βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD
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While we are at it. What is it with turning indicators? If I "flick" (the stalk) mine they flash exactly four times, what fucking use is that? If I hold them on, they don't cancel so I have to "flick" them off. Now the idiot car thinks I am turning the other direction.
O.o?
HEY GUYS, I FOUND TRWTF!
If your turn signals don't behave according to the following spec, they are TRWTF.
- Flick blinker
- Blinker blinks indefinitely, unless...
- You turn the wheel far enough in the direction of turn, then turn it back, or...
- You manually flick it back.
- Fucking hell why does it insert a 5 when I typed 4???????
Time based turn signals? Insane.
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While we are at it. What is it with turning indicators? If I "flick" (the stalk) mine they flash exactly four times, what fucking use is that? If I hold them on, they don't cancel so I have to "flick" them off. Now the idiot car thinks I am turning the other direction.
Your car is broken. Or you live in a wierd fantasy land where all turns are less than 20 degrees-ish. Get it fixed.
Although the behavior you describe is also similar to what my dad's '65 Chevy S-10 does. (Again: not by design.)
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my dad's '65 Chevy S-10
This is (at least) the second time you've mentioned your dad's '65 S-10. However, the S-10 was introduced in 19821. So, is your dad's S-10 also a TARDIS?
1According to Wikipedia, chevrolet.com, carfax.com and other sites. s10extremist.org says it replaced the Isuzu-built Chevy LUV.
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Well, you can full-flick (until it jumps into a new stable position) and a-little-flick (in which case it reverts to neutral position) them in my car.
The former does the usual thing, with blink until it gets cancelled by a turn.
The latter only blinks a few times (5 or so?).Maybe @loose is just doing it wrong?
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While we are at it. What is it with turning indicators? If I "flick" (the stalk) mine they flash exactly four times, what fucking use is that? If I hold them on, they don't cancel so I have to "flick" them off. Now the idiot car thinks I am turning the other direction.
I've noticed it in many Volkswagen cars (Mainly VW Golf and Passat). I guess it's a feature for when you want to switch lanes or get out of a roundabout. I agree with you that it is confusing, but more so for your fellow trafficants than for the car.
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I've noticed it in many Volkswagen cars (Mainly VW Golf and Passat).
Actually, it's available in most Volkswagen Group cars.
Also, BMW.
Also also, Mercedes-Benz.Probably just a German thing!
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The former does the usual thing, with blink until it gets cancelled by a turn.
The latter only blinksa few times (5 or so?)while you hold it.FTF my experience with cars sold in the US (which does not include any German-made cars).
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FTF my experience with cars sold in the US
That matches my experience too (cars in the UK, Sweden, US and Spain). The blink-while-you-hold-it is useful for when you're changing lanes on the highway, where the amount you're turning is very subtle.
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You turn the wheel far enough in the direction of turn, then turn it back, or...
I hate this thing. I always turn the signal off manually, so it rarely ever does me a favour. But it always works against me when I try to signal that I will take the first exit on a roundabout.
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@loose said:
While we are at it. What is it with turning indicators? If I "flick" (the stalk) mine they flash exactly four times, what fucking use is that? If I hold them on, they don't cancel so I have to "flick" them off. Now the idiot car thinks I am turning the other direction.
Your car is broken.
Peugeots (at least some models) have this by design. No idea why.
Edit: or so I'm told. I haven't actually driven one.
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Just a few days ago I've ridden a motorbike which:
a) had no turn indicators on the dashboard
b) had a thumb switch for turn indicators that bounced back to the middle, and you had to "signal" the other way to disable it.So unless you can hear the indicators over the engine, it's a tossup whether you're disabling the indicator, or signaling the wrong way.
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Alternatively, you could stretch a bit to take a look at the lights...
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things that it "thinks" you need to know
That's more or less the Microsoft idea of being helpful, according to my experience.
That's what I found so odd... It beeps for heaps of things (or turns them off with the ignition) but not leaving the interior lights on.
My car (SEAT which is a Vokswagen by another name and a somewhat more moderate price) same, but it beeps when I leave the parking lights on.
What is it with turning indicators? If I "flick" (the stalk) mine they flash exactly four times, what fucking use is that? If I hold them on, they don't cancel so I have to "flick" them off. Now the idiot car thinks I am turning the other direction.
I fully agree. The (alleged) use of this is that many people neglect to properly indicate they want to switch lanes. But I don't remember I'd have been glad I had this feature even one time. OTOH, I hit the lever accidentally sometimes (e. g. turning the high beam off in a bend).
The former does the usual thing, with blink until it gets cancelled by a turn.
What kind of car do you have? The latch of the lever of my car is purely mechanical, to my experiences.
I'd like to switch off three of those very helpful hazards of my car: automatic flashing of the indicator (unless I can switch it off, e. g. by a pushbutton at the end of the lever), the anti-lock braking system (unless it can be persuaded to take back the brake momentum on the blocking wheel only - when in doubt, I find brakeability more important than steerability), and the touch response of my brake (the faster I push down the pedal, the more it brakes with the same amount of force and/or the same position of the pedal; this can be dangerous when I approach a queue before a red traffic light, still having the pedal position for a certain brake force in memory, and slowly push the pedal down to that position with a hardly perceivable result, which makes me to panic-brake. Probable use of this: Newbies, and especially women, are thought to brake too hesitantly when the best would be to jam the pedal to the floor)
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So unless you can hear the indicators over the engine, it's a tossup whether you're disabling the indicator, or signaling the wrong way.
Maybe it would help to push the switch right - right - left, or left - left - right?
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Nothing wrong with my car, not even the driver. I am almost prepared to pay for an all-expense trip for you to come over here and witness it.
The specific scenario is changing lanes on the motor way where indicated "turns" are less than 20Β° especially at high speeds. Incidentally, the cruise control almost always drops out on lane changes, the only (almost) consistent way I can avoid this is by not indicating.The effect of cruise control dropping out at speeds of 70mphish, is for there to be a significant drop in speed (no gas) in an incredibly short time.
In defence of @blakeyrat "knee jerk" reply: My car was one of the first produced of the then new version of the model. But then I don't really expect for it to be believed that such things (as cars) are issued with patches and updates.
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The latch of the lever of my car is purely mechanical, to my experiences.
Well, yeah.
The lever jumps back to normal position once the steering wheel turns far enough - i.e. cancels the setting.
And I have Komfortblinken in addition to that.
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The lever jumps back to normal position once the steering wheel turns far enough - i.e. cancels the setting.
(emphasis mine)that's not the same. To cancel the setting, it requires an additional notification of the electronics. I don't remember reliably whether it does that when the steering wheel unlatches the lever, but iirc, it does not in my car.
Edit: just tried it - it doesn't. (But it doesn't flash a third time if the lever is released (whether latched or not) after it flashed two times)
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The lever jumps back to normal position once the steering wheel turns far enough
On my current car, the level jumps back when the wheel is being reset to a straight position from making a turn. Most of the time that's OK, but there's a few corners where you have to hold the indicator down because they're effectively a double-apex corner. They're definitely a minority case.
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To cancel the setting, it requires an additional notification of the electronics.
You mean, it switches the circuit off?
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You mean, it switches the circuit off?
I don't quite understand.
If you mean it sets a flag that causes the
for (int i=0; i<3; i++)
loop tobreak;
or something semantically equivalent, then yes.I admit I didn't express myself clearly.
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I guess it's a C-10?
When I searched Google for Chevy 1965 S-10 the correct images come up, so I thought that was the correct model number. I did try to verify my memory was correct, I blame Google.
Whatever. Sorry I'm not super perfect memory challenge winning man.
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The specific scenario is changing lanes on the motor way where indicated "turns" are less than 20Β° especially at high speeds.
That's when you flick the signal in the direction you're going, you know, the 4 blink one. Why would you need more than 4 blinks to change lanes at high speeds? It blinks, you change lanes. If you're trying to signal so someone will make space for you to merge just latch the signal (assuming that even works in your part of the world... usually other drivers will just be extra careful not to let you in once you tip your hand like that).
Every car I've ever used had two ways to use the signal: push the lever lightly in the direction you wish to indicate, and the indicator will blink until you release the lever. Push the lever farther, until it clicks, and it'll signal until you make enough of a turn to unlatch it, or lightly push the lever unlatched... and I've never had a problem with doing that without also signalling the wrong direction. Maybe you're just pushing it too hard.
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bad idea: leaning over the railing on an upper deck. The Daily Mail drily notes that they did not stop the game.
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And here, we have the worst of ideas:
Not safe for work, not safe for home, not really safe for life.
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When I read your post, I initially thought that people paid tribute to him by also leaning over the railing.
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Against the spirit of the beef, too. Well, we can probably presume they're using the cuts that couldn't go anywhere else, like any good hot dog maker, but still.
So, they are probably still made with lips and assholes, but lips and assholes of much better cows?
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people paid tribute to him by also leaning over the railing.
"Think of it as evolution in action".
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Not only that, but let's pedantically point out that it is illegal to import Japanese beef into the US, so there is no genuine Kobe/Wagyu anything here.
Not only that, but let's pedantically point out that you are actually wrong:
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Not only that
Not only that, but you got d, bud. And what I wrote was correct at one point.
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The Daily Mail drily notes that they did not stop the game.
If it had been American Football, they wouldn't have even removed the corpse from the field.
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Also, from the article: "the total amount of Kobe beef shipped to the US through the first 11 months of 2013 was just 3,217 pounds or less than 300 pounds per months for the entire country."
So it's still essentially unavailable.
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If it had been American Football, they wouldn't have even removed the corpse from the field.
...assuming he even fell onto it; if you fall from a balcony in a major league sports stadium, you're not likely to reach the field unless you bounce a few times.
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So it's still essentially unavailable.
But pendantically, it is available.
what I wrote was correct at one point.
But not at the point that you said it, so there's that...
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THAT WAS A JOKE TOO YOU JOKE-POINTING-OUT DICKHOLE!
<joke>Oh wait that was Poly whatever his name is today. Well still. Jokes.
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THAT WAS A JOKE TOO YOU JOKE-POINTING-OUT DICKHOLE!
Oh wait that was Poly whatever his name is today. Well still. Jokes.
He's only changed his name once and that was like 8 months ago. For someone who complains so much about how much people read, at times you do an astoundingly poor job of paying attention to what goes on around you.
Perhaps this would help:
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I did try to verify my memory was correct, I blame Google.
Fair enough. I don't know what a C-10 is, and I don't care enough to search, but I knew the S-10 is a mini-pickup, which just seemed wrong for 1965.
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I don't understand why the C stands for "Custom" when Chevy stamped-out like 50,000 of the things.
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If I left the engine running in my car because of those, I wouldn't then turn around and try to sue VW for it.
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We can make up for that because of our history as a melting pot[1]. For example, within downtown Phoenix
I can find ethiopian, taiwanese, greek, mexican (that's a given), and moreit's just that fucking hot, man.FTFP
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I really CBA to reply
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Dammit discobug. Half way thru viewing I clicked the "2 Replies" button. Video stopped. Won't start (even after collapsing replies). Must reload page.
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says it replaced the Isuzu-built Chevy LUV.
Interesting side note from history, the Chevy LUV was a famous case of automakers circumventing the "chicken tax".
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"chicken, once internationally synonymous with luxury, became a staple food in the U.S."
Well, T.I.L.
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Well, T.I.L.
Did you know that lobster used to be extremely cheap, as most people refused to eat it? It was once akin to eating insects. Which...it kind of is.
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Did you know that lobster used to be extremely cheap, as most people refused to eat it?
No, but I find the stuff nasty and won't eat it if I have a choice.
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Didn't you live on the East coast at some point? Or am I mixed up here?
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Didn't you live on the East coast at some point?
Yes, until I was 30. We don't all love lobstah, you racist!