Sexiïst air conditioning

Jaloopa

@boomzilla said:

It's not a huge thing, but it's really nice.

abarker

@anonymous234 said:

At 49 ºC though you might want to start considering wearing one of these before going outside

Pansy.

antiquarian

@Maciejasjmj said:

And any request to change the temperature will be processed in 3 to 5 business days?

Correct, and the temperature change just might work depending on the moon phase. In practice there are only two real settings: Freeze and Bake.

@Boner said:

She wasn't a great loss.

Why am I not surprised?

@boomzilla said:

Goddamn this patriarchy stuff is hard work.

They're not going to oppress themselves. Besides, anything worthwhile requires effort.

@aliceif said:

> central locking

neanderthal

ITYM Luddite.

blakeyrat

@boomzilla said:

So don't set your thermostat for that? That's been my solution to this scourge.

If I have to manually set it all the time, how is that different than turning the dial in my old car?

FrostCat

@Luhmann said:

In larger office buildings the control is often central and not done by the people on the floor.

My office suite has a thermostat for the suite.

FrostCat

@PJH said:

We have temperature controls in UK offices, though passive aggressiveness shines through here at Vandelay Industries, it's either too hot or too cold in my part of the office with people surreptitiously tweaking it one way or the other over the course of the year.

Ugh. The last place I worked, some rotten menopausal woman was constantly setting the entire floor's AC to arctic to deal with her hot flashes. My office--specifically, my chair--was right under a vent. It was horrible.

FrostCat

@aliceif said:

@flabdablet said:
central locking

neanderthal

I didn't even spot this at first. What the hell is that? Something out of East Germany, where there's a giant lever down by the emergency brake that you pull to lock all the doors?

Choonster

@FrostCat said:

@aliceif said:
@flabdablet said:
central locking

neanderthal

I didn't even spot this at first. What the hell is that? Something out of East Germany, where there's a giant lever down by the emergency brake that you pull to lock all the doors?

Power door locks - Wikipedia

The cars I've been in (fairly modern cars in Australia) simply link the front locks to the back locks, there's no dedicated switch for this. Do cars not have central locking where you live?

tarunik

@anonymous234 said:

They should be used to reduce the temperature from hot to acceptable, not to recreate winter in summer. The guideline I've heard is no more than 12 °C below the outside temperature.

Agreed -- I hate walking into buildings wearing a short-sleeve shirt and finding out the hard way that someone's set the thermostat to "frigid".

Most of the effective cooling is really dehumidifying/condensing, anyway, at least in climes (i.e. not the middle of the desert) where it gets humid to begin with. (I sometimes wish I could run my heat and A/C at home at the same time in order to knock built-up latent load down without freezing my rump off...)

I'd say that the 12degC sensible drop would be usable in hot/sticky conditions, while scorching/dry would be a maximum of twice that?

Buddy

[quote="PWolff, post:19, topic:50382]
"Real men" like low temperatures
[/quote]

What? Wouldn't a truly real man be able to put up with any temperature? Who came up with this idea that being manly means being super high-maintenance?

Magus

Fine, real supreme human vectors prefer it frigid.

Buddy

“we like it frigid so their nipples get rigid”. Disgusting how the dudes who like the women to be nippy are so keen to oppress the guys who would prefer to have the heat up (so the women would show more skin) like that.

Bort

@Buddy said:

Who came up with this idea that being manly means being super high-maintenance?

Guys who would like to think they're manly despite being high-maintenance.

"Real men require only the most delicate silk undergarments."

FrostCat

@Choonster said:

Do cars not have central locking where you live?

We don't call it that, we call it power or electric locks, and I believe just about every car on the market has had it standard, except maybe the lowest-end models, for probably at least 10 years. (Not to mention the fact, of course, that they were available much longer, although only in progressively more expensive cars.)

dkf

@tarunik said:

I sometimes wish I could run my heat and A/C at home at the same time in order to knock built-up latent load down without freezing my rump off...

Can't you get a more sophisticated AC system? One of the systems in my office at work (sigh ) has a pure dehumidify setting, and that's really nice for a lot of the year. High humidity is definitely the norm in the UK.

xaade

I'm fucking cold right now.
And I'm wearing a jacket.

I guess my workplace is androgynist.

tarunik

@dkf said:

Can't you get a more sophisticated AC system? One of the systems in my office at work (sigh ) has a pure dehumidify setting, and that's really nice for a lot of the year. High humidity is definitely the norm in the UK.

I've seen dehumidify settings on big PTAC units in server rooms, but not in residential split systems; the integration just isn't there. Besides, I'm not sure how well such a thing would work when you're burning gas for heat...

Of course, you can get a dehumidifier as a separate "module" -- but that's not what I'm after. Apparently some heat pump systems can do it (basically it requires a reheat after the A/C coils, which may be backwards from how typical evaporator coils are arranged).

FrostCat

@tarunik said:

I sometimes wish I could run my heat and A/C at home at the same time in order to knock built-up latent load down without freezing my rump off

? (not vouching for this model or anything, it was the first result on Amazon for "whole house dehumidifiers".) I know people who have used this kind of thing in humid areas.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AU7GZXE/

blakeyrat

@tarunik said:

(I sometimes wish I could run my heat and A/C at home at the same time in order to knock built-up latent load down without freezing my rump off...)

You could just buy a cheap dehumidifier. Or get an A/C that has a dehumidifier "mode", even my shitty portable one has that.

boomzilla

@blakeyrat said:

@boomzilla said:
So don't set your thermostat for that? That's been my solution to this scourge.

If I have to manually set it all the time, how is that different than turning the dial in my old car?

I don't know about your old car. In my old car, changing the dial just changed how hard the A/C worked. It didn't care about the actual temperature in the car. It would keep blowing at however I set it.

In my Fusion, it tries to keep it at the specified temperature. Which means that as it gets closer, it blows more softly ( ) or less coldly (or the inverse in the winter, of course). In general, the temperature I set stays fairly constant given the season.

Actually, even beyond that, I tend to have it set somewhere in the upper 60s, winter or summer. Spring and fall are nicer, so I may just open the windows and not have it on at all.

Either way, it's better than the old way since the setting changes the system's behavior relative to the actual temperature in the car, which my older car (with the fully manual temperature controls) didn't.

tarunik

@FrostCat said:

? (not vouching for this model or anything, it was the first result on Amazon for "whole house dehumidifiers".) I know people who have used this kind of thing in humid areas.

I'm talking about having that capability as an integral part of the HVAC system, not as a "bolt on"

@blakeyrat said:

You could just buy a cheap dehumidifier. Or get an A/C that has a dehumidifier "mode", even my shitty portable one has that.

We have had a cheap dehumidifer running for quite a while now -- but it's only of use for controlling basement humidity. And I'm talking about our central air conditioner here, Mr. Timepod.

cdosrun1

I find that men, typically, prefer it to be somewhat cooler in the office, even if everyone is in casual attire. Note that I am not saying that all beings who currently identify as male prefer it cooler than any and all beings who currently identify as female- just a trend with people I've personally worked with.

And yet the typical full business monkey suit for men- Long sleeve shirt, tie, jacket- tends to be warmer than most business attire for women.

Just seems backwards to me.

blakeyrat

@tarunik said:

And I'm talking about our central air conditioner here,

I live in Western Washington, what is that?

Mr. Lacks Geographical Knowledge!q1!!!!

FrostCat

@tarunik said:

I'm talking about having that capability as an integral part of the HVAC system, not as a "bolt on"

Yeah, I know. Are you going to rip out your existing system to do that? This would be cheaper.

FrostCat

@blakeyrat said:

I live in Western Washington, what is [a central air conditioner]?

I bet a lot of big buildings have it even there.

ben_lubar

I stay in the basement because it's cooler.

Magus

We were joking today about what we're going to do next week, since apparently executives are visiting the office, and no shorts or jeans are allowed for the duration. Sounds awful, but maybe it'll be cooler? This is what we get for being on the same floor as the lawyers...

ben_lubar

Did they say anything about Hawaiian shirts?

Magus

They said Business Casual, and we joked that they didn't say 'no costumes', and that we should show up as wizards or something.

ben_lubar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLSgRzCAtXA

dkf

@tarunik said:

residential split systems

I've never actually seen such a system installed in the UK. I'm not saying nobody has them, but they're not exactly common.

@tarunik said:

Besides, I'm not sure how well such a thing would work when you're burning gas for heat...

Should be fine. You do not want your main heat source to vent into your living space without a really good exhaust. CO poisoning is a real thing to watch out for, and CO₂ buildup is not good either, and once you've got venting (or a chimney) in place to deal with those properly, excess H₂O from the combustion shouldn't be an issue. And in fact the extra heat will lower the humidity.

Balanced flue systems are a really good idea with gas heating. With only minimal maintenance, they're both safe and pretty efficient.

PWolff

@dkf said:

Balanced flue systems

Anyone else read "Balanced flu systems" at first look?

gleemonk

We had this guy

Him: Can I take that old kettle grill you don't seem to use?
Us: Sure, rusty piece of shit we don't know who left it here.
Him: I need heating for my home
Us: ?!

@dkf said:
CO poisoning is a real thing to watch out for

Him: Don't worry, I'll build an exhaust through the window.
Us: Sorry, we actually still need it.

He was living with another person so we couldn't let it happen to see whether he'd kill himself. There were no other takers so eventually we had to dispose of the grill.

tarunik

@dkf said:

I've never actually seen such a system installed in the UK. I'm not saying nobody has them, but they're not exactly common.

A "split system" means that the evaporator is installed in the plenum system and the compressor/condenser are installed in an outdoor unit, with field-fitted refrigerant lines connecting the two. This is as opposed to a PTAC/PTHP, which is a single unit that goes "through the wall", requiring no fitting of field refrigerant lines to install.

@dkf said:

Should be fine. You do not want your main heat source to vent into your living space without a really good exhaust. CO poisoning is a real thing to watch out for, and CO2 buildup is not good either, and once you've got venting (or a chimney) in place to deal with those properly, excess H2O from the combustion shouldn't be an issue. And in fact the extra heat will lower the humidity.

My concern is that running both simultaneously might damage the evaporator coils, or cause issues with the heat exchanger in the furnace...

antiquarian

@xaade said:

androgynist

ITYM misandrist.

blakeyrat

@Magus said:

We were joking today about what we're going to do next week, since apparently executives are visiting the office, and no shorts or jeans are allowed for the duration.

Just don't do it.

What's the worst that could happen? They send you to work from home? Ooooo. What a threat.

accalia

@blakeyrat said:

What's the worst that could happen? They send you to work from home? Ooooo. What a threat.

nah. the worst that could happen is they send you home with a pink slip, and when you get to the car park you discover that they slashed all four of your tyres and broke your headlights, and then when you get home you are greeted by the police who themselves stand outside the line of firetrucks that are battling the fire as they load an ambulance with the black bagged remains of your family and the police want to talk to you about the note they found confessing to being the one who set the fire and appears to be signed with your name....

but on the ride to the police station you are abducted by aliens who anally probe you without lube before returning you to the police car they found you in without your clothes.....

antiquarian

@accalia said:

<INSERT 5 COINS TO CONTINUE READING THIS STORY>

How many coins to avoid reading this story?

accalia

hmm..... i dunno.... how many you got?

antiquarian

counting...

e^iπ and a whoosh

Bort

@accalia said:

as they load an ambulance with the black bagged remains of your family

I like your style.

accalia

@antiquarian said:

eiπ

hmm.... yeah you can keep your -1 coins. i guess you'll never know how blakeyrat becomes a bad enough dude to save the president from the president's daughter.

antiquarian

In that case, I'll give you 2⁰ coins and a pendantry to avoid the rest of the story.

accalia

/me hums happily while writing terrible fanfiction about a rat that is on a quest to become a bad enough dude to save the president from the presidents daughter who turns out to be a reptilian alien from outer space.

/me giggles evily at the yaoi scene that happens about half way through