But Lorne, you've already whored yourself out to office 2007 why not whore yourself out annually?
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@Ascendant said:
The grammar fiends on this forum will be sure to disagree!Hey, where did the DinoNazi go?
The Nazis were defeated.
I have a family subscription that we pay $99 for. Divided between five of us that's $20 each. If I knew how much aggro forcing everyone to back everything up to one drive would save me I would pay it myself. Unbeknowst to them I like their money more!
The extra skype minutes are nice too.
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And what if you put your data local but your backups in the cloud? Just asking for a friend.
As long as you follow the 3-2-1 rule for backups you'll be fine
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3 backups in on a second partition
2 backups on a thumb drive on my desk
1 backup ... now where did I put that again?
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3 backups in on a second partition
2 backups on a thumb drive on my desk
1 backup ... now where did I put that again?
that's...... that's not right.....
no.....
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@accalia said:
that's not right
It's just organized for fast retrieval
but fast retrieval is not the point of backups....
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@Luhmann said:
@accalia said:
that's not right
It's just organized for fast retrieval
but fast retrieval is not the point of backups....
You're right ... I should stop using that thumb drive and just put it on my OneDrive and let MS syncronize it between my disk and the cloud.
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You're right ... I should stop using that thumb drive and just put it on my OneDrive and let MS syncronize it between my disk and the cloud.
but..... but..... what is.....
[insert sound of brain snapping here]
yip! yip (bounce) yip! yip (bounce) yip yip!
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Wouldn't this criticism fit way better if directed to Google Apps?
It would if the article had been about Google Apps, and instead of MS-blowjob giving fanbois here for whom Office36
54 is "good enough"-- there were Google-blowjob giving fanbois--Wait-- Windows avatar, "Halo" username. How's that Microsoft jizz going down these days, boi?
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Office 365 is cheaper.
- What happens when you stop paying the license fees?
- How much is a day's downtime worth, in that $230 vs. $70/year cost calculation?
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@Lorne_Kates said:
What happens when you stop paying the license fees?
A speeding bus crashes into your front window.
@Lorne_Kates said:
How much is a day's downtime worth, in that $230 vs. $70/year cost calculation?
Just use your local HD for that day. When it comes back up, your files will get synched automatically. OneDrive works like DropBox, more or less.
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what would be the point of that?
It's actually a bonus when you get a cloudy Exchange or SharePoint but MS sells it the other way around.
The mind ... it reels o_O
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Time to embrace the madness!
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A speeding bus crashes into your front window.
I knew it. Fucking Micro$oft and their "windows" bullshit.
Just use your local HD for that day. When it comes back up, your files will get synched automatically. OneDrive works like DropBox, more or less.
Isn't the whole point of clouds that you don't need a local hard drive? So you are completely unproductive during outages?
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Fuck that. When I got a new laptop I got a $70 copy of Office Home & Student 2007 which specifically said that it was licensed for installation on 3 home computers:
(exactly like that, except that's not a picture of my copy, it's a picture I lifted from Amazon)
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@Lorne_Kates said:
Isn't the whole point of clouds that you don't need a local hard drive? So you are completely unproductive during outages?
Well DropBox and OneDrive give you both. They're like miracles.
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You realize that was almost a decade ago? Things change over time. You also can't buy a hamburger for a nickel anymore.
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I'm still using it, and you'd have a hard time doing that with a hamburger.
Unless you're just using the hamburger to look at, and it looks just as fresh as it did 10 years ago because of all the preservatives in it... but I digress.
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And Office 2016 can do so much things that 2007 can't
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Yeah but that will stop being supported in one year.
Office end of life is 10 years after publication.
So since Office Professional costs $500, that means $50/year. Office 365
Business is $100/year. Twice as expensive, but it includes more stuff so whatever.
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Support? It was supported?
Hell, I couldn't even easily find legit copies of the installation media when I needed to reinstall it a few years back. I had to find some grey-ware mirror of the official MS site where they used to let you download those.
My legit installation media kind of ... melted ... but the license key in the box was still readable
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And Office 2016 can do so much things that 2007 can't
Office 2016 can fail to work without the Internet. 2007 can't do that.
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@Lorne_Kates said:
Office 2016 can fail to work without the Internet. 2007 can't do that.
To be fair, its clip art facility certainly can.
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3 local backups?
2 network backups?
1 offsite backup?Actually interested.
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3 local backups?
2 network backups?
1 offsite backup?Actually interested.
there's a few variations, that's one of them, but the one i think of and have heard most often is:
Three Backups
Two Different Media (say Disc and Tape)
One Offsiteand of course a backup that's not tested regularly for restoreability is not a backup. ;-)
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Two Different Media (say Disc and Tape)
Depends on how much you're backing up. The more data you have, the more constrained you are.
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@accalia said:
Two Different Media (say Disc and Tape)
Depends on how much you're backing up. The more data you have, the more constrained you are.
well yes, but then the more data you have the more important proper backups are.
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the more data you have the more important proper backups are.
Very true. You also have to define why you are backing the data up, what you are aiming to achieve by doing so. Which sounds simple, but isn't and most people never really think about it. For example, we don't care about trying to survive a nuclear attack as that will also wipe out the lab and the researchers.
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We don't care about the collapse of society, such as a zombie apocalypse, but we do care about the collapse of our building, such as a local outbreak that was quarantined.
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Quite apart from the fact that the building might be once of the places that originates a biobot plague we do replicate stuff to a datacenter on the other side of the city.
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@Luhmann said:
Time to embrace the madness!
Hint: To find out whether you haven't done exactly that long ago remember what forum you're on.
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Chill, @Lorne_Kates
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@accalia said:
Two Different Media (say Disc and Tape)
Depends on how much you're backing up. The more data you have, the more constrained you are.
That's why the real rule is
3 files at most, on
2 usb sticks, in
1 pants pocket
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Chill, @Lorne_Kates
Just like Micro#oft to Embrace Extend Extinguish even in microbiology. They don't obey open source DNA at all.
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They should call me Tom Cruise, because I'm great at
[spoiler]Maybe you weren't entirely serious, sorry[/spoiler]
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PowerPivot is pretty insane in the new excel. Column based compression for serious data crunching and complex formulas. If you thought you hated the accounting department for their spreadsheet macro systems you ain't seen nothing yet.
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They should call me Tom Cruise, because I'm great at
[spoiler]Maybe you weren't entirely serious, sorry[/spoiler]
Yes?
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I think your line is 'YMBNH' and my line is 'I actually am new here' and then we all have a good laugh at how rarely 'YMBNH' is actually used to identify new people.
Right?
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I think your line is 'YMBNH' and my line is 'I actually am new here' and then we all have a good laugh at how rarely 'YMBNH' is actually used to identify new people.
Right?
Fuck you, give me money.
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Do not give Microsoft Money, use LibreOffice Lorne you can do it.
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Microsoft Money
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I actually had this pre-installed and figured out how to transfer it to another machine.
Granted, this was during a time where copying the associated folder in \Program Files was usually almost everything you needed to do to install a program...
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I think your line is 'YMBNH' and my line is 'I actually am new here' and then we all have a good laugh at how rarely 'YMBNH' is actually used to identify new people.
Right?
YTMND
Filed under: I am so great
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Do not give Microsoft Money, use LibreOffice Lorne you can do it.
Funnily enough, when I got my current laptop, since it didn't have Office installed yet, I thought "Hey, you know what, let's give LibreOffice.OrgOOO a fair shake". I installed it, and used it exclusively for close to a year. I used it for word processing, spreadsheets, and pointing powerfully. And you know what?
It's poop. It has half the features of Office 2007. Formatting doesn't work right. It randomly crashes. It's clunky. There's a whole host of neat little things that you just expect to work-- that don't. I started to dread opening it, because I'd have to use it.
Like I said, I used it for close to a year-- so it isn't learning curve, or just getting used to the UI. It's no good. I installed Office 2007, and haven't looked back.
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@Lorne_Kates said:
Office 2007
@Lorne_Kates said:
haven't looked back.
I submit that you're doing nothing but looking back.
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@Lorne_Kates said:
It's poop. It has half the features of Office 2007. Formatting doesn't work right. It randomly crashes. It's clunky. There's a whole host of neat little things that you just expect to work-- that don't. I started to dread opening it, because I'd have to use it.
I was wondering if anyone had any similar experience to me. Man, if people were complaining when 2007 introduced the Ribbon, they should have a field day with how things are scrambled in
OOOLibreOffice compared to even office 2000...