Fuck you Microsoft and your extremely narrow world-view


  • Banned

    @sloosecannon said:

    I... what? The gains of not having to do stupid shit to seperate user profiles?

    I don't want to separate user profiles. I want to separate Skyrim saves.

    @sloosecannon said:

    The gains of not having to worry about other people messing with your crap?

    I don't have to worry about that anyway, so what exactly am I gaining from profiles?

    @sloosecannon said:

    It's stupid, but I've seen people do that before.

    I've also seen people laying on tracks while a freight train runs over them. I'm fairly sure neither my parents nor my siblings would think of doing either.

    @Zecc said:

    Two days ago I almost deleted a whole folder instead of a single file because the focus was on the left pane instead of the right pane.

    If you had a different profile than you, it wouldn't happen! 🚎

    @Yamikuronue said:

    There's copious shortcuts to Documents just about everywhere.

    OK, I give you that. The other point, however, still stands.

    @sloosecannon said:

    And depending on how long it takes to click, that's probably a few seconds lost on @gaska's time comparison every time you need to open the folder

    I don't make documents that often.


  • Banned

    @sloosecannon said:

    Are you suggesting they're all perfect and never make a mistake?

    No, I'm suggesting that they don't make mistakes on purpose. And your scenario isn't at all accidental mistake.

    @sloosecannon said:

    I do too. I don't trust them to never make a mistake...

    Do you trust yourself to never make mistake? If not, you should make a separate profile for yourself too, so you won't accidentally delete your files!

    @sloosecannon said:

    OHNOoooooo you need to type in your password once a day. :wambulance:

    OHNOoooooo I lose one Word document I never really cared for once every few years!

    As you see, your argument for having separate profiles is as ridiculous as my argument for not having a password. The difference is, mine refers to actual situation I will encounter, and your doesn't.



  • @Gaska said:

    Do you trust yourself to never make mistake? If not, you should make a separate profile for yourself too, so you won't accidentally delete your files!

    I don't, and I have (user account, rather than "profile", 'cause I use a real OS, but you get the point). Not to make sure I don't delete my files, though, rather to make sure I don't delete somebody else's.

    If I manage to blow away my stuff, that's my fucking problem. If I manage to blow away my wife's stuff, that's my testicles.


  • Banned

    @tufty said:

    I don't, and I have (user account, rather than "profile", 'cause I use a real OS, but you get the point). Not to make sure I don't delete my files, though, rather to make sure I don't delete somebody else's.

    http://i.imgur.com/9nohQh4.jpg

    @tufty said:

    If I manage to blow away my stuff, that's my fucking problem. If I manage to blow away my wife's stuff, that's my testicles.

    Technically, the latter is even more your fucking problem...



  • @Gaska said:

    profile

    Shine. On. You. Crazy. Diamond.


  • Banned

    I use profile and account interchangeably. Is there anything particularly wrong with it?



  • @Yamikuronue said:

    There's copious shortcuts to Documents just about everywhere. Going to My Computer, D:, Documents is three clicks, as opposed to clicking the shortcut in the sidebar of any open folder already. So it's actually two MORE folders to navigate.

    If only Windows had auto-suggestions in +R that would make the mouse obsolete for that ...

    Oh wait.


  • Dupa

    Yeah, if Windows had a proper command line, mouse could become finally obsolete for all file operations. But that'll probably never fucking change. Sadly.



  • @Gaska said:

    @dkf said:
    You've never lived until you've had a panic caused by self-triggered data destruction just before you have a critical deadline.

    Yeah, because children totally have deadlines for anything.

    Have you not heard of homework? My eldest child learned a valuable lesson about the reliability of thumb drives last school holidays. Lost an entire project a few days before it was due. Now she pays more attention to me when I say to only use the thumb drive for transfer, not primary storage.

    As for user accounts, the kids' computers are all set up with separate limited user accounts for each of them, plus an admin account for me (actually called Parents but my wife never uses those computers). On the office computer, which only my wife and I use, we don't bother. We have separate folders under My Documents, we use different browsers, I don't use a desktop email client, and our game interests don't overlap much, so it's not really a problem.

    It also means, for example, if she wants to check her email while I'm busy doing something more important, I can just flip over to Outlook and say "yeah, nothing interesting" and then go back to my stuff. And all the general-interest sites that we might both need can go into IE bookmarks, and don't have to be set up separately for both of us.


  • Banned

    @Scarlet_Manuka said:

    Have you not heard of homework?

    It's not really a deadline if you can turn in a day later, or two days later, or a week later, or several months later, or even not at all, without any real consequences.


  • Dupa

    @Scarlet_Manuka said:

    And all the general-interest sites that we might both need can go into IE bookmarks

    For the whole world to see. 🚎



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  • Banned

    Good for you! Over here, missing a deadline means not getting bonus, so they're very real. Thankfully, they're also real in the sense they're actually achievable.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Gaska said:

    It's not really a deadline if you can turn in a day later, or two days later, or a week later, or several months later, or even not at all, without any real consequences.

    That's why you give people those “deadlines” to children to start out with, so that they can learn how to manage their time a bit before it really matters.



  • @Gaska said:

    I keep all my stuff in D:\Documents, which is a different location than the default C:\Users\Name\Documents. This lets me avoid the issue entirely, and is much better solution if I want to find the stuff later, since a) it's two less folders to navigate

    [url=http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/working-with-navigation-pane#1TC=windows-7]Working with the Navigation pane[/url]

    http://res2.windows.microsoft.com/resbox/en/windows 7/main/75df6474-9feb-49ce-b7cb-d025c3e29b78_48.jpg

    @Gaska said:

    it makes turning on the computer take 2 seconds more. 5 if I set up a password. After just a month, it would already offset all gains.

    [url=http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Saving_Lives.txt&sortOrder=Sort+by+Date&topic=Software+Design]"Well, let's say you can shave 10 seconds off of the boot time. Multiply that by five million users and thats 50 million seconds, every single day. Over a year, that's probably dozens of lifetimes. So if you make it boot ten seconds faster, you've saved a dozen lives. That's really worth it, don't you think?"[/url]


  • Banned

    @Gurth said:

    Working with the Navigation pane

    Adding new folders to Favorites

    @Gurth said:

    "Well, let's say you can shave 10 seconds off of the boot time. Multiply that by five million users and thats 50 million seconds, every single day. Over a year, that's probably dozens of lifetimes. So if you make it boot ten seconds faster, you've saved a dozen lives. That's really worth it, don't you think?"

    I don't care about any of those lives. But I care about my 10 seconds.


  • Banned

    @dkf said:

    That's why you give people those “deadlines” to children to start out with, so that they can learn how to manage their time a bit before it really matters.

    All you teach them is that missing deadlines is no big deal. Children are more intelligent than most people think.



  • @Gaska said:

    It's not really a deadline if you can turn in a day later, or two days later, or a week later, or several months later, or even not at all, without any real consequences.

    Was the school you were attending some sort of "everybody's a winner" special school? Each of the schools I went to, if you failed to turn in your homework, you got a failing grade for it (you could take an extension once per semester or so, I think), which factored into your average for the course and could bring you below the passing grade.

    Even if the homework wasn't graded, you could still get an F (or 1 in Poland), and if it was graded, missing the deadline without an extension meant you got two Fs - one for the homework, and one for not being prepared.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Gaska said:

    All you teach them is that missing deadlines is no big deal.

    You were going to tell them that missing the deadline is no big deal? :doing_it_wrong:

    Of course, in reality the world is filled with a mixture of both soft and hard deadlines. The more money involved, the harder the deadline…


  • Banned

    @Maciejasjmj said:

    Was the school you were attending some sort of "everybody's a winner" special school?

    No, I was attending the most typical Polish school imaginable - where all teachers hate their jobs and see every student as the dumbest kid ever born that shouldn't go to school at all because they just waste their time. Until the last month of year, where suddenly everyone gets much higher final grades than they would basing on their grades during the year.


  • Banned

    @dkf said:

    You were going to tell them that missing the deadline is no big deal? :doing_it_wrong:

    I don't have to. They learn it on their own. And then they carry their schoolboy attitude into the adult world and are shocked to learn that if they miss the due date on their CC, shit happens.



  • @Gaska said:

    http://i.imgur.com/9nohQh4.jpg

    Literally under-standing the joke.


  • Banned

    You didn't understand it at all. [spoiler]It was more of undersitting. The chair is not pictured because it didn't seem necessary at the time.[/spoiler]



  • Very few can

    Even [spoiler]enthymemes[/spoiler] can be



  • @Gaska said:

    Adding new folders to Favorites

    You can’t just drag it into the Favorites?


  • Notification Spam Recipient

    @Gurth said:

    You can’t just drag it into the Favorites?

    That's a terrible and dual-message way to treat your folders!


  • Trolleybus Mechanic

    @Gurth said:

    @Lorne_Kates said:
    You can't use a Sharpie pen to mark itself. Think about it.

    I have thought about it, then I went to get the one Sharpie-branded marking pen I’ve ever seen in my life, and confirmed my thoughts that you can use it to mark itself.

    [spoiler]The point is held in a plastic cap that’s attached to the metal body. If you pull off the plastic part so the tip comes with it, you can use that to write on the body of the pen. Surgeon General’s warning: May cause unintended marks on nearby objects, body parts, etc. as well as sore fingers.[/spoiler]

    If you dismantle a Sharpie-- is it still a Sharpie, or is it not a Sharpie?

    Think about it.



  • @Gaska said:

    @Scarlet_Manuka said:
    Have you not heard of homework?

    It's not really a deadline if you can turn in a day later, or two days later, or a week later, or several months later, or even not at all, without any real consequences.

    That's not necessarily true of homework. In my experience (and latterly my kids' experience), it depends on the teacher, the subject, and the age of the children in question. Usually in high school and later you get some sort of penalty for being late, typically a certain percentage of marks deducted (in some cases 100%).


  • :belt_onion:

    In high school, it's almost always 50% one day late, 100% two. Before high school is a little more lenient...

    In my experience. YMMV.

    (I personally hate homework - if you're gonna make me work, fine, but do it when I'm at the belguim­ing school, not when I'm relaxing at home. But that's tangential to this discussion...)



  • @Lorne_Kates said:

    If you dismantle a Sharpie-- is it still a Sharpie, or is it not a Sharpie?

    Think about it.


    I have thought about it, and since the components are made and/or assembled by Sharpie, it’s still a Sharpie.

    Now if you’d said just “marking pen” instead of specifically referring to a Sharpie-brand marking pen, it’d be a more difficult question. OTOH, if you disassemble a car, I have a feeling you’d say it’s still a car, so why wouldn’t a disassembled pen still be a pen?


  • Banned

    @Scarlet_Manuka said:

    That's not necessarily true of homework. In my experience (and latterly my kids' experience), it depends on the teacher, the subject, and the age of the children in question.

    You missed the most important factor - the country.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Gaska said:

    You missed the most important factor - the country.

    So you're claiming that Polish teaching is shit?



  • @Gaska said:

    You missed the most important factor - the country.

    I did say "in my experience"; my experience doesn't extend to multiple countries' educational systems. It's very likely that you're right, of course.


  • Dupa

    @dkf said:

    So you're claiming that Polish teaching is shit?

    Nah, I think he says that EU made it worse. But once, it was the best of all the land.

    🚎


  • Banned

    @dkf said:

    So you're claiming that Polish teaching is shit?

    Yes.

    @kt_ said:

    Nah, I think he says that EU made it worse.

    Well, I don't really blame EU, but it's a fact that kids are taught much less than 40 years ago. Integrals used to be taught in 10th grade, now it's second term of BSc - and my sister who is currently in 7th grade, cannot solve linear equations and won't have square roots at school until at least one more year.

    @kt_ said:

    But once, it was the best of all the land.

    Surprisingly, despite all that downfall, Polish education is still one of the best in the world. At least that's what our propaganda wants us to believe.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Gaska said:

    propaganda

    QFJS


  • Banned



  • @Gaska said:

    Surprisingly, despite all that downfall, Polish education is still one of the best in the world.

    And yet, so many morons with a Masters degree...


  • Banned

    Imagine how many morons with a Master's degree must be in USA...


  • Dupa

    Not as many? It is my understanding, that most people finish with a BA?

    Plus, USA? all the kids are on drugs, and all the adults are on roller skates.


  • Banned

    @kt_ said:

    Not as many? It is my understanding, that most people finish with a BA?

    Oh right, forgot. Here in Poland, 28% have Master's degree, while in USA it's just 7.5%.

    @kt_ said:

    Plus, USA? all the kids are on drugs

    You think it's any different elsewhere in the world?

    @kt_ said:

    and all the adults are on roller skates.

    I bet Poles would too if they could afford them.


  • Dupa

    I give you permission to research Monty Python Live at the at the Hollywood Bowl.

    @Gaska said:

    Oh right, forgot. Here in Poland, 28% have Master's degree, while in USA it's just 7.5%.

    CBA to check myself, so are those real values, or have you just torn yourself a new asshole?



  • @kt_ said:

    CBA to check myself, so are those real values, or have you just torn yourself a new asshole?

    Who cares if it is?

    All of those Masters degrees haven't produced any Steve Jobs' or Elon Musk's or Bill Gates's.



  • Fuck those marketing guys. We want a Steve Wosniak, a Fabrice Bellard or a Linus Torvalds.



  • @fbmac said:

    Fuck those marketing guys. We want a Steve Wosniak, a Fabrice Bellard or a Linus Torvalds.

    Well, ok, but my point still applies.


  • Banned

    @kt_ said:

    CBA to check myself, so are those real values, or have you just torn yourself a new asshole?

    CBA to pull it out of my own asshole, so instead I used OECD's and Wikipedia's, respectively.


  • Dupa

    @blakeyrat said:

    Well, ok, but my point still applies.

    Torvald's actually college-educated. He's even started working on the kernel while at the University.


  • Banned

    Did you do this on purpose?


  • Dupa

    @Gaska said:

    Did you do this on purpose?

    Well, I am pretty sure I did.

    Or either, some kind of whoosh?


  • Banned

    It's just that rats and penguins don't mix well.


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