Vivaldi!!!!!!!!! (it's a web browser I guess)
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There's multiple?
Model number: Moto X
System information: Motorola X8 Mobile Computing System
Android version: 4.4.4
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There's multiple?
Model number: Moto X
System information: Motorola X8 Mobile Computing System
Android version: 4.4.4Yep. You've got the 2013 model, since it's the one with the X8.
Also woot phone buddies! :highfive:
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This is what my new phone looks like currently:
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It is acceptable for it to rest on the kitchen counter when I'm not out & about.
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It is acceptable for it to rest on the kitchen counter when I'm not out & about.
What‽ Are you some kind of a Luddite, or is your domicile small enough that the kitchen counter is always within arms reach?
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Are you some kind of a Luddite, or is your domicile small enough that the kitchen counter is always within arms reach?
Yes. Basically yes.
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CarbonROM eh? Not bad, although the blue in the status bar seems tough to read...
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CarbonROM eh? Not bad, although the blue in the status bar seems tough to read...
It does look more readable IRL than in the screenshot... But yeah, at this rate I may as well start building my own theme from the ground up... :)
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It does look more readable IRL than in the screenshot... But yeah, at this rate I may as well start building my own theme from the ground up... <tt>:)
I've never even looked into the theme engine (Presumably the CM based one?) - how bad is it to customize?
Also, how did
:)
turn into
<tt>:)
@discoursebot
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@sloosecannon - Last Day Without A Discourse Bug: null
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I put the <tt> in there to stop it turning my :) into a :)
But yeah, there are two different ways of quoting and they both mangle the source text in different ways...
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I've never even looked into the theme engine (Presumably the CM based one?) - how bad is it to customize?
I haven't looked into it either—it's on my "list of things to do if I empty out my todo list..."
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put the <tt> in there to stop it turning my :) into
I use
:\)
.Fails for stuff like
:P
though,
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I put the <tt> in there to stop it turning my <tt>:)</tt> into a :)
But yeah, there are two different ways of quoting and they both mangle the source text in different ways...
Kinda figured it was related to that. Still,
I'm still surprised nobody has tried to fix quoting things with any success. It's obvious Jeff&Co won't...I haven't looked into it either—it's on my "list of things to do if I empty out my todo list..."
Hah I have one of those too!
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I'm still surprised nobody has tried to fix quoting things with any success. It's obvious Jeff&Co won't...
Well, PJH kinda did, which resulted in some new bugs like me and @tar just found out in another thread. For once, the Discodevs are not at fault.
Well, other then making it shit to begin with so we had to try and apply fixes.
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For once, the Discodevs are not at fault.
I actually disagree with that, if I quote someone's post my expectation is that the text I quoted is reproduced as faithfully as is possible. The Discourse quoting behaviour is basically braindamaged.
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Huh. Didn't see that. Meh. Still probably better than vanilla Discourse quoting
I actually disagree with that, if I quote someone's post my expectation is that the text I quoted is reproduced as faithfully as is possible. The Discourse quoting behaviour is basically braindamaged.
Also this
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I didn't see the actual code, but I'm buttuming PJH tried to fix indentation on different types of blocks inside a quote block by wrapping them in paragraphs. This failed when combining those block types.
The particular manifestation of the bug is PJH's "fault". The crappyness of the quoting system itself is Discodevs.
Fair enough?
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The particular manifestation of the bug is PJH's "fault". The crappyness of the quoting system itself is Discodevs.
I suppose. But it's important to remember that the Discodevs don't even consider quoting to be broken, let alone attempt to fix it.
Given that, I think that's a little unfair to 'blame' PJH for trying to present the illusion of sanity over the patently insane default...
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Given that, I think that's a little unfair to 'blame' PJH for trying to present the illusion of sanity over the patently insane default...
I blame him in the sense that his code did break stuff. But it actually works pretty well and we hit an edge case. I am not even sure it's fixable given what he had to work with.
If there's a better word to use, I don't know it. ESL and all. But there are no ill feelings in any case.
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There are people here who are stuck on 2010 (me) or 2008.
:hand:
See the menu in all caps there? That's because this is from Visual Studio 2013.
You can turn that off:
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There are people here who are stuck on 2010 (me) or 2008.
Or earlier...
We have .NET 2.0 projects that haven't been upgraded (and likely won't ever be) to newer versions of VS that I have to work in. And I do have to dive into a .NET 1.1 project now and again (that I'm also currently working on upgrading to .NET 4.0 and phasing out, hooray for that).
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@_SIGNS_NOT_FOUND
<valid>
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I didn't want to spam you. I guess you already get plenty of that. Also, we dragged one discussion over two threads. Because we were Doing It Wrong™
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I just followed Onyx's example...
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At least you aren't stuck with VC++6 and its multitude of C++ (in)digestion infelicities...
If someone told me to use a compiler that archaic, I'd complain all the way to the C-levels!
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If someone told me to use a compiler that archaic, I'd complain all the way to the C-levels!
What you did there. I saw it.
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Oh, I'm working on VB code in all of those (and some C#, but not much). Also have VB6 installed and have to work in VBA in Access now and again for one client.
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Eeeeeek!
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The stacks are still vastly inferior to Opera 12 ones btw, but they are just the best thing currently available, IMHO.
Are you diehard against using Firefox? I certainly understand if you are, but the tab stacking in https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-utilities is currently a lot more like Opera 12's.
Which is part of why Vivaldi has no real chance of becoming my daily driver until they have "open new tab next to current" and "focus left tab on tab close." I haven't looked yet to see whether "The UI is written in html and javascript!!1eleven!" means I can try to hack together a fix for that myself.
Other than tab stacking/grouping, I still expect browser tabs to work mostly the way they did by default in Scope, Crazybrowser, and Netcaptor...
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At least for Nexus devices. I assume you probably came from something non-nexus before (Samsung?)...
Samsung devices have had it for a fair while too. Samsung used to do a better job of the recent apps thing than stock Android on earlier versions.
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Woo hoo! Change for change's sake!
You just named the impetus behind Windows 8.
"Hey, let's fuck with stuff."
"Why?"
"Because we can."
"Good enough for me. How about when anyone tries to select a program, the entire UI changes and blanks out their screen? Just to fuck with them."
"Sounds good to me. Let's also assume that everyone is on a tablet, and base the UI off of a touch screen interface."
"But, desktops don't have touch screens..."
"Exactly. If we are going to screw with people, let's go all-in."
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The blurry glass effect was pretty cool, and a nice way of telling technical people "hey, we're running on that GPU now" without doing pointless, distracting "turning windows into cubes and rotating them" shit.
No, the blurry glass effect was pointless in itself. I don't care about chintzy effects. I care how things work. Fuck the window dressing, just give me stuff that works. And Vista did not work (very well).
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Quick! Ask @wood to add one to Discforce!
I just might. Although, all feedback would be ignored anyway.
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The blurry glass effect was pretty cool, and a nice way of telling technical people "hey, we're running on that GPU now" without doing pointless, distracting "turning windows into cubes and rotating them" shit.
Linux also had wobbly windows, don't forget that. They were so fun. You could set the wobbliness to max and the damping to zero and they'd never stop.
Not so useful for work, but who uses Linux for that?
(technically it still has them, but no distro comes with them pre-installed so you have to do it yourself)
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Tell ya what, when Google has a single web app that isn't a ball of unusable shit
I use a lot of Google web apps, so clearly I'm a walking paradox.
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Well it's five months later and AFAICT Google is still a ball of unusable shit. At work someone logged in to Google on a conference room computer in Chrome in incognito mode and it SYNC'D HIS ENTIRE LIFE into the browser. And no, not even just into that incognito session. NEAT!
< ALTHOUGH>Google+ is "dying" for some definition of "dying." So that's a plus?</ ALTHOUGH>
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Google+ is "dying" for some definition of "dying."
If by "dying" you mean "growing at a normal rate", then yes.
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I put it in quotes, twice. I said "for some definition." What more do you want from me, Ben?
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Does my statement contradict yours?
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I don't know. Does the pope shit in the woods?
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I don't know. Does the pope shit in the woods?
Yes, but only while the bear preaches to the masses
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At work someone logged in to Google on a conference room computer in Chrome in incognito mode and it SYNC'D HIS ENTIRE LIFE into the browser. And no, not even just into that incognito session. NEAT!
Then he didn't do it in incognito mode. Probably signed in to the "Sign In to Chrome" dialog.
@superjer said:< ALTHOUGH>Google+ is "dying" for some definition of "dying." So that's a plus?</ ALTHOUGH>
Meh. Still better than facebook :P
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Then he didn't do it in incognito mode. Probably signed in to the "Sign In to Chrome" dialog.
I was there. It was incognito mode. It was a bug.Meh. Still better than facebook :P
I wouldn't know. I've never used Facebook and Youtube didn't force me to sign up for it.
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My guess as to why this went to WTF is that, if you do not separate the UI and rendering engine as components, the notion of a web browser made with HTML gives a dizzying Cream of Wheat effect.