🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD
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CSV's weird, but nothing wrong with making a resume in Excel or PowerPoint.
Hell, you can just embed a Word resume in Excel and bam, done.
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Microsoft drops unlimited OneDrive storage after people use it for unlimited storage
Hey, stupido. Just borrow some of that zigaspace NSA has in Utah. They want access to the files, and you're already handing them over anyway, so might as well just commit it there. Way I hear it, 75 TiB is about a seconds worth of budget for them, they'll hardly notice.
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CSV's weird, but nothing wrong with making a resume in Excel or PowerPoint.
Sure, and there's nothing wrong with using an old shoe or a glass bottle as a hammer either, but it's not the best tool for the job.
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Pretty sure I'd prefer a key-value--pair based CV over those essay-based ones...
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Applying multiculturalism to to weights and measures.
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Pretty sure I'd prefer a key-value--pair based CV over those essay-based ones...
I can actually see the outlines of an argument for such a thing, and then I contemplate the process of defining the spec, and I reach for one of @accalia's do not want macros.
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I'm not sure if this is quite the right topic, but whatever.
You take resumes in Excel/CSV format? In Powerpoint?!
Resumes that aren't doc, docx, or pdf should go straight in the trash.
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At least you could immediately detect and filter out candidates that are unable to follow a spec based on their CV.
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esumes that aren't doc, docx, or pdf should go straight in the trash.
If you don't mind .doc[x], you have no reason to object to RTF. Nothing wrong with .txt, really, either, unless you feel fonts are more important than information.
In certain cases I can see an argument for PPT--maybe someone applying for an artsy position, where they want to showcase a mini-portfolio.
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At least you could immediately detect and filter out candidates that are unable to follow a spec based on their CV.
Oh, sure.
I'm annoyed, a little, by that site's application process--the first question is "do you have an undergraduate degree and what was your GPA"? You can go on without answering "yes"--it's not an absolute filter--but it doesn't account for people who, say, have 20 years of experience but for raisins stopped college 2 classes short of their degree.
And on page 2, they want your current and expected salary. And no, the latter's not a range. Asking for that up front's not cool.
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If you don't mind .doc[x], you have no reason to object to RTF.
A resume in RTF is sort of like an AOL contact email. It says "technologically impaired".
Nothing wrong with .txt, really, either, unless you feel fonts are more important than information.
In the same way that there's nothing wrong with a candidate who shows up for their professional job interview in a wife-beater, shorts, and crocs.
In certain cases I can see an argument for PPT--maybe someone applying for an artsy position, where they want to showcase a mini-portfolio.
I'll give you that, but if so, why not just open the floodgates all the way and allow SWF as well?
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Z Nation is a treasure trove in some ways.
**Bad idea:**strong text a post-apocalyptic traveling dentist, just like an ice cream truck. In fact, it was playing the ice cream truck song.
ETA: a thing they've done a couple times now is mess with the opening music: in this episode, which takes place along the Mighty Mississipp', probably around Kentucky, they redid the music in a countryish style.
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have 20 years of experience but for raisins stopped college 2 classes short of their degree.
Or are like, "WTF was my GPA? That was fucking decades ago!"
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Sure, and there's nothing wrong with using an old shoe or a glass bottle as a hammer either, but it's not the best tool for the job.
Since you can embed a Word doc in an Excel worksheet, THERE IS LITERALLY NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A RESUME IN DOCX AND ONE IN XLSX.
So you are an ugly gorilla who smells like a butt and I don't mean the good-smelling parts of the butt.
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Since you can embed a Word doc in an Excel worksheet, THERE IS LITERALLY NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A RESUME IN DOCX AND ONE IN XLSX.
You're the kind of person who pastes screenshots into Word documents before attaching the latter into emails, aren't you, you son of a bitch.
I don't mean the good-smelling parts of the butt.
Most people wouldn't admit to knowing about the variously-smelling parts of the butt firsthand.
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aren't you
And since he'll probably go Drax (and because it's remotely possible someone else might not get what I meant), I'll point out there's no good reason to embed a Word resume inside an Excel spreadsheet. Just send the Word doc.
There's no good reason to have the Excel document itself be the resume, either, even--perhaps especially--if you're the kind of person to laboriously build a creaky and overly-complex spreadsheet to run a business function instead of using a real program.
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Since you can embed a Word doc in an Excel worksheet, THERE IS LITERALLY NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A RESUME IN DOCX AND ONE IN XLSX.
Out of curiosity - would that work even if you have only Excel (but not Word) installed on your machine?
(For instance, I have only Powerpoint on my personal laptop, which means that I can't open ordinary .doc[x] or .xls[x] files. But could I view a .ppt[x] that embeds one of those?)
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No.
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Or are like, "WTF was my GPA? That was fucking decades ago!"
3.773 out of 4. If you restrict it to classes in my major and minors, it was 4.000 out of 4.
The degree was dated 1979.
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Markdown Resumes are the future, man!
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Can't wait for a chance to yell at a candidate because they used Pandoc instead of CommonMark!
Filed under: Number 2 pencil for the next 10 years!
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Pretty sure I'd prefer a key-value--pair based CV over those essay-based ones...
Allow me to refer you to:tecnhically not JS but JSON.... still
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So I guess FBI is teaching kiddies how to identify terrorists now, and as I understand it, one of the games is to identify which of several posts should cause alarm. So let's play (disclaimer: this was made up by me).
Which of the following postings should raise greatest alarm:
- Jason Jones: Gonna go to the Democrat rally tonight and do a little "trophy" hunting.
- Abd al Jabbar: I'm flying to Egypt tomorrow to visit my family.
- Joseph Strand: We're planning to drop by the local mosque tonight. Have some dynamite and plan to give them a hot bang surprise present.
- Robert Thacker: We got a real good deal on two gross of AK-47s, which we needed right away.
[spoiler]The correct answer would be (2) -- he's obviously a raving lunatic Muslim rag head, because of the name, and he's going overseas on a mission.[/spoiler]
Sometimes the FBI is dumber than a bag of rocks.
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Sometimes the FBI is dumber than a bag of rocks.
Yes, if they're following your lead, I'd certainly agree.
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... or used a font other than Comic Sans.
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At least its not Tahoma!
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Bah. We should all use assba, khuep, stadion, and li for distance; loan, rood, and cho for area; Planck masses, shekels and maund for mass; batman and ale kilderkin for liquid volumes; keddah for dry volume; and sticks for force.
But it's Inclusive! How can that be a bad thing
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3.773 out of 4. If you restrict it to classes in my major and minors, it was 4.000 out of 4.
The degree was dated 1979.
Why is GPA out of 4? And how low does it get before it's considered a "bad" grade? How is it calculated? What's wrong with First, Second and Third class degrees like a sensible country?
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Why is GPA out of 4?
That's what it's always been, mapped to the normal grades, A = 4, B = 3, C = 2, D = 1, F = 0.
How is it calculated?
Mean.
What's wrong with First, Second and Third class degrees like a sensible country?
Stop with the moon language already.
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Mean
Sorry, I didn't intend to insult you. If you could answer the question without calling me mean that would be great
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@Jaloopa said:
How is it calculated?
Mean.
Ah, "mean" as in "pseudoscientific quackery with statistics"
Not that any nation with numerical grades is innocent of that...
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Ah, "mean" as in "pseudoscientific quackery with statistics"
Like....add them up and divide by how many there are?
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@Jaloopa said:
How is it calculated?
Mean.
It's the weighted mean, based on the number of credit hours for each class. So, a 3-credit-hour black history class only worth 3/5 as much as a 5-credit-hour class about the theories of some white Jewish guy.
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a 3-credit-hour black history class only worth 3/5 as much as a 5-credit-hour class about the theories of some white Jewish guy.
And once you reach the 3/5 you're kurobarred, right?
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And a 1-credit-hour lab course that takes up 6 hours of my week every week isn't worth showing up for.
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It's the weighted mean, based on the number of credit hours for each class
Yes, that's usually required at the college level. Also, there's pluses and minuses, so an A- might be 3.7 (or 3.8, or whatever). Apparently this stuff is just too complicated for Euros to get, though, so I didn't want to confuse them too much.
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@Rhywden said:
Ah, "mean" as in "pseudoscientific quackery with statistics"
Like....add them up and divide by how many there are?
Yes, that's the definition of how to calculate the mean. However, you're actually expressly forbidden to calculate the mean of numbers like grades.
The requirements for the numbers going into a mean-calculation are:
a) need to have a zero point
b) need to be equidistantThe grade "F" (or 0 (zero)) is not a zero point as it usually does not mean: "The pupil did not know anything" but instead means: "The pupil did not reach the threshold".
Grades are usually not equidistant because the "amount" of knowledge needed to go from F to D is not the same as from B to A.Grading numbers are in the same category, actually, as mere ordinal numbers - as in: This guy crossed the finish line 1st, this guy is 2nd place and so on.
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Most people wouldn't admit to knowing about the variously-smelling parts of the butt firsthand.
You know, this might come as a shocking revelation to you, but when one person loves another person very much, they occasionally get acquainted with each other's butts among other things.
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However, you're actually expressly forbidden to calculate the mean of numbers like grades.
No I'm not. Maybe you are.
Grades are usually not equidistant because the "amount" of knowledge needed to go from F to D is not the same as from B to A.
For the purposes of final grades and calculating GPA, yes, they are.
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I was wondering about that. But you could claim that grades are on an interval scale, can you not? (Don't remember if it will make any difference, though)
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@Rhywden said:
However, you're actually expressly forbidden to calculate the mean of numbers like grades.
No I'm not. Maybe you are.
So, you're now also defining mathematical laws and axioms. I'm impressed. Do you have a PhD in Number Theory?@Rhywden said:
Grades are usually not equidistant because the "amount" of knowledge needed to go from F to D is not the same as from B to A.
For the purposes of final grades and calculating GPA, yes, they are.
Suuuuure. Oh well, keep on believing. As usual, you're God when it comes to defining what it right and wrong - nevermind that someone actually had to study this stuff at university.
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I was wondering about that. But you could claim that grades are on an interval scale, can you not? (Don't remember if it will make any difference, though)
You can claim all you want - unless they actually are on an interval scale. But the usual threshold for a passing grade is something between 40% or 50% of points or whatever you use to keep score. That skews the scale right from the start.
Which means that the final grades are flawed. And the mean of a number of flawed grades is still flawed.
We have a saying in Germany:
Wer viel misst, misst meist Mist
Translated: "If you're measuring much, you're often measuring shit."
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So, you're now also defining mathematical laws and axioms. I'm impressed. Do you have a PhD in Number Theory?
mathematical laws? I was talking about how GPAs are calculated here. The letters stand for numbers, and the resulting GPA is a weighted average of those numbers. You can also take the resulting number and covert it into its letter equivalent.
It's...not very complicated, actually.
I don't have PhD in Number Theory, but I've studied it enough to know that you're TRWTF for thinking it has any application here.
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Yes, if they're following your lead, I'd certainly agree.
If you read the Techdirt article, you know that I was following their lead.
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If you read the Techdirt article, you know that I was following their lead.
I skimmed over it. I didn't notice anything as silly as what you posted, but I guess you were at least consistent in tone, for whatever Techdirt's take on things matters.
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@boomzilla said:
normal grades
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@Rhywden said:
So, you're now also defining mathematical laws and axioms. I'm impressed. Do you have a PhD in Number Theory?
mathematical laws? I was talking about how GPAs are calculated here. The letters stand for numbers, and the resulting GPA is a weighted average of those numbers. You can also take the resulting number and covert it into its letter equivalent.
It's...not very complicated, actually.
I don't have PhD in Number Theory, but I've studied it enough to know that you're TRWTF for thinking it has any application here.
Yes, I get it that they're "numbers". However, not all "numbers" are equal. If you actually studied that you should know that.
It's a reflex that's sadly not trained out of people: They treat all numbers as equal regardless of how they came about or what they stand for. A bunch of numbers? Quick, calculate the mean.
Even if the mean is actually meaningless.
Quick example: You have three grades, one in math, one in a language, one in sports. To make the problem more apparent, let's also make them equally weighted.
Pupil A: Math 1, language 2, sports 3
Pupil B: Math 2, language 2, sports 2
Pupil C: Math 3, language 2, sports 1All three have the same final grade: 2
In which world is that meaningful? Not to mention that the same flawed methodology is used to create those grades in the first place. And the mean of flawed numbers does not magically become non-flawed just because you define it as such.
That's what I meant by pseudo-scientific: You have stuff that looks like it adheres to scientific principles - you "measure" something, you calculate stuff by mathematical means.
In reality it's the same as with the Free Energy jokers and their Quantum Mechanics magic - you're using methods without understanding what they mean and how they should be applied. And as a result, you're blind to the dangers posed by those misapplied methods.
I mean, with Quantum Mechanics it's usually only the really gullible who are mislead because everyone else knows that this stuff is really difficult to understand.
That's the problem with the mean: It's so easy to apply that it's used as a hammer - and anything that looks like numbers is treated as a nail.
Oh well.
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In which world is that meaningful?
The world in which you're trying to compare them as overall students, not in any particular field. They're all equally good at being students: pretty shitty.