Windows needs an undo button.
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I think I see your problem
I have the hardware to support it. There's no point in having hardware that supports high graphics options and not using them.
I don't give a shit if you can "see" it, human senses are complete trash. The question is: can you measure it?
Idiot. The reason I can see it is because it affects the number of frames per second the graphics cards are rendering. So the answer is yes.
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Fuck it, I'm gonna pre-empt it:
Configuration file is a mess in Notepad in Windows.
Mednafen's settings file currently uses UN*X-style line breaks, which Notepad does not handle very well. Use Notepad++ instead.
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I have the hardware to support it. There's no point in having hardware that supports high graphics options and not using them.
You are aware the NVIDIA 5xx series is three or four generations old now? Even a mid-range 9xx series will blow dual 570s out of the water.
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FUCK YOU DISCOURSE
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Lies. Wrong.
The entire POINT of windowed fullscreen is that the game fills the screen (at desktop resolution) but doesn't ask the OS for exclusive access to it-- which means stuff like Alt-Tab just fucking works correctly without the game crashing half the time because terrible shitty game developers always fuck it up.
Well, yes, but what prevents the game from changing resolution? There's still ChangeDisplaySettingsEx you know."Oh BTW this game library we picked is totally broken for keyboards, so. Uh. Yeah."
Actually, it's just bad programming on application's side. SDL handles keyboards perfectly.
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You have to use >
Because Duckhorse
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You are aware the NVIDIA 5xx series is three or four generations old now? Even a mid-range 9xx series will blow dual 570s out of the water.
I'm aware of that. This computer is 4 or so years old now too.
It's still good enough to run most games at full graphics options unless they use DirectX 11 Tessellation.
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Idiot.
I'm the one asking for concrete evidence. People "see" shit all the time that isn't there; you need data or you ain't got shit.
The reason I can see it is because it affects the number of frames per second the graphics cards are rendering. So the answer is yes.
Right; but there are a million tools that will TELL you the FPS without you having to rely on your shitty human senses. Which of those tools did you use when making this assessment? What was the difference in performance? Did you run the test multiple times to control for transient issues?
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When using ALSA sound output under linux, the "sound.device" setting "default" is Mednafen's default, AKA "hw:0", not ALSA's "default". If you want to use ALSA's "default", use "sexyal-literal-default".
Granted, that one's really truly stupid.
"default" should be default and not whatever guesswork the emulator does.
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Actually, it's just bad programming on application's side. SDL handles keyboards perfectly.
I think they're just overly cautious. I never noticed any bad lag when using a keyboard with it.
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So why are you recommending this shitty broken shit?
Notepad is TRWTF. Every other text editor known to man handles
\r\nand\nfine.Inb4 pendantic
$stupidly_obscure_editordoesn't!
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Well, yes, but what prevents the game from changing resolution?
Convention?
There isn't a "OS police officer" with "executable handcuffs" that will "arrest" the software, if that's what you're implying. WTF? This is like asking, "what prevents the program from writing the word 'fuck' on the screen?" Nothing!
Yes, any program can change screen resolution at any time. (Arguably they shouldn't be able to, but that's a decision Microsoft made many decades ago and it still holds.) Nothing prevents them from doing this.
Actually, it's just bad programming on application's side. SDL handles keyboards perfectly.
Whatever, the point is: don't, on your product website, say, "oh BTW this feature of our product works like shit SHRUG!" and expect people to still want to download it.
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Because it works?
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Arguably they shouldn't be able to
QFT
But @Gaska - I have never seen a game change the screen resolution when in windowed mode. If one did that, I would seriously reconsider playing that game...
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Because it works?
I've seen about 17 things on their website alone to lead me to believe: no it does not.
Not to mention, they even ADMIT it doesn't work in Windows 8 unless in full-screen mode. Right there on the download page.
So this is the open source version of the word "works", which basically means, "kind of maybe sort of works I guess if you're lucky."
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I'm the one asking for concrete evidence. People "see" shit all the time that isn't there; you need data or you ain't got shit.
It's ironic in two ways:First, because eyes are asynchronous analog devices which have their output hardwired into the brain which performs heavy preprocessing of images, and also does advanced interpolation between images, and presents the image in a format we cannot decode (yet), it is simply impossible to present concrete evidence of someone seeing anything at all.
Second, you can easily gather data by using FPS counters like FRAPS, but even if there is FPS drop, it doesn't prove it's perceivable.
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Not to mention, they even ADMIT it doesn't work in Windows 8 unless in full-screen mode. Right there on the download page.
Irrelevant. Using any CLI application on Windows leads to suicide. Which is why I don't do it.
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Actually, I was lying.
nslookupon Windows doesn't make me suicidal.
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You are aware the NVIDIA 5xx series is three or four generations old now? Even a mid-range 9xx series will blow dual 570s out of the water.
There's some weird mental block in the minds of people who know and care about graphics cards, where they seem to think that someone who doesn't know how many generations old a 5xx series is will be perfectly aware of how good a 9xx series is, and perfectly able to compare them.
To those of us who don't follow them, the model numbers are pretty much gibberish
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Whatever, the point is: don't, on your product website, say, "oh BTW this feature of our product works like shit SHRUG!" and expect people to still want to download it.
They don't expect it. They're open source - they don't get any benefit from people using their software.But @Gaska - I have never seen a game change the screen resolution when in windowed mode.
OK, I admit I was wrong. Just tested with Europa Universalis IV and Far Cry 4 - the former ignores resolution setting when set to "Fullscreen (Windowed)", the latter changes the rendering resolution without affecting real resolution.
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To those of us who don't follow them, the model numbers are pretty much gibberish
QFFT
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I have never seen a game change the screen resolution when in windowed mode
When I was a teenager, I somehow screwed up my PC settings such that I could not see anything due to the resolution being wrong after rebooting until I ran a game called "Your Notebook (with help from Amelia)", whose preferred screen resolution (which it would force my system into) worked just fine. I would then alt-tab out, kill the game, and leave the resolution where it was.
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They don't expect it. They're open source - they don't get any benefit from people using their software.
Well fine, but could they take a tiny bit of pride in their work maybe?
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The first number is (roughly) incremented every year.
Higher is better for the middle number.
'm' at the end means it's a mobile version.
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Which perfectly explains why a 650Ti BOOSTZ! is apparently better than a 750. And 670 was worse than both. Or so I've been told. Or misremember. It was something idiotic like that in any case.
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well the Ti stuff is the high-end special stuff. I'm talking just general cards.
The first number is (roughly) incremented every year.
Higher is better for the middle number.
'm' at the end means it's a mobile version.Ti at the end means it's one of the better-performing models and probably outclasses anything that's not Ti for that generation and the next or so.I've got a mid-range 840m in my laptop and a (very nice) 970 at home in my desktop. The 970 is basically a beast, the 840m can handle... most stuff I'd run on a laptop.
Oh and this is just NVidia stuff. ATI can go
diedisappear from the world
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Irrelevant. Using any CLI application on Windows leads to suicide. Which is why I don't do it.
The bigger question is why would ANYBODY use (or MAKE!?) a CLI GAME EMULATOR!? GAMES ARE NOTHING BUT GUIS! EVEN OLD ONES! IT MAKES NO SENSE! What the fuck is wrong with open source people? Are they all just retarded!?
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How about Boost? What's Boost? How is it boosted? Is it just overclocked? Does it have more shader pipelines? Turbocharged fans? WHAT?
See, you can make sense of it, but when I randomly need to buy a GPU I'm fucking lost because I don't follow that shit. And I didn't even start looking at AMD yet.
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CLI and GUI are not mutex...
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Absolutely no idea, because I DGAF
I just look at the newer generation cards when I need to get one, usually the *70 series cards are a good deal for the money. The *80 ones are generally the top-of-the-line ones for the numeric class. Don't get something with a low rating on
$online_shopping_site, if you get a super-cheap card it's probably gonna die on you, stuff like that.Basically, my GTX-970 handles everything I need it to and probably will for the forseeable future... without any TURBO_BOOSTZ or ULTRA-SHADR TECNOLOGAE!
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See Also: Dwarf Fortress
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I've seen about 17 things on their website alone to lead me to believe: no it does not.
Not to mention, they even ADMIT it doesn't work in Windows 8 unless in full-screen mode. Right there on the download page.
So this is the open source version of the word "works", which basically means, "kind of maybe sort of works I guess if you're lucky."
Yeah I'm happy sticking to ZSNES. A few menus for configuring control pads, loading the game, and saving/restoring states. I really don't know what benefit a typical gamer would get out of this over the top complicated ones.
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CLI and GUI are not mutex...
Right; but the obvious priority here is the GUI. Writing the CLI first makes no damned sense at all.
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Apart from the ones that aren't:
So that emulator plays Zork?
OH WAIT YOU'RE JUST BEING A PEDNATIC DICKWEED fuck off.
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To be fair, Windows hardware is non-flammable.
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mednafen is very much an anomaly, though.
SNES9x and higan have ordinary menus. You know, with title bar, menu bar and the game in a rectangle below.ZSNES -for anyone who doesn't know it - has some weird built-in overlay with weird window management with a weird built-in toolkit and overall weird weirdness.
It looks like something you'd expect to see in the DOS-era.
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Which perfectly explains why a 650Ti BOOSTZ! is apparently better than a 750.
Numering fuckup. the 650 ti was a refresh of the 650; the boost was a refresh of the ti. The ti didn't make a huge performance gain, but the boost did.
Any of the 650s should be worse than a 670, though, unless there was something wrong with the 670.
Honestly? I just go to Toms Hardware and consider buying the recommended model that meets my budget.
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Weird and old looking sure, but also, crucially, simple and it works.
Plus that background snow it has going on. So atmospheric!
http://imagenes.es.sftcdn.net/es/scrn/13000/13557/zsnes-10.jpg
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The few times I used it, I chose FIRE.
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SNES9x and higan have ordinary menus. You know, with title bar, menu bar and the game in a rectangle below.
Just posting evidenceseses:
Because I feel like it.
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Basically, my GTX-970 handles everything I need it to and probably will for the forseeable future... without any TURBO_BOOSTZ or ULTRA-SHADR TECNOLOGAE!
You haven't touched on GT, GTX, GTã or whatever else there is. I get an irrational anger whenever II have to look at different cards, which is why I'm perfectly ahppy these days to take my brother's old ones off his hands when he upgrades. No idea what my current card is, but Skyrim autodetected to high settings and that's plenty good enough for me
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Well fine, but could they take a tiny bit of pride in their work maybe?
Oh, they do - but only the emulator part, not all the things around the emulator part without which it's worthless no matter how fast or precisely it works.The bigger question is why would ANYBODY use (or MAKE!?) a CLI GAME EMULATOR!? GAMES ARE NOTHING BUT GUIS! EVEN OLD ONES! IT MAKES NO SENSE! What the fuck is wrong with open source people? Are they all just retarded!?
CLI doesn't imply no graphics. Also, emulators don't need GUI for anything - it just needs to gather raw keyboard/gamepad input and have a piece of screen to draw on. Note that a piece of screen to draw on isn't enough to call it GUI.
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CLI doesn't imply no graphics.
Yes it does.
Also, emulators don't need GUI for anything
Yes it does. We even saw a blurb here about how it scribbles text over the emulated game when you're setting up a joystick. That's a GUI, it's just a really, really, really shitty one made by idiots.
Note that a piece of screen to draw on isn't enough to call it GUI.
I don't know where you draw the line, but if it's drawing prompts over the emulated game, it has a GUI, just an unbelievably shitty one.
In any case, it's stupid to talk about emulator accuracy when people like Aliceif are running it on an OS that doesn't even have its shit together enough to produce low-latency audio.
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Right; but there are a million tools that will TELL you the FPS without you having to rely on your shitty human senses. Which of those tools did you use when making this assessment? What was the difference in performance? Did you run the test multiple times to control for transient issues?
I don't remember which one I was using a few years ago when I still played WoW (which is when I first noticed this was still a problem on modern hardware).
However, I also saw it happening a few weeks ago in Batman: Arkham City using XSplit.
I should probably note that Arkham City is also how I know DX11 Tessellation causes framerate issues for me.
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When I was a teenager, I somehow screwed up my PC settings such that I could not see anything due to the resolution being wrong after rebooting until I ran a game called "Your Notebook (with help from Amelia)", whose preferred screen resolution (which it would force my system into) worked just fine. I would then alt-tab out, kill the game, and leave the resolution where it was.
This is why Safe Mode resets the display resolution. I think it resets to 800x600 in Windows Vista and newer, 640x480 in Windows XP and older.
The first number is (roughly) incremented every year.
Except when nVidia decides to release two lines at the same time like they did with the 4x0 and 5x0 lines.
usually the *70 series cards are a good deal for the money. The *80 ones are generally the top-of-the-line ones for the numeric class.
Technically, the *90 ones are the top-of-the-line ones for the numeric class.
Then again, the *90 cards are just two *70 processors connected via SLI on a single board. That also tend to overheat and should be avoided because of it.Oh, and just to screw with people, nVidia has dropped numbers for its new boards. The latest cards they have are:
And yes, these are already in stores... and cost over $1000 each.
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has dropped numbers
I thought these were just a limited special deal like the original TITAN.
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I thought these were just a limited special deal like the original TITAN.
No idea, all I knew is they've been advertising the hell out of it.
On a totally different subject, I saw nVidia GeForce updated itself yesterday. I need to go find the option to disable that as if you let it do that, it always starts tossing errors involving the nVidia Control Panel dll every time GeForce Experience starts.
Zork - Wikipedia
