Blakeyrat pointing out NodeBB problems
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@Polygeekery Keep piling on. Please. Maybe call me, like, dumber than Rain Man or something. You can do better than that.
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@blakeyrat said:
Well go ahead just pile-on. It's 5:33 AM and already the worst day of my life. Make sure there's absolutely no doubt how stupid I am. Keep posting.
Ok, seriously dude, just relax. You are not stupid. People don't hate you. Things are not that tragic.
Even if you receive some alerts you don't like, you can still post stuff on the forum and talk with people. Even if you don't like the npm tool you're using, you are still doing intellectual job in a nice air-conditioned place and receive a huge paycheck. You're better off than 99.99% of humans who had ever lived.
Just relax and try to enjoy life. You don't need to get this upset about everything. I mean, maybe you're trolling, but if not, just... relax.
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@Polygeekery said:
When you are an asshole to other people, they are much more likely to be an asshole to you.
Sounds like a vicious cycle.
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@blakeyrat said:
If "how did this not come up" (or whatever I said exactly) is an insult, well, then all bets are off.
Ah, right, I forgot that you have so much difficulty communicating with the hoomans. Yes, you've been strongly implying that no one around here knows anything about software and certainly quality software. If you can't see the difference between:
How did you people not find this issue? This is awful! This software is unusable!
...and...
This issue is a problem. Has anyone else reported it?
....then...you must be @blakeyrat.
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@aliceif said:
Sounds like a vicious cycle.
http://www.groaction.com/discover/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Break-the-Cycle-of-Violence.jpg
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@cartman82 said:
You are not stupid.
Well that can't be. Based on what I read on this forum, that's pretty much all I could possibly be.
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@cartman82 said:
@blakeyrat said:
Well go ahead just pile-on. It's 5:33 AM and already the worst day of my life. Make sure there's absolutely no doubt how stupid I am. Keep posting.
Ok, seriously dude, just relax. Things are not that tragic.
Even if you receive some alerts you don't like, you can still post stuff on the forum and talk with people. Even if you don't like the npm tool you're using, you are still doing intellectual job in a nice air-conditioned place and receive a huge paycheck. You're better off than 99.99% of humans who had ever lived.
Just relax and try to enjoy life. You don't need to get this upset about everything. I mean, maybe you're trolling, but if not, just... relax.
It's still unfair and upsetting.
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@cartman82 said:
Even if you receive some alerts you don't like, you can still post stuff on the forum and talk with people.
Yeah I can and they can call me a dumbshit and everybody's happy. Especially me, the dumbshit. Overjoyed.
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@boomzilla The first of those quotes is true. (Scroll up and see the screenshot I just posted.) The second is just asking if someone's reported a bug; I don't have the imagination to see how that could be considered an insult. But, you know, dumbshit here.
As for not understanding human emotions, fine. Maybe I don't. I also don't understand why that opens the floodgates to call me stupid at every opportunity. My cat doesn't understand human emotions. I don't use that as an excuse to kick her every time I see her. But hey. What do I know; I'm too stupid.
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@blakeyrat said:
The first of those quotes is true. (Scroll up and see the screenshot.) The second is just asking if someone's reported a bug; I don't have the imagination to see how that could be considered an insult. But, you know, dumbshit here.
Congratulations! you actually passed the test. Now, which mode do you recall using in your posts?
Haven't you posted about the importance of communication in a software developer's job skills? Do you imagine those skills might also impact relations with other people?
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@blakeyrat said:
@cartman82 said:
Even if you receive some alerts you don't like, you can still post stuff on the forum and talk with people.
Yeah I can and they can call me a dumbshit and everybody's happy. Especially me, the dumbshit. Overjoyed.
Calling each other dumbshits is TDWTF's national sport. Surely you've been here long enough to realize that.
For most of us, it's nothing personal, and I don't think you should take it as such. You dumbshit.
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@boomzilla said:
Congratulations! you actually passed the test. Now, which mode do you recall using in your posts?
Yay I r winnar.
I'm too stupid to know what "mode" means. You mean tablet vs. desktop mode on NodeBB?
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@Maciejasjmj said:
@blakeyrat said:
@cartman82 said:
Even if you receive some alerts you don't like, you can still post stuff on the forum and talk with people.
Yeah I can and they can call me a dumbshit and everybody's happy. Especially me, the dumbshit. Overjoyed.
Calling each other dumbshits is TDWTF's national sport. Surely you've been here long enough to realize that.
For most of us, it's nothing personal, and I don't think you should take it as such. You dumbshit.
There's a difference between that happening occasionally and that happening all the time.
Especially when voicing valid complaints about nodeBB.
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@boomzilla said:
Haven't you posted about the importance of communication in a software developer's job skills? Do you imagine those skills might also impact relations with other people?
I know nobody believes me, which is fine because I'm so stupid that everything I say is moronic and you should ignore it, but somehow I do manage to get along fine with my co-workers and maintain a steady job. I've only been laid-off once, and that's because I was in a division of the company that was being closed down. (I've survived, what, 6-7 other layoff cycles at that and other companies.) So I must be doing something right.
But no, I'm not. Just an illusion. Too stupid.
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@boomzilla said:
Obviously.
We have a misunderstanding of the word "obviously". But I'm sure you're right because I'm so stupid and dumb.
I already described the bug. But whatever, here it is again. On my 1080p laptop, with the OS DPI zoom set to 150% and the browser zoom set to 125%, when I go to type or edit a post I end up in this weird Twlight Zone in between mobile mode and desktop mode.
The posts are hidden like in mobile mode (which is why my replies have been so spammy BTW, I can't multi-quote), but I have the header and split-editor like in desktop mode.
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@blakeyrat said:
I know nobody believes me...So I must be doing something right.
It's not that I don't believe you. It's that I wish you'd use some more of that communication ability around here. A rant about a stupid game is very different than talking with people when you're involved in a project. Which this is, whether you like it or not.
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@blakeyrat said:
I'm too stupid to know what "mode" means.
He means mode of speaking, he's not talking about the bug itself.
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@boomzilla said:
A rant about a stupid game is very different than talking with people when you're involved in a project. Which this is, whether you like it or not.
Wait what?
Do you think you've somehow shanghai'd me to work on this forum? When did that happen? How? And why?
No, I have zero ownership here. Other than hosting the legacy CS forums, that's it. If you think I'm "working" for you or whatever, maybe you should have at one point at least told me that.
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@Yamikuronue said:
He means mode of speaking, he's not talking about the bug itself.
I'm sure nobody will believe me, which is fine because I'm so dumb, but I don't know what the phrase "mode of speaking" means, and AFAIK I've never heard it before in my life.
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@aliceif said:
There's a difference between that happening occasionally and that happening all the time.
Especially when voicing valid complaints about nodeBB.
I guess... but still, no reason to get dramatic and complain that everyone here hates Blakey.
We don't, it's just that we don't really hold our horses and tiptoe around someone whose whole presence on this forum is built around being harsh and quick-tempered.
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@blakeyrat It's basically how like, when people talk to their friends, they use different rhetoric than when they talk to their boss or their mother or their dog. If you talked to your boss the way you talk to, say, Racepro, you'd probably be fired. Boomzilla's trying to get you to talk to people on this forum the way you'd talk to your coworkers.
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@Maciejasjmj said:
we don't really hold our horses
It seems like Blakey inspires more hate than other forum denizens though. If Cartman posts an expletive-filled rant about NodeBB, people go "yeah, that fucking sucks". If Blakey does it, we get fifteen posts about how stupid Blakey is, which is tiresome. Save it for when he's actually being a dick, you know?
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@Yamikuronue said:
If you talked to your boss the way you talk to, say, Racepro, you'd probably be fired. Boomzilla's trying to get you to talk to people on this forum the way you'd talk to your coworkers.
Are you guessing what he wants? Or passing on a message from him?
Look, I don't work for TheDailyWTF. I don't know why Boomzilla thinks I do.
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@Yamikuronue said:
If Blakey does it, we get fifteen posts about how stupid Blakey is, which is tiresome. Save it for when he's actually being a dick, you know?
Well and if they're going to do it, they could at least be creative and post something new. I'm sick of hearing the same nonsense insults in every goddamned thread, it's like talking to a skipping record.
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@Yamikuronue said:
Boomzilla's trying to get you to talk to people on this forum the way you'd talk to your coworkers.
But... why? We're perfectly fine with Blakey yelling at us and calling us idiots.
@Yamikuronue said:
It seems like Blakey inspires more hate than other forum denizens though.
Maybe... But then again, it's like what you say - you talk differently to different people, according to what they can take. We know Blakey is not above some heated arguments, unlike say @RaceProUK who's just gonna take everything personally.
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@Maciejasjmj said:
unlike say @RaceProUK who's just gonna take everything personally
Hey, I'm working on being a better troll; it takes time! :P
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@Maciejasjmj The thing that pissed me off today though is the idea that perfectly sensible complaints are somehow irrational just because an irrational person said them. That catches me in the crossfire, because now the exact same complaints I've voiced elsewhere are being mocked as though they're irrational. Which is bullshit, because now I feel like I can't bitch about broken software anymore, it's all about people's hatred of this person or that person rather than hatred of broken software, which is the fucking point of this place.
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@blakeyrat said:
Do you think you've somehow shanghai'd me to work on this forum?
I have no illusions about that. But there have been quite a few people actually doing stuff. Like searching for the disco-alternative and testing it and so forth.
@blakeyrat said:
If you think I'm "working" for you or whatever, maybe you should have at one point at least told me that.
Nope. You're just an asshole free loader. I don't have a problem with free loaders. But when they go out of their way to tell the people who have been trying to make this a better place, I also have no problem calling them assholes.
@blakeyrat said:
Look, I don't work for TheDailyWTF. I don't know why Boomzilla thinks I do.
Because you're too stupid to understand that I don't?
@blakeyrat said:
Are you guessing what he wants? Or passing on a message from him?
Fucking hell. She's just capable of communicating with other people.
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@Yamikuronue said:
The thing that pissed me off today though is the idea that perfectly sensible complaints are somehow irrational just because an irrational person said them.
Yeah, that I agree with. Blakey has a couple of good points in this thread, and I personally despise the attitude of "well if it annoys you, fix it yourself or fuck off" when it comes to coding.
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@Yamikuronue said:
The thing that pissed me off today though is the idea that perfectly sensible complaints are somehow irrational just because an irrational person said them.
I don't think that's going on. However, people tend to respond in a like tone. Plus, they don't necessarily understand the whole situation. Like when blakey yells in a help topic about how he couldn't read the OP's mind. Blakey also has a history of refusing answers.
But...FTR, I didn't call blakey out about npm. I've only used it a little bit and haven't run into any problems with it.
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@boomzilla said:
But when they go out of their way to tell the people who have been trying to make this a better place, I also have no problem calling them assholes.
Isn't "pointing out bugs" considered "making things better" in the open source-y world? Whenever someone asks how to contribute to open source without writing code, that's what the response is.
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@blakeyrat said:
Look, I don't work for TheDailyWTF. I don't know why Boomzilla thinks I do.
No one is saying you need to work for NodeBB or TDWTF. But, we also don't think that filing a goddamn bug report is work.
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@blakeyrat said:
Isn't "pointing out bugs" considered "making things better" in the open source-y world?
Kind of, yes, but you need to point them out to the people who are in a position to fix them
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@boomzilla said:
Fucking hell. She's just capable of communicating with other people.
So she is correctly interpreting your --- you know what, never mind. Look, just SAY WHAT YOU MEAN without all the games, like using the least-known definition of the word "mode" or saying "obviously" when you mean "not at all". Look, I'm a fucking retard, remember? I'm stupid as fuck. I can't play the games.
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@blakeyrat said:
Instead, they talked about me.
Maybe you should try being less of a stark, raving asshole. Most people--I realize this doesn't count you--are nice to people until they get insulted by them. Then they start returning the favor. Those of us who aren't from other planets usually learn young not to lash out at everyone around them constantly.
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@boomzilla said:
Blakey also has a history of refusing answers.
I don't refuse answers, I refuse unsolicited advice. Because people who give unsolicited advice are the rudest motherfuckers in the world. And that's not just a persona thing, the person behind this account believes that, too.
If people posting here gave as much unsolicited advice to their friends in real life as they do to me here, they'd have a black eye every day. Amazingly rude behavior.
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@blakeyrat said:
Keep piling on. Please.
Now you fire up a pity party? Good luck with that. You should join a 12-step program or something.
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The thing that pissed me off today though is the idea that perfectly sensible complaints are somehow irrational just because an irrational person said them.
It's a classic Boy Who Cried Wolf pattern. After a person has shown ignorance and impatience enough times, they are not going to be taken seriously by default. Even if their complaints are legit.
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@blakeyrat said:
people who give unsolicited advice are the rudest motherfuckers in the world. And that's not just a persona thing, the person behind this account believes that, too.
Holy fuck, you are a goddamned asshole.
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@blakeyrat said:
people who give unsolicited advice are the rudest motherfuckers in the world. And that's not just a persona thing, the person behind this account believes that, too.
Does that statement constitute advice not to offer advice?
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@blakeyrat said:
If people posting here gave as much unsolicited advice to their friends in real life as they do to me here, they'd have a black eye every day.
If your friends are punching you in the face for giving unsolicited advice, then you need new friends.
And by 'you' I mean the general 'you', not the specific
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@wft said:
After a person has shown ignorance and impatience enough times, they are not going to be taken seriously by default.
Because we, highly-trained professionals, intelligent and mature people, are unable to evaluate arguments based on merit, and the only thing that counts is the username behind them?
Oh come on.
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@RaceProUK said:
Kind of, yes, but you need to point them out to the people who are in a position to fix them
But the problem here isn't the specific bugs; the problem is that nobody QAed anything.
If whoever's responsible for QA just did a pass on the product, they'd find all the bugs I've pointed out and a hundred more probably.
Of course then we get the new problem, which is that nobody's responsible for QA. Certainly not me. And until I am, I see no need to do the QA job.
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@Maciejasjmj Ad hominem is not always a fallacy. Sometimes it's a really useful preliminary bogofilter.
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@Yamikuronue said:
He means mode of speaking, he's not talking about the bug itself.
You don't honestly believe a guy who's schtick is deliberately misunderstanding things was actually unclear about that, do you?
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@Polygeekery said:
Holy fuck, you are a goddamned asshole.
And let me guess, you just walk up to random people on the street and say, "hey, you should really try to stop smoking, it's bad for your lungs?" No? What would you think of a person who did that? Would you admire them, or would you think they were a rude motherfucker?
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@blakeyrat said:
Isn't "pointing out bugs" considered "making things better" in the open source-y world?
Do you really think all reports are created equal? It seems to bother you that you think people think you are stupid. Do you think other people might have similar reactions?
@blakeyrat said:
So she is correctly interpreting your --- you know what, never mind. Look, just SAY WHAT YOU MEAN without all the games, like using the least-known definition of the word "mode" or saying "obviously" when you mean "not at all". Look, I'm a fucking retard, remember? I'm stupid as fuck. I can't play the games.
Dude, I thought you were being sarcastic. I seriously didn't think you didn't understand what I said, because I didn't think you were stupid. I keep forgetting at how truly awful you are about communicating online.
@blakeyrat said:
I don't refuse answers, I refuse unsolicited advice
Look, moron, you've often refused to admit that people have pointed out how you were wrong about some particular piece of software and then go on to keep ranting under your bad assumptions. I'm thinking in particular of apt-get here, BTW.@blakeyrat said:
But the problem here isn't the specific bugs; the problem is that nobody QAed anything.
That's a fucking lie.
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@Maciejasjmj said:
Because we, highly-trained professionals, intelligent and mature people, are unable to evaluate arguments based on merit, and the only thing that counts is the username behind them?
Oh come on.
The people piling-on in that (and every) thread aren't even reading what I type. They just see the polygon bird and whatever product is mentioned in the title and go for it.
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@RaceProUK said:
If your friends are punching you in the face for giving unsolicited advice, then you need new friends.
Let's say you're obese. Well, not morbidly obese, maybe kind of overweight, and you're working on shedding some kilograms. And one of your friends keeps coming up to you and telling you "why don't you just eat less?" over and over and over.
I wouldn't exactly be thankful for that.
