Quick Android question-- how do I turn on encryption?
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Generation 5 Amazon Fire. I don't see an option in "Security"...?
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Not in "Device Options", not in "Storage"...
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201540730 These directions for an older version point me to menu items that don't exist in the Generation 5 Fire...
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Amazon removed device encryption from Fire OS 5 because no one was using it
However, they do plan on bringing it back later.
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I just checked updates and no new versions available.
WTF!!!!!
This is definitely in the category of, "it's so expected and normal you'd never even THINK to check the product page to see if it's supported". It's like buying a car and then having the dealership say, "oh, sorry, we don't sell tires with the car, we have to deliver it to you on a forklift."
I have to admit I didn't think about turning it on until after the Apple news broke, but still. Android needs it ANYWAY to be compliant with Microsoft's ActiveSync or whatever they call their Exchange - Mobile syncing service now, so why the fuck would they hide it from the USER? THEY NEED IT ANYWAY!
So it's like the car dealership saying they ship the car with no tires, but you own the tires, the tires are just someplace you can't drive to because you don't have tires.
... or something.
Wait a minute, how does ANDROID allow this?! I suppose Google is just 100% hands-off, because it's all open source-y and they don't give a shit if users of their OS are shitty?
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Although I guess I owe Amazon something of an apology, because Windows Phone 8 has the EXACT SAME RETARDNESS. If you hook it up to an Exchange server that requires encryption, bam, works fine. But if you're just a normal average Joe user who doesn't have an Exchange server? There's no option to turn it on.
WHY DEVICE MAKERS! WHY YOU DO THIS! It almost makes me want to buy Apple. But... ok fuck that no. Still, this is one thing Apple's definitely doing better than competitors.
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Wait a minute, how does ANDROID allow this?!
Because Amazon forked the OS and made their own "version", and then decided that not enough users used the encryption to be worth not spending the effort to take the feature out.
How's Google supposed to stop Amazon from doing that, I'd like to know.
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I guess they can't because they were stupid enough to release their stuff as open source, giving up all control over whether the experience is shitty or not. Fucking morons.
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It's like buying a car and then having the dealership say, "oh, sorry, we don't sell tires with the car, we have to deliver it to you on a forklift."
I feel like it's more "Here's your new car. You can't lock it."
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Right; but they can lock it if you're driving on behalf of your employer. Just not if you're on your own.
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I guess they can't because they were stupid enough to release their stuff as open source, giving up all control over whether the experience is shitty or not.
Bear in mind, this is a problem with Amazon's software, not the code being open source. Amazon chose to remove it for stupid reasons. If they'd built their own operating system, they would simply have not have implemented encryption.
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This is definitely in the category of, "it's so expected and normal you'd never even THINK to check the product page to see if it's supported".
Yet no version of Windows until 10 supported encryption (Bitlocker) in their "home" edition. Apparently that's not an essential feature (neither is being able to change your system language).
Thank god Android scared them enough to stop doing things like that.
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I guess they can't because they were stupid enough to release their stuff as open source, giving up all control over whether the experience is shitty or not. Fucking morons.
BS, whatever Amazon tablets run is not Android. Just look at the product page: Amazon doesn't call the OS Android anywhere. They have to call it Fire OS. Because Google does give a shit about the Android brand and UX.
You didn't buy an Android device, so don't claim that this is an Android problem.
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BS, whatever Amazon tablets run is not Android.
That's some nice No True Scotsmanning there.
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That's some nice No True Scotsmanning there.
Erm… Nope. Blakey is complaining that the Android UX is shit based on his experience with a device from a company that forked and modified Android to the point where it's no longer allowed to call its own OS Android. In that context, it's simply wrong to call that device an Android device. If we were talking about technical details of the underlying kernel, that would be different, from a technical point of view the underlying OS is still Android. From a user's POV it's not.
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I care not for pedantic dickweedery.
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I care not for pedantic dickweedery.
We know you like to keep your dickweedery separate from your pendantry.
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By that logic, this is an iPhone, since the design is iPhone "based".
Just because it's Android based doesn't mean it's Android. By all means, give Amazon hell about their stupid crap, but it's not an Android issue...
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WITH REAL FINGERPRINT
Big deal, my phone has real fingerprints too, all over the screen.
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That's another tablet question, how do you keep all the millions of fingerprints off????
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Personally, I don't bother; I just wipe the screen down every so often
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That's another tablet question, how do you keep all the millions of fingerprints off????
I hear some screens are more resilient than others.
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Well I do have like literally the cheapest tablet you can buy so I guess I can't complain.
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Because Amazon forked the OS and made their own "version", and then decided that not enough users used the encryption to be worth not spending the effort to take the feature out.
slimrom also broke encryption so i couldnt use it in my now defunct s3 phone.
I'm convinced that rooting it or at least installing a custom rom was a bad idea.
Maybe it's hard to maintain it in forks for some resson.
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I guess they can't because they were stupid enough to release their stuff as open source, giving up all control over whether the experience is shitty or not. Fucking morons.
when they bought it it was already open source, but you'll appreciate they are closing it component by component as fast as they can
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how do you keep all the millions of fingerprints off????
By nature of the fingerprint, you can only prevent it from happening by covering up said finger or otherwise using some alternate mode of input.
However, for me I use a plastic screen protector coated in some oil-repelling chemicals (or something). The screen still acquires fingerprints, but they're easy to wipe off.
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Yeah, it's kinda futile. And it drives my OCD nuts
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another tablet question, how do you keep all the millions of fingerprints off????
Try plugging in a USB OTG adapter and a mouse.
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@blakeyrat said:
That's another tablet question, how do you keep all the millions of fingerprints off????
Buy a cheap stylus with a soft rubber tip. Use that instead of your fingers. That's the only way you're going to keep fingerprints off--if you touch the screen it will pick up prints like crazy.
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@blakeyrat this was actually one reason I bought a nexus 5x instead of a carrier version, Amazon or w/e else. Nexus 5x gets it's push from Google, supports Android 6 with all the encryption and individual permission options. My default has been to disable all permissions for all apps, and selectively allow them only after they demonstrate need.
You might be able to flash your operating system to support encryption, but it's going to nuke your phone in the process which can be a pretty big pain in the ass, and something you shouldn't need to do.