Don't drink and vote, you might spill your drink on the public hospital's lawn
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Can't I just keep my shit?
I believe the Surgeon General advises against the long-term storage of fecal matter in a residential household
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And I just saw that... uh, WTF? Why?
Trade protectionism, of course. By destroying a significant portion of the crop, you can force the price of the good higher.
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I believe the Surgeon General advises against the long-term storage of fecal matter in a residential household
GODDAMN NANNY STATE DOCTORS
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Ah... right. I guess the better question is WHY THE ■■■■■■■ DOES IT STILL EXIST...
Because no government ever gets rid of a program on its own initiative! The Universal Service Fee levied on telephone lines in the US was originated to pay for the Spanish-American war.
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You do know I was talking about the US Surgeon General?
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You do know I was talking about the US Surgeon General?
Of course. You guys would call the position the Minister for Health Nagging or something.
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Tell me, how do you like getting a bill every time you see your doctor?
Anyone with a compliant insurance plan doesn't get a bill every time they go to the doctor. Well visits are required to be free, and you can do health checkups as often as you like. As for the other visits? Those we pay for, and I'm ok with that.
My insurance coverage costs me ~$800/month for my entire family. I know what my health costs are. Do you know how much your "free" health care costs you?
What about when you need to go to A&E, and they save your life, then issue you with a bill for $50,000?
Well, I pay $6,000 ($5,000 deductible, plus an additional $1,000 out of pocket maximum) and my insurance pays the rest. Since my employer provides A&E coverage for free (expanded to my entire family for $12/month), I would be at least partially reimbursed and the total amount out of my pocket would depend on the actual injury.
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The Universal Service Fee levied on telephone lines in the US was originated to pay for the Spanish-American war.
It has been mostly repealed. Mostly.
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I vote for every single one and can't remember the last time one passed.
You're like that woman from Austin who was proud of the fact that she voted for every civic improvement who came down the pike, but can't understand why her property taxes are so high.
Of course, the fact that the local school district is so starved for money that they've canceled the busing for anyone <2 miles from school
In the US, no school district buses anyone who lives that close.
I bet the district's not REALLY starved for funds. I bet the football players have plenty of money.
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Tell me, how do you like getting a bill every time you see your doctor?
What have you got against paying for services received? Your question is identical to "tell me, how do you like having to pay every time you buy food?"
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My rough estimate
20% of their taxes minimum.
They don't have the same military budget.
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But food is essential, and health services are essential.
They're nothing alike.
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Of course. You guys would call the position the Minister for Health Nagging or something.
*watches the go past*
Chief Medical Officer is our term
@FrostCat said:What have you got against paying for services received?
Nothing. I just prefer the peace-of-mind that my medical expenses (well, a very large portion of them anyway) are already covered before I set paw in a hospital
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Do you know how much your "free" health care costs you?
Yes - it says right on my payslip every month.
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In the US, no school district buses anyone who lives that close.
Sure they do. In my district, it's 1 mile for elementary and 1.5 for middle and high schools. That's measured based on the shorted safe walking route. Supposedly they actually walk the routes to figure it out.
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Over here, private insurance is optional; the state-funded NHS covers most things already.
Yeah, just not for drugs for macular degeneration until you've already lost an eye: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-122995/You-blind-eye-NHS-treat-you.html
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Does he do anything useful? Ours doesn't.
No - might as well have "Executive" in his title.
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I just prefer the peace-of-mind that my food expenses (well, a very large portion of them anyway) are already covered before I set paw in a grocery store
Says the welfare queen with 10 children on foodstamps.
Of course you like peace of mind.
That's the European preference.
I like being able to pay up to the level of care I want, and have coverage for emergencies.
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It has been mostly repealed. Mostly.
I see what you wrote, but what I got is "it hasn't been repealed", a.k.a. "FrostCat was right."
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My insurance coverage costs me ~$800/month for my entire family
Costs you = total cost ?
(Actual question.) That's substantially lower than the cost of my insurance for my family, although same order-of-magnitude.
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Does he do anything useful? Ours doesn't.
No idea. But she's been awarded plenty of awards:
No - might as well have "Executive" in
hisher title.
FTFY ;)
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I see what you wrote, but what I got is "it hasn't been repealed", a.k.a. "FrostCat was right."
Mostly. I wonder how many people actually pay the tax these days?
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FTFY
Whatever
Point still stands.edit: Oooh, honorary degree from the University of Lincoln. You go, girlfriend.
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Sure they do. In my district, it's 1 mile for elementary and 1.5 for middle and high schools. That's measured based on the shorted safe walking route. Supposedly they actually walk the routes to figure it out.
Ah, fascinating, I've never lived anywhere it was less than 2 miles. One of my cow-orkers is fighting with the school district because her kid is at 1.999 miles or something, while apparently the kid next door is over the 2-mile limit and can get the bus.
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Says the welfare queen with 10 children on foodstamps
The number of assumptions in that statement is astounding…The only explanation is your post is basically this:
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honorary degrees
Hah.... she was knighted by a bunch of deans that don't necessarily have to do professional work in their field, and thus don't know the life-or-death decisions of a real hospital.
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That's substantially lower than the cost of my insurance for my family, although same order-of-magnitude.
You live in a crazy blue state, though.
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Costs you = total cost ?
(Actual question.) That's substantially lower than the cost of my insurance for my family, although same order-of-magnitude.
I woudl guess, with a $6K deductible, he has a high-deductible health plan, maybe coupled with an HSA. They have lower premiums.
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The number of assumptions in that statement is astounding…
Those weren't assumptions of yourself.
I was making a comparison.
Sorry I wasn't clear.
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I've always wondered if a government that allowed everybody to vote constantly would solve most of the problems.
It would create a whole slew of other problems. Just to shoot this idea down quick and easy, here are some options for voting:
- Vote blind on an issue because you don't really know enough about it.
- Don't vote on an issue because you don't really know enough about it.
- Thoroughly research every issue so you can vote in an informed manner and have no time for work or a social life.
A large number of people would chose 1 and 2, neither of which is a good idea. those who choose 3 no longer become involved in society and can't really measure how their choices effect the world around them.
In other words: NO.
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Mostly. I wonder how many people actually pay the tax these days?
IIRC "everyone who has AT&T or Verizon wireless" even though IIRC the tax was phased out for cell phones, and they just pocket the money now.
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Pfft. By posting her name you ruined the "guess a gender and win the prize" game.
Because "female" was not my first guess.
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You're like that woman from Austin who was proud of the fact that she voted for every civic improvement who came down the pike, but can't understand why her property taxes are so high.
Nope. I'm aware my property taxes will go up (By 1.5% IIRC). I'm well aware of that, and I feel the tradeoff of having good schools is undoubtably worth it.
@FrostCat said:In the US, no school district buses anyone who lives that close.
False, they did. Most of the ones around here do. The local public transit leaves much to be desired and there are a lot of working parents, so it's pretty much a necessity. Unless you want kids to be walking 2 miles to school.
@FrostCat said:I bet the district's not REALLY starved for funds. I bet the football players have plenty of money.
No, actually they don't. The football program is the only sport that's funded, and they still show up every year selling candy for donations. Something like half of the teachers have been laid off too. We haven't passed any kind of funding increase for something like 10 years, but when the whole economic slowdown/recession/housing crunch hit, it took a major chunk out of the school funding.
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One of my cow-orkers is fighting with the school district because her kid is at 1.999 miles or something, while apparently the kid next door is over the 2-mile limit and can get the bus.
Literally
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One of my cow-orkers is fighting with the school district because her kid is at 1.999 miles or something, while apparently the kid next door is over the 2-mile limit and can get the bus.
My MIL used to run the transportation department for a school district. That shit gets super crazy.
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Yeah...looks like an advisor, just like ours.
Well, yeah, that's what the position is
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Thousands of patients will be condemned to blindness because of a
decision to ration the NHS treatment which could save their sight
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-122995/You-blind-eye-NHS-treat-you.html#ixzz3ZThuWvNLThat's the point.
When healthcare is free it is rationed based on availability only, and not the patients desire to pay for services.
But what if they were poor and couldn't afford to pay?
Either way they won't receive health care.
You don't care about the poor.
You know, allowing some people who can pay to get treatment that would be completely prohibited otherwise, isn't a lack of mercy for the poor. Complete restriction even prohibits a charity from sponsoring someone.
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So having only rich people have the ability to see is so obviously a better solution, yes?
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As opposed to no one? Sure. Even with your question begging.
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he has a high-deductible health plan, maybe coupled with an HSA
And so do I... ;)
You live in a crazy blue state, though.
But am employed in your crazy purple state.
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Costs you = total cost ?
No, my employer pays about $200/month on top of that.
I woudl guess, with a $6K deductible, he has a high-deductible health plan, maybe coupled with an HSA. They have lower premiums.
Yes, but I'm also part of a group plan where the average age is over 50 and more than half of those enrolled are smokers or have other high-risk health indicators.
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I'm not saying they're doing what's best (that situation may very well be a bureaucratic WTF -pile), but our way of doing things isn't exactly the best either
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...but our way of doing things isn't exactly the best either
I have a ton of criticisms for our system.
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Gonna need a transcript, I'm kinda not able to watch youtube at the moment...
Filed Under: Work is a barrier to doing non-work things
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I'm sooooo..... tired of that being the retort.
Current alternatives.
- Only poor old people with problem go blind.
- All old people with problem go blind.
I'm not saying we can't make a new alternative.
Just saying that the proposed #2 alternative isn't an improvement.
The reality of the situation is that we simply don't have the economic resources to make "No old people go blind" a possibility. The services will get rationed one way or the other.
But the article is demonstrating that this is nothing more than school-child "but it ain't fair" behavior that leads to "this is why we can't have good things".
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Well, from a societal standpoint, it may actually be a better outcome.
It sounds harsh (inb4 death panels), but dumping huge amounts of money into a problem that only affects the elderly is not exactly the best use of funds...