Atwood continues to cry that Dicsource is too big to fail.
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Yeah. We do a lot of embedded and real-time development at work. A lot of our stuff is measured in microseconds, and if we can't get stuff to happen that quickly then we don't have a viable product. 1ms is an eternity to me.
I'm mostly doing soft real-time stuff (that is, graphics stuff), so my constraints are a bit more relaxed. Got lots of respect for hard real-time things, though -- just figuring out where & when the worst cases occur is tricky at times, never mind fixing them.
Still ... ~100ms? I can render meshes consisting of gigabytes of pure geometry without doing anything clever in that time. :wistful_thinking:
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MongoDB is
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MongoDB is
So what we need is a forum that resides entirely in MongoDB as a file system. Then a JS client to access the MongoDB openly and pull the forum execute it and then pull the data.
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Bad Ideas Thread is , etc
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I actually like the latest UI version.............
I don't mind gmail's UI for dealing with email, for the most part. But @flabdablet is at least 1,000% correct about managing contacts.
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There is indeed the Crystal Pepsi market segment and their predictive value. Agreed.
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@sloosecannon said:
I actually like the latest UI version.............
I don't mind gmail's UI for dealing with email, for the most part. But @flabdablet is at least 1,000% correct about managing contacts.
Eh, I actually like that better too. But I'm a big fan of Material Design and that's what that redesign is targeting. YMMV, to each his own, etc.
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Eh, I actually like that better too.
I get angry every time I go in there because things that seem like they shouldn't be editable aren't and it's not obvious why. Or I go to add someone to a group and the dropdown closes, and then I have to go back and check to make sure it didn't remove them from the other groups.
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because things that seem like they shouldn't be editable aren't and it's not obvious why.
Yes, yes, I hate UIs that make non-editable things look non-editable.
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things that seem like they shouldn't be editable aren't and it's not obvious why
Ah, right.
Yeah, see, I'm used to that because it's the same UI language they use on Android phones. So yeah, it's a case of moving cheese and stuff. I can see how it could be a little odd to get used to.
Again, I don't find it odd that people don't like it - not surprised actually. I personally prefer it but I can see the fustration
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I despise Gmail's UI. We use Gmail for work, and I often have to ask coworkers how to do basic things because I can't figure it out on my own. Totally unintuitive to me.
(I may be TRWTF, but I like Yahoo's webmail interface, except that it's now so painfully slow Discourse is a rocket-powered roadrunner by comparison.)
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Yeah, see, I'm used to that because it's the same UI language they use on Android phones.
Actually, I have one of those now, but I wouldn't say I've used it enough to have gotten terribly used to that stuff.
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We use Gmail for work, and I often have to ask coworkers how to do basic things because I can't figure it out on my own.
What sort of basic stuff? I wouldn't say I never get stuck on anything there, but I don't recall anything I'd consider to be basic. Of course, that could just be the mind going...
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I'm used to that because it's the same UI language they use on Android phones
But as Microsoft has learned the hard way (sort of), what works on a touchscreen doesn't necessarily work on a desktop or laptop
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Who uses Chrome on iOS?
I sure as hell aren't using Safari. When it isn't crashing, pages are redirecting me to ads (in the same tab) instead of the page I wanted to see.
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Eh, IMO it works pretty well. Definitely better than the Metro/Modern implementation by Microsoft...
I have one of those now
O.O
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@mott555 said:
We use Gmail for work, and I often have to ask coworkers how to do basic things because I can't figure it out on my own.
What sort of basic stuff? I wouldn't say I never get stuck on anything there, but I don't recall anything I'd consider to be basic. Of course, that could just be the mind going...
Last time it was formatting. They changed the UI and hid the bold/italic/etc buttons behind a button with a graphic I didn't understand.
My other big gripe is "Reply to All" rarely actually does reply to all, and I have to delete the draft and try again two or three times before it actually includes everyone from the email chain.
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"Reply to All" rarely actually does reply to all
I take it you want it to get all the recipients of previous emails in the chain?
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My other big gripe is "Reply to All" rarely actually does reply to all, and I have to delete the draft and try again two or three times before it actually includes everyone from the email chain.
AFAICT, it works the same as any other mail client: it takes theFrom
andCC
fields to put into theTo
andCC
of the reply. I'm not aware of a client that combs the e-mail chain for addresses not already in those fields.
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They changed the UI and hid the bold/italic/etc buttons behind a button with a graphic I didn't understand.
FWIW they're here:
And that sticks around after that email too. Keyboard shortcuts work as well. The icon... well, it makes sense if you know what you're looking for (it's a bold-italic-underlined A in a different font than default, so I suppose the "change font" makes sense...)
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Okay, example: I just got an email that was sent to 4 people, we'll call them B, C, D, and E. The email originated from Person A. I click "Reply to All". Expected behavior: The "To" field is filled out with A, B, C, D (pretend I'm Person E). Actual behavior: The "To" field is filled out with A only. I delete the draft, and click "Reply to All" again. This time the "To" field is filled out with A, B, C, and D. Same button, different effect.
And that sticks around after that email too. Keyboard shortcuts work as well. The icon... well, it makes sense if you know what you're looking for (it's a bold-italic-underlined A in a different font than default, so I suppose the "change font" makes sense...)
That's totally different than how it looked when I couldn't find it.
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Assuming that the original mail was:
From: A To: @mott555 CC: B,C,D,E
Then I would expect only A to show up in the To when you reply all, and then if you expand the headers, you should see B,C,D,E in the CC field.
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That said, Bootstrap (definitely not an MVx framework) and jQuery are together good enough for probably 90% of tasks, so...
Bootstrap has a dependency on jQuery for some of its widgets, so if you're using Bootstrap, you may as well have a look at jQuery (although HTML5 JavaScript can do pretty much anything jQuery can do anyway...)
I did briefly consider Underscore and/or Backbone, but in the interests of keeping the view sane, just serve templated HTML, and use small amounts of JS on top of that. Debugging in the browser is annoying, so serving up frameworks inside frameworks like Matroyoshka dolls is a surefire recipe for disaster.
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And that's the behaviour I see
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That's weird, I routine have the following use case:
I am B. I send an email to A and C on the To line. A clicks "Reply all", and I get that email as well as C. I click "reply all", and both A and C get the email.
What I really like about gmail is that if I sent the last email in a chain with two people, and I click "reply", it automatically sends it to the other person. Outlook sends it to me unless I click "reply all"
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Okay, example: I just got an email that was sent to 4 people, we'll call them B, C, D, and E. The email originated from Person A.
To? CC? Or BCC? Because BCC is different by design, you realize.
I click "Reply to All". Expected behavior: The "To" field is filled out with A, B, C, D (pretend I'm Person E). Actual behavior: The "To" field is filled out with A only. I delete the draft, and click "Reply to All" again. This time the "To" field is filled out with A, B, C, and D. Same button, different effect.
I've never seen that personally, but 90% of my gmail use is through Outlook 2013, which works fine.
Why don't you just install a desktop email client?
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O.o norepro. That's definitely a bug...
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To? CC? Or BCC? Because BCC is different by design, you realize.
Usually it's To, with maybe one CC (manager). If it was BCC, I wouldn't know they were there and wouldn't realize "Reply to All" wasn't including them.
Why don't you just install a desktop email client?
I don't have an Outlook license at work, Thunderbird sucks, and Outlook Express/Windows Live/whatever it's called these days sucks and somehow had large incompatibility issues with our email.
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Okay, example: I just got an email that was sent to 4 people, we'll call them B, C, D, and E. The email originated from Person A. I click "Reply to All". Expected behavior: The "To" field is filled out with A, B, C, D (pretend I'm Person E). Actual behavior: The "To" field is filled out with A only. I delete the draft, and click "Reply to All" again. This time the "To" field is filled out with A, B, C, and D. Same button, different effect.
I'm pretty sure I accidentally click Reply instead of Reply All a lot. Both gmail and kmail, which both have Reply as the default and the All option in a dropdown off of that.
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And in Gmail at least, the icons differ only by what looks like a slim shadow on Reply All.
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Yes, but there's the words there. I dislike the extreme iconization that's been going on in so many places. At least it hasn't gotten to that yet.
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You realize that you can enable button text ?
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I think quite a lot of people have looked at Discourse and thought: some interesting ideas here, but god the implementation sucks. I bet I can steal all the good parts and build something with 20% of the CPU load...
That raises something that hasn't occurred to me before - we know Jeff is a bit of a dick personally, but is he actually a shitty developer too? Is all the shouting and screaming masking the fact that he doesn't know how to address the issues in the product?
Open, not rhetorical, question...
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Certainly would explain a lot
I hate to be captain obvious but no one needs JavaScript to do what Discourse does. You can just drop an irc link at the bottom of your article and push the viewer onto Freenode if they have an irc client. If they don't, you can simply use something like kiwiirc.com to get the job done. Seems easier than complaining that the hardware doesn't run your bloatware seamlessly.
That has to be one of us. Also am I the only one who thinks that Discocourse is dog slow on everything. If I need to see disco timers every time I enter or move around in a thread you've done it wrong.
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You realize that you can enable button text ?
It's also default-on. Or at least it is on my company e-mail (personal is an old Hotmail account that's been grandfathered onto Outlook.com).
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It does not seem to be default on for consumers, i presume that's a company policy.
I has at least not been enabled for any of my consumer accounts.
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Here's the button in question. I know it's not me misclicking.
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Here's the button in question.
Ahhhhh...right...I wasn't thinking about that one for some reason. I do use it, but I don't recall it ever not working for me.
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Here's the button in question
NO_REPRO
I know it's not me misclicking.
REPRO: If you aim for the link but miss it by a few pixels, you end up clicking in the white box. Clicking in the white box does a Reply action, rather than a Reply All.
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REPRO: If you aim for the link but miss it by a few pixels, you end up clicking in the white box. Clicking in the white box does a Reply action, rather than a Reply All.
I hate this modern UI mis-pattern of areas that are not buttons doing buttony things.
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(I may be TRWTF, but I like Yahoo's webmail interface, except that it's now so painfully slow Discourse is a rocket-powered roadrunner by comparison.)
And the fact that they can't remember shit. I like reading top-bottom/old-new. Yahoo doesn't. I change it. Close browser, open. I gave up. Yahoo wins. And their editor... where the fuck did my cursor go. Text selection can be ... interesting ... (Holey crap. This editor is better!) That said, I use it to read my email at work...
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There's a Default Reply Behavior option in the Settings:
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@mott555 said:
Here's the button in question
NO_REPRO
I know it's not me misclicking.
REPRO: If you aim for the link but miss it by a few pixels, you end up clicking in the white box. Clicking in the white box does a Reply action, rather than a Reply All.
If you change the "Default reply behavior" to "Reply all", then clicking in the white box does a Reply All.
And 'ed by @ChaosTheEternal, dammit.
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Guys, you better cut it out or you'll prolly get google banned!
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Neat, changed!
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I don't have anything that looks anything like that under my account settings page. Actually, there's hardly any options at all on my account settings.
EDIT: NVM, I was in the wrong settings page. Gah. Such UI, much discoverable, wow.
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EDIT: NVM, I was in the wrong settings page. Gah. Such UI, much discoverable, wow.
Grrrr....I just updated that, too. It wasn't obvious how to save it (why only put it at the bottom of a giant page o' settings‽). Plus, there's often no save on stuff like contacts IIRC, so maybe you just change it and go on your merry way. Nope.