitely.
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@izzion said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@TwelveBaud said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
At least those Ethernet cables are going to be more reliable than the equipment that subreddit is for.
Is Ubiquiti gear failing frequently then?
Asking because I just got an EdgeRouterX, 6 months ago, to replace my failing TP-Link router.
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@acrow I have an EdgeRouterX and it's been working all fine for like 3 years now. No problems with it, or the access point from them I also got.
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@acrow said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@izzion said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@TwelveBaud said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
At least those Ethernet cables are going to be more reliable than the equipment that subreddit is for.
Is Ubiquiti gear failing frequently then?
Asking because I just got an EdgeRouterX, 6 months ago, to replace my failing TP-Link router.To be more serious, no, Ubiquiti gear doesn't have a failure rate that is significantly different from other equipment in the same pricing point. It does tend to have a higher than average risk of getting randomly bricked due to firmware upgrades, there's a Lounge thread with more details from someone who's more in the trenches with it than I am these days, but Ubiquiti is somewhat infamous for treating their device firmware with all the care of a Facebook product release. Coupled with the fact that the gear is all cloud managed by default these days and thus tends to get firmware updates automagically, and you kind of get what you pay for.
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I assume Ubiquiti has moved their web interface on a bit - 5 years ago gave us this https://www.theregister.com/2017/03/16/ubiquiti_networking_php_hole/
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Video: Best Smelling Penetrating Oil?
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Now, two warnings before we begin:- Number one: They are all technically poison, okay. And they all definitely say "do not inhale". Is smelling inhaling? Yes, don't inhale it.
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< Continues to spray and smell them, using brake cleaner solvent in between >
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@JBert said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
At very least, this may raise the standard of the art.
Kinda hard to follow, somehow I found myself zoning out partway through.
Update: I still can't remember which one won.
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Mom, I found this artillery shell on our trip. Can we keep it?
Airport security wasn't amused, and then some passenger misheard the order to clear the area and started shouting about terrorists while running outside.
Needless to say that the evacuation was a mess from that point onward:
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@JBert said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Is smelling inhaling? Yes, don't inhale it.
That wording is stolen from some US
precedentpresident, isn't it?
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@BernieTheBernie said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@JBert said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Is smelling inhaling? Yes, don't inhale it.
That wording is stolen from some US
precedentpresident, isn't it?Eh, actually seems closer to Snoop Dogg's lines in his cameo in ... goddamn stoner movies, why must your titles be unrememberable? lit. "Don't just make me smell it, let me inhale it", in which he rhymed
smell
andinhale
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@Zecc said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
https://i.imgur.com/49wxeqG.jpg
On second thought this should have gone to Nope.
This looks more at home in the nope you eat it threaf
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@Carnage Tell Zecc to grab his timemachine and fix it.
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@JBert said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@Carnage Tell Zecc to grab his timemachine and fix it.
Oh. I guess it's been a while since I saw this thread last time
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@boomzilla The guy who just entered it in order to have a shit, will have a ... experience!
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If your company makes locks, don't email LockPickingLawyer asking to have your product featured on his channel, and especially don't brag about how popular it is. You just might get what you ask for.
In completely unrelated news, the oft-quoted statement "There's no such thing as bad publicity" is false.
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@boomzilla Wow, and I thought Storm Chaser Brandon Copic got too close, but this guy's a Darwin candidate for sure.
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@HardwareGeek said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@boomzilla Wow, and I thought Storm Chaser Brandon Copic got too close, but this guy's a Darwin candidate for sure.
8 1/2 hours? Definitely TL;DW!
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@dcon said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Definitely TL;DW!
TL to bother trying to find the time where his partner is yelling at him to either back up or drive forward, because (from the other guy's viewing angle, it looks like) a barn roof is about to fall on his car. (Spoiler: It didn't ... quite.)
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@da-Doctah said in 🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Our Lady of Inappropriate Precision:
They have a nice round phone number, though.