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If the spec says it is Undefined Behaviour™, it counts as Something that will invariably happen, and probably be posted to this site.
FIXED!
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> My question is, does Evas_Object come even close to giving you the features QObject does?
Yes, it does. It also provide ABI stability without additional effort. For a longer answer there is kind of a doc there : https://build.enlightenment.org/job/nightly_efl_gcc_x86_64/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/doc/html/Eo_Tutorial.html .
It's been a while since I last visited this topic and I couldn't sleep, so I decided to read it again. Clicked the link in this post and was greeted with:
...totally worth it.
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I am amazed.
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Well, at least they are consistent. Assholes, but consistent.
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Promising initially, but then you overstep. The greps posted included the -i flag. The issue was with the term itself. But no, grep does not decide to break the string in two parts then search for them when it finds nothing.
Addendum, no, I have no concept of time.
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Yikes, that's a user error, for their server to be over capacity? and they spank for it? Is even yikes if it's a programmer error for the server to be over capacity.
I suppose, tho, that users are expected to use their endpoint for server capacity, before issuing their requests, and if they'd bothered to make the appropriate proxies it would all work as intended.
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I am astonished that almost nobody in here knew about Enlightenment.
Every "cool kid" who used Linux in the early 00s knew about it back then
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I am astonished that almost nobody in here knew about Enlightenment.
You think we'd admit knowing if we did?
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I am astonished that almost nobody in here knew about Enlightenment.
Every "cool kid" who used Linux in the early 00s knew about it back thenKnew about it as a user or as a developer? I eat a lot of sausage, but I don't make it. ( ).
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I used Linux in the early 00s and I didn't knew about it. I was a happy person then.
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Thirteen years ago I used Enlightenment for a week on my work computer. It had a really cool ripple effect that mirrored the windows as if there was a pond at the bottom of the screen and the windows were floating over it. That was great. Wow. It also fucked my flimsy CPU.
So I kinda knew about Enlightenment because it managed some of my windows for a short time. Does that count?
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I knew about it as the thing Linux users were saying was "just as good" as the 2d hardware acceleration in OS X and Windows Vista, while Linux was still drawing windows with the CPU like a peasant.
Obviously those people were liars.
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I tried it on Red Hat 7. Didn't like it. Went back to GNOME.
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I tried the current version (E19) quite recently. While it was pretty, and quite ambitious in what it was supposed to be able to do, it proved to be very unstable and ill-behaved, and the documentation was atrocious.
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Just like its developers, then?
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@Onyx said:
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Key: "left_bracket"
String: "{"<small>"Key" is a WAG, CBA to actually look for the docs page.</small></blockquote> I believe that technical term for it is a "left curlywig". (As contrasted to a "right curlywig" or "}")</blockquote> The terms I learned were: - ( ) parentheses - [] brackets - {} braces
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For me it was round brackets/parentheses, square brackets, curly brackets/braces.
Common Polish has a completely out of whack name for braces - cubic brackets (possibly because square brackets are the second in order, so I guess by analogy the third would be cubic?)
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For me it was round brackets/parentheses, square brackets, curly brackets/braces.
One can hear almost any combination of (round|square|curly|angle) (brackets|braces|parenthesis), but the defaults of parenthesis to round, brackets to square and braces to curly are quite common.
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What about »«? Or is it «»?
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That's French quotes.
I have never seen that used in either maths or programming (except possibly something rather esoteric).
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Perl6
Hyper operators? Guess naming stuff really is hard.
Filed under: hyper operators a bit better than mega operators, but not quite as good as ultra operators
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You know where the trashy music thread is…
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[7:11:42 PM] WW: Yeah we already did. We did end up getting a 32" but it was still a downgrade from the raffle TV lol. It was a 50" smart TV
[7:12:37 PM] blakeyrat: Oh nice
[7:12:39 PM] blakeyrat: Smart TVs are dumb
[7:12:42 PM] blakeyrat: you made a good choic
[7:12:54 PM] blakeyrat: Better off buying a cheaper TV and a Roku for $60
[7:12:56 PM] WW: Honestly it was a good TV as a TV, but the "smart" stuff was shit
[7:12:59 PM] blakeyrat: The Roku does the "smart" stuff fine
[7:13:06 PM] WW: Literally the worst OS I've ever experienced on any device ever
[7:13:09 PM] blakeyrat: Samsung?
[7:13:12 PM] WW: Yep
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Looks like Samsung may have been caught pulling a VW:
http://uk.businessinsider.com/samsung-televisions-cheating-energy-efficiency-tests-2015-10
Or, charitably, it may may be that the promised energy savings simply don't work in anything approaching real use...Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence
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Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence
On the plus side, we know they've got plenty of the latter to spare.
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I just installed Unity because this might make it a bit easier to create simulations of some Physics problems (mostly force interactions, in particular some orbital mechanics - it's fascinating that it's easier energy wise to leave the solar system altogether than flying into the sun)
I shuddered when I saw that one of their build targets is Tizen. I pity the guy who is responsible for maintaining that.
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What do you mean? Doesn't everyone set their Backlight Brightness to 0 for every-day viewing?
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I found something that might be interesting - An opensource application using JavaScript and EFL with Tizen. I think that using JavaScript with a native UI toolkit is questionable, but eh. The repository is located at https://git.enlightenment.org/devs/felipealmeida/contact-sharing.git/about/
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However, the big news we want to share with you today is that the Enlightenment 0.19.12 release drops support for the next-generation Wayland display server. Unfortunately, the Enlightenment developers have omitted to mention why they decided to remove any form of support for Wayland from this release, and if it will return in upcoming releases of the software.
Also:
this release is not compatible with versions of EFL <= 1.15.1 and >= 1.12.0, inclusive. https://phab.enlightenment.org/phame/live/3/post/e19_12_release/
And, no, those version numbers are not a joke.
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the next-generation Wayland display server
Hah! My impression of Wayland is that it is the next big thing, and always will remain that because the developers of it can't ever be bothered to stoop so far as to actually explain how to use their stuff in practice. I eventually found how someone did it (horrible hacks with casting stuff in an obscure way and wedging the resulting surface ID into an OpenGL library, IIRC) but it was completely non-obvious.
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Of course bug #T2745, which is responsible for many EFL versions not working, is Login-walled: https://phab.enlightenment.org/T2745
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Anyone brave enough to paste it here?
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You can run a Fedora 22 and select Gnome on Wayland, it actually works fine (until it does not:)). Why do you need to know how it works though? Unless you work on Qt or Gtk (or maybe VTK) or some other graphics backend (and you currently directly interface to X11) or maybe you are game developer.
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Apparently Wayland support returns in the alpha release of E20
(Disclaimer: Enlightenment is my desktop environment of choice.)
Release announcement is at https://phab.enlightenment.org/phame/live/3/post/e20_alpha_release/
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Why do you need to know how it works though?
Because some of us don't do things by just putting yet another layer of varnish on the turd.
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Somebody linked this topic to Slashdot. Right underneath 364,2326 poss saying X11 is just fine, there's no need to ever think about ever replacing it ever.
Shocker: the moron idiots populating that idiot moron site don't agree with it.
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I like how their main argument is "this guy doesn't know what he's talking about" and that's it. No counter arguments. Also how they quietly skip most of the article. Hell, they didn't even give any kind of real argument against any specific portion of the post.
But it's actually sad. Because of people like these we have unusable crap like EFL or tons of security vulns. Because who needs type and memory safety in 2015, right?
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Because who needs type and memory safety in 2015, right?
Or a sane and readable documentation for all that matters, or some error message more informative than "SPANK SPANK"
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Or a sane and readable documentation for all that matters, or some error message more informative than "SPANK SPANK"
"You bitch!"
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"You bitch!"
It didn't say that! It was 'bitch'. The 'you' was missing which makes it absolutely fine and nothing at all, in any way, like 'you bitch'...the nerve.
Hoist by your own
petardcommit history?
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http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/0/40/1468038-batpapaspank.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/40/1469057-dickspank.jpg
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Let me translate that for you:
(Disclaimer:
Enlightenment is my desktop environment of choice.I like hurting myself.)
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Nice joke, unfortunately it's not true. I find it to be a a desktop that's stable, powerful (in terms of features / configuration options) as well as lightweight.