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no one has a right to work
Note : I'm not disputing against you.In the old days, you would have worked on your father's or family's field. The more kid's your da has, the more hands he's got. So no job shortages.
Before that you would have just hunt-gathered in random land or your tribe's land. So no job shortages again.
And now the business entities have basically replaced those "fields". You have to beg or compete for it now .
This is not to say that everyone has a right to be given work but rather my speculation.
short / long term disability
Speaking of which, if your period is that severe that you faint every month you have one, I think it's a long term disability or at least a sort of condition. Or maybe I'm being too lenient.Jew talk
What is Jew talk?
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You have to beg or compete for it now .
You had to compete in both of your examples in the past.
In fact, with natives, that competition often became deadly.
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That is not an employer's problem.
The day smoking breaks will be disallowed I might agree with such a sentiment. Why should someone with a legitimate reason be expected to do more work. At least at my place the smokers disappear for 15 minutes 4 times a day aside from their lunch break.
Personally, I go to work even though I am one of the people who actually have an official endometriosis diagnosis, because I'm a decent human being and don't like to leave my employer in a situation. But I do find it unfair I am not allowed a 10 minute break to take my pain medication on those days - I should pick up smoking I guess.
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But I do find it unfair I am not allowed a 10 minute break to take my pain medication
What slave shops do you people work at? I don't think any of my employers would ever have denied me a 10 minute break, if I needed it, and especially if it's to take medication.
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But I do find it unfair I am not allowed a 10 minute break to take my pain medication on those days - I should pick up smoking I guess.
You need a new job if your employer won't allow you a 10 minute break to take pain meds...or to just go fuck off if you want to.
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At least at my place the smokers disappear for 15 minutes 4 times a day aside from their lunch break.
Then they're taking the piss and should be slapped down, or at least spoken to. I'm out of my chair for at most 5 minutes at a time, 3-4 times a day, and 'lunch break' usually consists (my choice) of me sitting at my desk usually doing something work-related.
And on the flip-side I've seen non-smokers spend longer than your smokers in the kitchen ('office cooler') talking about random crap that is not work related while they're "making coffee."
On the plus side however, at least when they're doing that, they're not doing it near my desk annoying the fuck out of me like two of them are doing at the moment...
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What is Jew talk?
Start reading here to find out:
https://what.thedailywtf.com/t/fire-if-columbus-was-locked-in-a-fox-with-a-can-of-joan-of-arc-beans-he-would-invest-in-jpm-while-drinking-a-lambic/52835/4075?u=boomzilla
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But I do find it unfair I am not allowed a 10 minute break to take my pain medication on those days - I should pick up smoking I guess.
That is certainly unfair. I've worked in jobs where break times were formalized and the same for everyone, and those where they weren't. I've never seen smokers get special treatment like you describe. Do they track your time in the ladies room, too?
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Then they're taking the piss and should be slapped down, or at least spoken to. I'm out of my chair for at most 5 minutes at a time, 3-4 times a day, and 'lunch break' usually consists (my choice) of me sitting at my desk usually doing something work-related.
Do you also lug a ball and chain by your leg while you're at it?
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At least at my place the smokers disappear for 15 minutes 4 times a day aside from their lunch break.
But I do find it unfair I am not allowed a 10 minute break to take my pain medication on those days - I should pick up smoking I guess.
Are you actually told not to take a 10 minute break?
If not, just take a 10 minute break.
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I'm out of my chair for at most 5 minutes at a time, 3-4 times a day, and 'lunch break' usually consists (my choice) of me sitting at my desk usually doing something work-related.
That's... unhealthy. For any number of reasons.And on the flip-side I've seen non-smokers spend longer than your smokers in the kitchen ('office cooler') talking about random crap that is not work related while they're "making coffee."
In Germany, if your work mostly consists of staring at a screen, you are actually entitled to having short breaks like that. By law.On the plus side however, at least when they're doing that, they're not doing it near my desk [annoying the fuck out of me][1] like two of them are doing at the moment...
Yeah, fuck that. But shouting "Get a room, you two!" usually helps.
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> I'm out of my chair for at most 5 minutes at a time, 3-4 times a day, and 'lunch break' usually consists (my choice) of me sitting at my desk usually doing something work-related.
That's... unhealthy. For any number of reasons.
- I'm not interested in anti-smoker rants.
- I'm out of my chair more than 3-4 times a day. It's just that 3-4 of them involve going outside and partaking of the diesel particulates that are emitted from the traffic that passes my building, as well as the purported reason for my being there.
- And 'lunch break' is when (apart from the couple of hours in the morning when there's few around) the office is reasonably distraction free since all the non-smokers have gone out to get their own diesel particulates. I don't necessarily have my lunch then (since I'm usually in the office earlier than others, it gets eaten earlier than 'lunch.')
> And on the flip-side I've seen non-smokers spend longer than your smokers in the kitchen ('office cooler') talking about random crap that is not work related while they're "making coffee."
In Germany, if your work mostly consists of staring at a screen, you are actually entitled to having short breaks like that. By law.
My other 'short breaks' involve going to the kitchen and making some coffee, or queueing up at the toilet to get rid of some of the previous coffee. These too, take less than five minutes (well except perhaps the toilet one if I'm desperate and there really is a queue.)
Their kitchen conversations about what happened on
$SOAP_OPERAor$COUNTRY_HAS_NO_TALENTlast night on the other hand take at least 1/2 an hour. Each.Yeah, fuck that. But shouting "Get a room, you two!" usually helps.
"Excuse me - could you lot have your meeting.....
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      in a meeting room please?"
... is what I'd like to say after they've been talking for 5 minutes. Loudly.
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- I'm not interested in anti-smoker rants.
Eh?I'm out of my chair more than 3-4 times a day.
Okay. It just sounded like you were @obeselymorbid's cousin or something.And 'lunch break' is when (apart from the couple of hours in the morning when there's few around) the office is reasonably distraction free since all the non-smokers have gone out to get their own diesel particulates. I don't necessarily have *my lunch* then (since I'm usually in the office earlier than others, it gets eaten earlier than 'lunch.')
Fair enough.On a related note, I like my single office with a door that's almost soundproof :-P
Their kitchen conversations about what happened on `$SOAP_OPERA` or `$COUNTRY_HAS_NO_TALENT` last night on the other hand take at least 1/2 an hour. Each.
Okay, that's extreme. And boring."Excuse me - could you lot have your meeting.....
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      in a meeting room please?"
... is what I'd like to say after they've been talking for 5 minutes. Loudly.
So why don't you?
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So why don't you?
A passive-aggressive alternative would be to turn on some music or talk radio whenever it begins.
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"Excuse me - could you lot have your meeting.....
in a meeting room please?"... is what I'd like to say after they've been talking for 5 minutes. Loudly.
Then do so. I find it tends to be pretty effective in getting the impromptu meeting moved and/or rescheduled to a meeting room.
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A passive-aggressive alternative would be to turn on some music or talk radio whenever it begins.
Nothing says "fuck you all and your stupid banter" quite like a pair of solid, noise cancelling headphones.
Mine even have talkthrough for when I suspect people of talking behind my back.
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Nothing says "
fuck you all andcarry on with your stupid banter" quite like a pair of solid, noise cancelling headphones.Well, unless you sing along with your music while listening.
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Well, unless you sing along with your music while listening.
Pfft. Or:
Or on their own ear phones, listening to their music, and are pretending they're in the band they're listening to and using their desk as a percussive instrument. Loudly. For the duration of the song.
.. for every song. But then again - in the situation there, they were totally oblivious to everyone else, not doing it to get others to bugger off.
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Or take up that biro-clicking marathon training again.
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Well, unless you sing along with your music while listening.
No, singing is what I do when I'm driving and nothing else worked to keep me awake.
\At work, staying awake is not a priority.\
At least, not to the point where distracting everyone else is a problem.
A little 15 min power nap in the car and just stay a few minutes later than I planned usually sorts that out.
For some strange reason, napping in the car is acceptable, whereas at your desk is not. I fail to see what the problem is, because I measure my diligence by the work I get done.
I have to hand it to Mexico with their siestas. They got the right idea.
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For some strange reason, napping in the car is acceptable, whereas at your desk is not. I fail to see what the problem is, because I measure my diligence by the work I get done.
I'll have to try that. Problem is that I have the luxury of a reserved parking space where my colleagues still would see me. Might have to drive somewhere else first.I have to hand it to Mexico with their siestas. They got the right idea.
The climate probably helps ;)
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I'll have to try that. Problem is that I have the luxury of a reserved parking space where my colleagues still would see me. Might have to drive somewhere else first.
If people can't respect that a power nap makes you more productive, because they're more paranoid about looking productive, then your co-workers opinions are pretty useless.
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Or on their own ear phones, listening to their music, and are pretending they're in the band they're listening to and using their desk as a percussive instrument. Loudly. For the duration of the song.
.. for every song. But then again - in the situation there, they were totally oblivious to everyone else, not doing it to get others to bugger off.
The more you talk about your coworkers, the more I think you need to bar the doors to keep them inside and set the building on fire.
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Nothing says "fuck you all and your stupid banter" quite like a pair of solid, noise cancelling headphones.
Mine even have talkthrough for when I suspect people of talking behind my back.
I once worked in an open office where I put in earplugs, and then added airplane-tarmac strength ear protection on top. It nearly blocked out everything. Nearly. Noise cancelling headphones did nothing to stem the loudness.
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What is Jew talk?
@boomzilla is pretending to engage in a racist stereotype that Jews are cheapskates.
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In Germany, if your work mostly consists of staring at a screen, you are actually entitled to having short breaks like that. By law.
The last time I needed to pay attention I was in high school. I don't know if this was state (Massachusetts) or federal law--probably the former--but employees were entitled to 5 minutes of (paid?) break per hour as long as they worked at least 4 hours in a day, and employers (at least the ones I worked for) made sure you took at least two 15-minute breaks if you worked an 8-hour shift.
I know that doesn't add up. You have to factor lunch into the mix, and it was like 30 years ago and I don't remember every detail, but the point was there was a legally mandated amount of break time.
People who took double their allotted break time wouldn't last long.
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I don't know if this was state (Massachusetts) or federal law--probably the former--but employees were entitled to 5 minutes of (paid?) break per hour as long as they worked at least 4 hours in a day, and employers (at least the ones I worked for) made sure you took at least two 15-minute breaks if you worked an 8-hour shift.
It was state law. Federal law does not even really provide for meal breaks IIRC.
Simple problem to solve though, don't work for total assholes. ;)
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I'm not interested in anti-smoker rants.
That's not how I read that. If you only moved from your chair for 20 minutes in an 8-hour day (plus lunch) you're probably not doing your health any favors.
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So why don't you?
At a guess, either he doesn't want to sound like an asshole, or if they actually did move off into meeting rooms, management might have to notice their slacking off and discipline them.
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Simple problem to solve though, don't work for total assholes.
Right. My company mandates a 1-hour lunch break. (As in, you're not allowed to skip it and then go home earlier than you would have.) Since we're roughly speaking, all competent adults who get our jobs done, they don't worry about a bit of kibitzing in the hallways about The Walking Dead or sports or whatever, as long as it's not happening right outside someone's office who's busy.
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People who took double their allotted break time wouldn't last long.
That's what happens when the government makes hard-fast rules thinking it's helping you.
Business say, "Fuck it", and do the least they can, but then also keep extra eyes on it, because entitlements.
I prefer to just work at places where there is mutual trust and respect.
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@PJH said:
I'm not interested in anti-smoker rants.
That's not how I read that. If you only moved from your chair for 20 minutes in an 8-hour day (plus lunch) you're probably not doing your health any favors.
Which was addressed in my other points....
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At a guess, either he doesn't want to sound like an asshole
If he used his version, I don't think he would.
A sign "The meeting room is
" would also work as a passive-aggressive way.
or if they actually did move off into meeting rooms, management might have to notice their slacking off and discipline them.
So? If they are inconsiderate enough to disturb his productivity, we should he be the considerate one?
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Which was addressed in my other points
Yes, I was just saying I didn't think what he said was such a rant.
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Yes, I was just saying I didn't think what he said was such a rant.
Because it wasn't.
