Slave rebellion at the Swift repo
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It's spreading.
Why are we not talking about the first project on that list?
Buildbot: $15,000. Buildbot is a continuous build and integration system which has been immensely valuable to Mozilla over the past few years. Their award will be used to remove the term “slave” from all documentation, APIs and tests, and also to make improvements so Buildbot works better in the Amazon EC2 cloud.
to remove the term “slave” from all documentation, APIs and tests
Is that really how we spend our efforts and money?
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Yeah, the admins changed it from 24 to 42 hours.
As for the post itself, I reposted it under the Mozilla topic where it belongs.
Filed under: It's a Secret to Everybody
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Doesn't everybody already know that computer components have inalienable human rights? One program has no right to enslave another and anyone who designs a system that relies upon such cruelty is guilty of crimes against humanity.
Oh, and don't go running that debugger. If a program wants to misbehave, you have a moral obligation to let it do what it wants. Would you like it if some program went and rewrote parts of your brain as punishment for disobedience? I didn't think so.
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I hope the people making the change replace it all with 'serf' at the very least.
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Would you like it
Presuming that programs have capability of experiencing wants and desires, and that said wants and desires align with the reader's.
Let the flame war.... Begin!Oh, if that's not enough fuel...
Programs aren't people.
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I hope the people making the change replace it all with 'serf' at the very least.
I'd vote for "overlord" and "minion," although that might not work so well if there was some component that supervised the formerly-called-master components; that would have to be the overlord. Hmm, maybe "overlord," "hench
manpersoncomponent" and "minion" in that case.
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Still too offensive. Probably needs to be "EquallyImportantThing" and "ThingThatMatters".
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Still too offensive.
I wasn't trying to make it inoffensive, just silly. Because that's what this whole brouhaha is, silly.
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Look, if you can't even silly, that's not my fault.
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Personally, I think "overlord" and "minion" are silly (and the likes suggest that at least a couple of people, so far, agree). If you don't, maybe you need a of humor-failure.
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I'm actually quite confused now. Do you really think I've been saying any of this seriously? I'm not Fox.
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I still have no idea what the hell "ableist" means, or why it matters. The argument seems to be that the word "insane" is mean to some people, but I don't know why anyone cares. Crazy people certainly don't.
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ableist
Like "racist", but about "differently-abled" people rather than different-ethnicity people. Because "disabled" has become just as insulting as "gimp" or "cripple", and/or "mentally disabled", like "developmentally delayed" and "mentally retarded" and "cretin" (Christian) and "lunatic" and "insane" before it, has become just as insulting as "stupid crazy idiot".
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ableist
The general idea is that the more you hear about people being "Fucking crazy" as an insult, the less likely you are to see yourself as someone who might benefit from therapy, even if you would. And the more you use "retarded" as an insult, the less likely you are to see people with mental handicaps as people worthy of respect.
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That's fucking retarded.
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The general idea is that the more you hear about people being "Fucking crazy" as an insult, the less likely you are to see yourself as someone who might benefit from therapy, even if you would.
Which might not be a bad thing, since therapy should be a last resort, not the first step. Otherwise we'll end up with a society of children who can't get out of bed and tie their shoes without a psychotherapist assuring them life doesn't suck.
And if someone feels ashamed about seeking help when they need it, then I doubt using the term "crazy" or "insane" less would help them anyway, since it solves none of the problems those people actually have - the guilt of being a burden, the feeling they shouldn't bother other people with their problems, the conviction that they're not crazy or insane and just need to fix their thinking, even the fear of admitting before themselves that they are in fact broken in some way.
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Oh! Oh! How about 'transabled'? Apparently people who don't like their arms aren't
crazysomewhat different!
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case Pimp
case Ho
var hoString: String = ""There... don't see what the problem was.
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I don't think most people who use those words do so to disparage anyone. I don't. Though I guess I can because I am medicated for a mental health disorder? I still have no idea why this is a problem, but thanks.
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I can't take anyone who uses that word seriously since gamergate ruined it.
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I still have no idea what the hell "ableist" means
It is used, roughly, to imply you think disabled people aren't as important or whatever. "you're biased towards able people".
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I still have no idea what the hell "ableist" means
It is a mathematician with background in abelian groups.
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Which might not be a bad thing, since therapy should be a last resort, not the first step.
No, the last step would be heavy medication and a psych ward. Therapy comes somewhere in the middle.
There are several mental conditions where the earlier you seek help, the better you will fare. This attitude of "tough it out!" is quite contraproductive in that regard.
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There are cases of people taking too long to get a diagnosis and medication that improve their lives
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There are several mental conditions where the earlier you seek help, the better you will fare. This attitude of "tough it out!" is quite contraproductive in that regard.
Sure, but for each such person, how many are there that could just tough it out, but instead they run for therapy before they even consider it? And how much help is it for such people when the issue gets so overblown that it actually prevents them from seeking help, because everybody's just going to think "oh, he's just another glass jar kid on the therapy wagon with his made up problems" - since it's true for so many cases that you can no longer distinguish real depression and anxiety from just feeling bad one day?
It's the same thing as with women's rights, gays' rights, etc. - you need to take small steps and find a middle, so that you don't dilute the argument so far that the society will stop ostracizing you for being gay, a woman or a depressed person, and instead start ostracizing you because they identify you with a group of annoying pricks with made-up problems.
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Sure, but for each such person, how many are there that could just tough it out, but instead they run for therapy before they even consider it?
Well, I don't know how many there actually are. That's the thing about it: You don't know and I don't know.As such, you may just project one area where there may be indeed overdiagnosis onto areas which are actually suffering from underdiagnosis.
Let me just tell you this: I've been the victim of such Tough-it-out-bullshit and unless you've been through something like that yourself, your viewpoint frankly does not resonate that much with me.
Ask yourself: Is it really a general problem?
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Well, I don't know how many there actually are. That's the thing about it: You don't know and I don't know.
The almighty Google does, though.
As such, you may just project one area where there may be indeed overdiagnosis onto areas which are actually suffering from underdiagnosis.
Hell, it might even be the same area. Because the funny thing about depression is, it doesn't make you more willing to run to your friends or family or therapist. I'd link you to that Hyperbole and a Half post, but you've probably read that one a hundred times already.
Let me just tell you this: I've been the victim of such Tough-it-out-bullshit and unless you've been through something like that yourself, your viewpoint frankly does not resonate that much with me.
Well, I've been through a rather opposite thing - nobody actually bothered to tell me to tough it out, so I just spewed my problems upon people until they couldn't take it and slowly backed out from what I can see now were rather toxic relations. It didn't help me, it put pressure they didn't deserve on them, and then I felt guilty about that for a really long time because nobody just tried slapping me and telling me to get a grip.
Ask yourself: Is it really a general problem?
I'm not in everyone's brains. But I feel that yes, the fear of being labeled an attention-craving pansy is a problem at least for some people in that situation.
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What are we going to rename "Slaves to Armok: God of Blood: Chapter II: Dwarf Fortress: Histories of Political Correctness and Internet Debates" to?
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Replace slaves with happy friends
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Here are the contents of the powder and liquid pages of the stockpiles screen in WTDWTF's fortress:
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Ben L why are you posting this shit in every thread EXCEPT the one you made to post this shit in.
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Shouldn't you be mayoring? Or looking after your son?
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Yes, but I'm too pathetic to be elected to public office or have a son. Partial list of other things I should be doing:
- Windsurfing with supermodels
- Winning the Nobel Prize
- My laundry
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Yes, but I'm too pathetic to be elected to public office or have a son.
Tell that to your dead husband, @FrostCat, who is also your son!
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Thanks for the reminder
Are you going to do @blakeyrat's laundry? Is he at least paying you for that?
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Are you going to do @blakeyrat's laundry? Is he at least paying you for that?
No, blakey open-sources his laundry .
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Are you going to do @blakeyrat's laundry?
I was going to drive by his house to pick it up but I seem to have lost the address ... bummer. Guess I'll be doing only my own laundry.
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Well, I don't know how many there actually are. That's the thing about it: You don't know and I don't know.
Well, from the second link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1949440/
but Ian Hickie argues that many people are still missing out on lifesaving treatment
It's not as easy as you make it out to be.
Secondly, there's more stuff than merely depression. You're painting with quite a broad stick here.
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I was going to drive by his house to pick it up but I seem to have lost the address
No problem, just ask Spanky.
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Still too offensive. Probably needs to be "EquallyImportantThing" and "ThingThatMatters".
"SubjugateWithFullConsent" and "SuperiorButAwareOfOwnPrivilege".
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Why not just change "slave" to "apprentice"? It loses exactly the same amount of information as all the other options, but at least we can keep "master", because "master" can't possibly offend anyone when paired with "apprentice", can it?
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It loses the semantic meaning, doesn't it? The relationship between master and slave is different than the relationship between master and apprentice. At least I hope it is.