Q: How do you tell the difference between a mouse and a touchscreen?
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@hungrier said:
amorous
You're touching it wrong.
I disagree.
Filed under: Now timmy, using this watermelon show us where the fox touched you
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Pitcher of water, meet sensitive electronics.
It’s not the Smithsonian we’re talking about here, where a screen more or less wouldn’t be noticeable in the budget.use a Javascript onmouseover event on all the <a> tags to fire the click event.
@anotherusername said:If it's firing all the events of everything it crosses over to get to the touch point, just set a timeout and use the onmouseout event to cancel it.
Or I could just replace the links by buttons with one mouse event, thereby avoiding the need for handling two events plus a timeout.
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It’s not the Smithsonian we’re talking about here, where a screen more or less wouldn’t be noticeable in the budget.
i'm pretty sure the smithsonian's budget is a bit tighter than that, or at least their accountants keep a fairly tight grip on the purse strings.
;-)
I'll note, however, that i was not recommending any particular course of action with my post, merely making an observation that a particular course of action may be available.
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Or I could just replace the links by buttons with one mouse event, thereby avoiding the need for handling two events plus a timeout.
Too simple. Not enterprisey enough.
Also, might require CSS to make it look like a link instead of a button... unless the people you're designing for don't care about the presentation.
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i'm pretty sure the smithsonian's budget is a bit tighter than that, or at least their accountants keep a fairly tight grip on the purse strings.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHA
*gasp*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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@accalia said:
i'm pretty sure the smithsonian's budget is a bit tighter than that, or at least their accountants keep a fairly tight grip on the purse strings.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHA
*gasp*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH/me wanders over and slaps @twelvebaud on the back a couple of times
Breathe man! breathe before you pass out!
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The power of controlling a town full of Mafia has gone to his head.
All work and no play makes @twelvebaud a dull boy
All work and no play makes @twelvebaud a dull boy
All work and no play makes @twelvebaud a dull boy
All work and no play makes @twelvebaud a dull boy
All work and no play makes @twelvebaud a dull boy
All work and no play makes @twelvebaud a dull boy
All work and no play makes @twelvebaud a dull boy
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I want to explain why I find that hilarious, but am blocked by NDA. Such is life in the software world...
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I want to explain why I find that hilarious, but am blocked by NDA. Such is life in the software world...
now you've just made me curious.
/me puts on a detective hat and pulls out a magnifying glass to look for clues.
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Also, might require CSS to make it look like a link instead of a button...
Actually it was already the other way around: all the links and buttons were styled to look identical — neither of them looking like the OS’s or browser’s standard buttons, BTW. Since it’s a full-screen app on a touchscreen, I wanted all the links to clearly stand out from the background: you can’t expect people to know that they should tap on underlined words, and in any case their interaction with the site consists basically of tapping on the things they want to view.
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you can’t expect people to know that they should tap on underlined words
Right, because assholes have spent the last ten years abusing CSS to defeat the default behavior of browsers, so some people who've been timepodding for 20 years might know know what an underlined word means.
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If this were running as clearly a web site in clearly a web browser on a computer desktop, I’d agree with you. This, though, is a full-screen “application” (I use the word loosely :) ) running in a location where you can’t expect visitors to know the basic conventions of web sites, or even of computers. Visitors to this museum range from four-year-old kids who might be surprised that a printed photograph doesn’t change when swiped across, to 90+-year-olds who perhaps have never interacted with a computer before in their lives. Thus, all links and other points of interacting having the same appearance as clearly-defined rectangular areas seems like a good idea to me.
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That was shot down really quickly by the museum staff with the words, “We don’t want some joker to make it show porn.”
Wrong kind of museum then.
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Thus, all links and other points of interacting having the same appearance as clearly-defined rectangular areas seems like a good idea to me.
Look, if you've got people who aren't familiar with computers, what makes you think they're going to know what buttons are?
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what makes you think they're going to know what buttons are?
Buttons were around before computers. If they don't know what a button is, how did they get all the way to the museum? Walked? I assume that said hypothetical people also believe that things like traffic lights and cars are brought to life by magic.
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Look, if you've got people who aren't familiar with computers, what makes you think they're going to know what buttons are?
- People know buttons from non-computer devices.
- I’ve provided on-screen instructions,¹ that in simple words with pictures tell people to press the things on the screen that they’re interested in.
- Rectangles in a different colour from the background draw more attention as something worth pressing than underlined text does.
¹ Now the question is: am I naïve enough to think people will actually look at those?
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Buttons were around before computers.
No, if you're going to argue that you have people who haven't used computers, you can't say "but of course they'll know what GUI buttons are."
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am I naïve enough to think people will actually look at those?
I don't know if you are. But I can tell you that plenty of them won't.
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Yes, and no. Yes, because chances are good they won’t associate coloured rectangles on a screen with a push-button. No, because even if they don’t associate the two, a clearly-marked rectangular area is more likely to be investigated than text with some formatting is.
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can't say
Why not? If buttons don't look like buttons then why do they call them that?
Does one suddenly lose the ability to recognize numbers just because the font is a little more square?
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People know buttons from non-computer devices.
Yep.
http://www.photographyblogger.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/504354910_c2858236eb.jpg
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That reminds me of the sockdrawer logo
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You changed it?
I hadn't seen that yet.
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???
I see two logos (counting the one @pleegwat showed for sockdrawer instead of yours) of piles of things.