Your brain is tiny but apparently people on this forum are now baby wimps who are afraid of scary words oh noes!!!
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Continuing the discussion from Heretical Fonting:
well if you have any that can be looked up when you are on a proper PC i would be very interested in reading them.
Google brings up this study. The lowest brain size they found that could be considered "normal functioning" was 960cc. Homo Erectus averaged around 900cc, IIRC. I believe it's generally agreed-on that Erectus used fire, although they were probably incapable of lighting new fires (they had to preserve one they found from a lightning strike or what-not. See: Quest For Fire, an excellent scientifically-accurate, film.) Africanus was more like 580cc.
Anyway, if you're gonna draw dog-people, make sure to give them a human-sized cranium, is all I'm saying.
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Anyway, if you're gonna draw dog-people, make sure to give them a human-sized cranium, is all I'm saying.
Yeah, because if someone is drawing anthropomorphic animals, it is really important that they be anatomically correct. For whatever the hell "anatomically correct" means in this discussion.
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Well considering these people are drawing the dog-people so they can imagine fucking them, you'd hope they'd want to get the brain size past "bestiality" levels. You'd hope.
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Well considering these people are drawing the dog-people so they can imagine fucking them
So, when those artists were drawing official Sonic artwork back in the 90s, was that just because they wanted to fuck them?Seriously, not everyone who draws anthros wants to fuck them. Just like not everyone who draws humans wants to fuck them.
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So, when those artists were drawing official Sonic artwork back in the 90s, was that just because they wanted to fuck them?
Probably.
At least Sonic characters have huge fucking heads.
Seriously, not everyone who draws anthros wants to fuck them. Just like not everyone who draws humans wants to fuck them.
Right; and not every vegetarian is like their fellow-vegetarian Hitler. But most are.
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Wow... That's the fastest Godwinning I've ever seen...
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Wow... That's the fastest Godwinning I've ever seen...
But @blakeyrat finally has a valid point.
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What in the fuck have I just read? o.O
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Pure genius.
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Google brings up this study.
Hmm... An interesting study indeed. I'll need to spend some more time diving into their references for further background, but initially yes that seems reasonable estimate of minimum cranial size for sapience, at least for mamalian brain structures.
As we have only the one data point for true sapient creatures we should reserve judgement as provisional for other brain structures. While that volume is likely a good first order estimate for minimum capacity for other orders of creatures their differing brain structures may have significant impact on the minimum. This impact may indeed act in either direction depending on the exact nature of the difference in brain structure.
Lacking further data points the minimum brain size for sapience in non primate species, and to a greater extent non-mamalian species, we must reserve final judgement.
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I think there's a problem with this theory. It's easy to look at someone's avatar and say, "tiny head". But I've seen some of these characters in real life and the reality is a bit different.
To wit:
I make his head to have a cranial volume of, approximately, a whopping 4000 cc. What about it?
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Hitler was a genius.
So then blakeyrat... IS HITLER!
Does that make accalia a jew or how does that even work?
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Seems to work, he's pulling some hot tail.
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I don't think he's ever denied it.
I for one have never seen them in the same room at the same time.
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I for one have never seen them in the same room at the same time.
That's enough proof for me.
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I, for one, think it is unlikely that H and @B are the same person. I would have expected him to run after Stauffenberg and shon him how to Do It Right if they were...
... I've spent the last five minutes chasing the edit box on my ipad trying to fix the spellaring (^shon^shown) but it won't let me. @discoursebot !
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But @blakeyrat finally has a valid point.
About minimum brain sizes? No-one's denying he doesn't
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About minimum brain sizes?
No, that wasn't his point. He just copied stuff off the internet. He's obviously experienced vegetarians, however.
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He's obviously experienced vegetarians, however.
YMMV. In my own experience, the vast majority of vegetarians I've run across have been vegetarian for religious/cultural reasons (i.e., Indian coworkers), and they, in my experience, are not at all pushy about it. As for the PETA types, stuff them in fur suits and make them live in the woods with the animals they love so much. During hunting season.
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He's obviously experienced vegetarians, however.
Where do you stand on vegetarians who eat fish?
<inb4 "on their windpipes"
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As for the PETA types, stuff them in fur suits and make them live in the woods with the animals they love so much. During hunting season.
Can we ship all the people screaming about EM radiation with them as well? So they can hide in a cave and escape all that evil "light" thing that's giving them cancer?
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Where do you stand on vegetarians who eat fish?
I have found that it's easiest to stand on people's back while they lie on their stomach. But then, with imaginary people I suppose that doesn't matter so much.
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So, let's start with blakey's assertion that there's a minimum brain size required for human-level intelligence.
Already, there's a problem: the title of the paper.
HUMAN EVOLUTION EXPANDED BRAINS TO INCREASE EXPERTISE CAPACITY, NOT IQ
It's all-caps in the paper, and no, I'm not changing it. But it does quite clearly state that brain size increased to allow more storage, not more intelligence, which rather weakens the original assertion. It's further weakened by the paper also stating that brain size only contributes about 14% to IQ; a minimum of 74% comes from other factors. And that's based on flawed studies, so even 14% could be too high.
Without a detailed reading, I can't draw any definitive conclusions. But equally, that paper simply isn't enough to say that e.g. 'dog-boy' needs a human-sized brain to have human-level intelligence.
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So they can hide in a cave and escape all that evil "light" thing that's giving them cancer?
I have no objections, as long as I don't have to hear them complaining about the radon in the cave.
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It's further weakened by the paper also stating that brain size only contributes about 14% to IQ; a minimum of 74% comes from other factors.
Of course. It's mostly about the shape and bumps on your head.
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bumps on your head
#I R SMART!
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the vast majority of vegetarians I've run across have been vegetarian for religious/cultural reasons (i.e., Indian coworkers), and they, in my experience, are not at all pushy about it.
If they applied to an art school and got rejected, how do you think they'd take it?
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OBJECTION!
You're assuming that the dog people (or hedgehog people) would have evolved naturally. It's instead perfectly possible, and I even dare say more likely, that they were genetically engineered by humans.
If that were the case, they wouldn't be subject to the limitations of natural selection. Intelligence can often design systems much more efficient than evolution (it's a fallacy that natural selection produces "perfect" results, even given enough time) so we would probably be able to shrink the brain a bit.
I have even read claims that it should be possible, when technology is advanced enough, to create tiny electronic devices that do the same operations as a neuron but in a fraction of the space (and many orders of magnitude faster, since neurons have firing speeds of 200Hz at most) meaning we could produce really small electronic brains.
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Where do you stand on vegetarians who eat fish?
I typically try to stand on their arms so they won't flail as much.
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hanzo and such
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Check my raw, you were both 'd
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You're assuming that the dog people (or hedgehog people) would have evolved naturally. It's instead perfectly possible, and I even dare say more likely, that they were genetically engineered by humans.
Hand-clouds.
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We already discussed the cyborg thing in the other thread with Yamifgeywrgewy and it can't work because hand-clouds.
Or paw-cloud I guess.
I had to use Google Image Search because the original was like 150 pixels, WTF.
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That looks like he's exhaling something more than any sort of "hand-cloud"...
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Bullshit, that is clearly hand-cloud.
In any case, if this art was sci-fi he'd have a cellphone. He does not, therefore fantasy, therefore no cyborgs.
... I should totally do a YouTube series with Rantis where we just look at fantasy art and explain it, this shit's hilarious.
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Quick experiment: is it sci-fi now?
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Ah, the dog-man must have a cyber-brain.
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I make his head to have a cranial volume of, approximately, a whopping 4000 cc. What about it?
Oh god, that's like the cranial capacity of the freaking elephant man.
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I should totally do a YouTube series with Rantis where we just look at fantasy art and explain it, this shit's hilarious.
I'd totally watch that.
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I humor schooled 11 posts to a new topic: Your car's sense of humor is tiny but not as tiny as blakey's penis
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He was *awful* at drawing, though.