Star trek: the animated series has cool aliens (the blakeyrat is watching star trek thread)
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Most of it's just bad writing, but perhaps there's a rule against earrings but not one against sashes, because no Klingon had ever served in Starfleet, and they didn't feel it necessary?
Troi, IIRC, was originally supposed to be a civilian--it wouldn't make sense for her to wear a uniform, just like the few family members we see don't wear them. They probably retconned that away at some point.
Frankly, Ro struck me as the kind of person who would have come up with a stupid argument for the earring, rather than "what about that guy?" because she liked to argue.
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Frankly, Ro struck me as the kind of person who would have come up with a stupid argument for the earring, rather than "what about that guy?" because she liked to argue.
Yeah. The best thing about Ro (and Barkley) is that they were both just as competent as the regular Starfleet guys they were working with, they just didn't buy into the bullshit like everybody else on the ship. For different reasons.
It kind of showed the world, "hey, you don't have to fit in with the group perfectly to be good at what you do, you can kind of do your own thing." That's as good message to have. Especially in that episode where Barkley knew, KNEW, something was wrong with the transporter and everybody else thought he was crazy. I loved that episode.
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The best line in Star Trek is in the original series, Trouble with Tribbles, where Kirk goes:
Capt. Kirk: As Captain, I want two things done. First, find Cyrano Jones, and second ... close that door.
Dude had perfect comic timing on that line.
QFT!
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did he just hate being on the show?
... Robert Beltran, who played Chakotay, recently gave an honest and extensive interview to StarTrek.com, and he wasn’t shy about airing his grievances about the series.
Star Trek's Robert Beltran On His Voyager Regrets
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One of Beltran’s biggest complaints was the feeling that Chakotay wasn’t being given the relationships that would truly help define his character. He says that he enjoyed the early episodes that highlighted the relationship between former Maquis member Chakotay and Captain Janeway (Kate Mulgrew). “After Seska (Martha Hackett) left, it was only that relationship with the captain that had depth to it. Chakotay and Tuvok didn’t have much. Chakotay and Paris didn’t have much. Chakotay and the other characters, there wasn’t much of a relationship there.”
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He says that once Seven of Nine joined the crew, new showrunner Brannon Braga and the writers began to downplay some characters — Chakotay, Tuvok (Tim Russ), Kim (Garrett Wang), and Neelix (Ethan Phillips) — and turn more focus on the Captain, the holographic Doctor (Robert Picardo), and the Borg in the slinky silver catsuit.I really am shocked that he never got fired... Maybe he just has a great agent.
Or maybe, and this is just speculation on my part, Political Correctness combined with heavy support from the Latino community. I don't know if there was any pressure to keep him on the show, but he appears to have been quite popular in the Latino community. He won one, and was nominated for three more, outstanding actor or outstanding performance awards from Latino organizations for his work in Voyager, without ever having been nominated for any award from the general movie, TV or theatre communities.
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He won one, and was nominated for three more, outstanding actor or outstanding performance awards
Which demonstrates "best X" and "best ethnic X" are not necessarily the same thing. Latinos should be insulted that his wooden acting was even considered for an award.
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I must point out that the awards were for "outstanding", not "best". There are many reasons something could be outstanding without being good. It could be simply that he was highly visible and successful (or outstandingly bad :) ).
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Ima go with "outstandingly bad."
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A whole planet of creatures from the black lagoon:
EDIT: YES!!! Reverse-scuba suits, like in Futurama:
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Oh noes Kzins!
They look only... 50 times less stupid than the Kilrathi in that Wing Commander movie.
Kind of surprised, even in 1973, Niven allowed his short story to be adapted in Star Trek The Animated Series of all places. Weird. EDIT: good adaptation, though, that was one of the best episodes.
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Why, oh why, are Starfleet power systems so bloody fragile? You'd think someone would have figured out that, you know, redundant power systems and protective relays were a good idea long before then!
Budget cuts.
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Expanding the topic a bit more: I took a "Which Sci-Fi Character Are You?" survey and was surprised it returned this:
For one thing I'm not always calm under pressure, and I can do plenty of wrong!
I'd be curious to know the relative character that mostly fits some of you all?
The relative-in-law who sent me the survey came out to be Anakin Skywalker. I've asked him to keep his distance henceforth, just in case... ;-)
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It's always amusing to see where people's suspension of disbelief occurs with a show like Star Trek.
Picard has the wrong accent‽ How outrageously stupid!
Well suspending disbelief doesn't really apply to something that's just plain wrong.
I can buy into all their fancy tech and whatnot as something that "might" happen, but French dudes are never going to sound like Englishmen.
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That would require like up to 3 new frames of animation, they don't have the budget for that.
Even as a kid - I noticed that.
Nobody moves - it's (barely) one step up from frame-by-frame moving cardboard cutouts around.
Oh - look, we have an excuse to use aliens that we couldn't use in a live show!!
The horror of this show taught me that the world was not, in fact, a safe and wonderful place.
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I'd be curious to know the relative character that mostly fits some of you all?
I'm another Picard.
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Yoda, I am.
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Even as a kid - I noticed that.
Nobody moves - it's (barely) one step up from frame-by-frame moving cardboard cutouts around.
Still a larger animation budget than most animes. Dragonball Z had about 5-6 new frames of animation an episode. I once saw an anime called .Net Hack//HackNet Cyber something and it consisted literally of nothing of the back of character's heads with slowly scrolling backgrounds.
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I must point out that DBZ represents animation a couple decades ago. The other you're referring to, .Hack//, is only good in game and movie form. They can't have had much of a budget. Still, you get occasional ones like Beck and Natsu no Sora, which are shockingly badly animated but fairly great.
Now that everything isn't done as cels, animation is a lot cheaper. Anything by P.A. Works is pretty awesomely well done; they like to do things like animate a giant party in some city's China Town (Canaan) or, even in their first attempt ever (True Tears) animate people walking past windows inside a school in the distance.
Then you get studios like Shaft, who animate people talking or moving their heads at an unusually high framerate, but do pans over motionless images for the rest of it.
tl;dr: Animation iz da weerdz
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I must point out that DBZ represents animation a couple decades ago.
So? Does that imply that the animation in Bambi must be terrible, because it came out in the 1940s? What the holy heck does the date have to do with the quality of hand-drawn animation? (Hint: nothing. Absolutely nothing at all. It's not like CGI.)
even in their first attempt ever (True Tears) animate people walking past windows inside a school in the distance.
Ooo my spine's tingling.
tl;dr: Animation iz da weerdz
The takeaway here is: anime sucks ass.
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Possibly so. Some is animated well, though.
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Clip re-use is one thing -
My kids have already noticed (in like, 3 episodes) that "Black Sheep Squadron" has only like six scenes worth of flight footage. "Shsssh kids...doesn't matter... Corsairs are AWESOME!!"
My memory of TOS-A was these ridiculous, not-animated, cut-outs popping into scenes from bizarre angles...
I loved TOS and could not even bear to watch the animated series.
HOWEVER, I in honor of the debt owed to you for Kerbel-joy...
Challenge: Pick one episode of the animated series for my/our amazement and I will see if I can stomach it!
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Clip re-use is one thing -
My kids have already noticed (in like, 3 episodes) that "Black Sheep Squadron" has only like six scenes worth of flight footage. "Shsssh kids...doesn't matter... Corsairs are AWESOME!!"
Explain to them that it used to be impossible to watch these episodes any faster than once a week, and frail human memory is the reason nobody noticed/cared that the flight footage was identical.
Shows before about 2004 or so weren't meant to be binged.
Challenge: Pick one episode of the animated series for my/our amazement and I will see if I can stomach it!
I'm sure this will produce some kind of emo thread in the Meta category, but here goes anyway:
Why do you think I give a shit whether or not you enjoy the show? Watch if you want, don't if you don't. If you want an episode recommendation (which I guess is kind of what you're asking for?) there's one just a few posts up.
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Explain to them that it used to be impossible to watch these episodes any faster than once a week,
...which is exactly how we watch them now!...which I guess is kind of what you're asking for?) there's one just a few posts up.
Narrator: "Summarizing last hour's epsiode:" ;)
U: "TOS Animated is great!! (If you haven't seen it maybe you guys should check it out!)"
IJ: "Dude. No, just No."
IJ: "... but to be fair I'll try one."
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U: "TOS Animated is great!! (If you haven't seen it maybe you guys should check it out!)"
Who's "U"? (Me? Because I never said anything remotely like that.)
Whatever, I have no clue what anybody's talking about.
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Who's "U"? (Me? Because I never said anything remotely like that.)
Alrighty then, improper inference on my part...
and back to my usual programming of bad type casting and out-of-memory errors.
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I've never even heard of this asshole:
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I'm guessing the questionnaire thought you were some kind of hopeless romantic? That's Marcus Cole from Babylon 5. If you like sci-fi even a little bit you need to watch that series.
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A friend has tried to get me started on that. I've watched a bit, and he says it gets better, but the start is cringeworthy to the max.
Besides, he says I also have to make it through Legend of the Galactic Heroes, which is rather epic but certainly long.
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He wasn't even from Babylon 5, wasn't he from the spinoff? White Knight or whatever? Space Knight? Knight Rider in space? (Looks it up.) Oh, Crusade.
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Don't watch the pilot movie, it sucks. Big time.
The first season is a bit Star Trek-like with episodes that stand on their own, but by the second season it started turning into a long-running drama. Overall the story is epic.
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No, he wasn't in Crusade. Which was actually a decent show by the way, except it got canned after 13 episodes for some reason.
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Oh. Whatever, I never watched a lot of B5 and what I did watch was kind of scattered and out-of-order. Pretty damned obscure character to put in your "what sci-fi character am I?" quiz, though.
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Not really, but I can see why you'd think that if you only saw parts of the show out-of-order. I doubt anything makes sense out-of-order.
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Off the top of my head, I can name Sheridan, Garibaldi, Londo, Kosh-- uh that Russian chick...
That evidence points to whats-is-name up there not being very memorable.
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IIRC he was really big but only for half a season or so. Easy to miss, but memorable if you saw that story arc. [spoiler]Especially how he dies.[/spoiler]
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At least with LOGH, all I have to deal with is boredom as I wait for the plot to start progressing. I was something like 30 episodes in when I last watched it, and there was a pretty major plot development, so I think the real story is finally on now. It's mostly about two opposing generals, and the politics of their empires. If I knew Japanese well enough, I'd read the novels. Old sci-fi is generally awesome.
But my friends are urging me to finish it quickly, since it's getting re-animated...
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OK, I tried that stupid survey thingy and didn't get a SciFi character but one from a medieval european style fantasy setting. Does that link in people's results really lead to the same survey?
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What, you don't like The Space Knights of the Space Round Space Table in Space? I call racism.
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Question 3:
If killing your best friend would make you immortal, would you do it?
Life sucks ass, why the fuck would I want MORE of it?!
I got this asshole too:
WHO THE FUCK IS THIS ASSHOLE!
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Did you somehow forget the conversation from like 2 posts ago?
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Yes. Obviously I literally meant that I forgot the conversation from two posts before and was not making a joke. You are so incredibly perceptive, mott555. And you have a great sense of humor, nothing whooshes over your head.
I'm gonna make a bagel.
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Sweet:
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OK, so I'm not the only one.
Mine:
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Possibly far too honorable for your persona, but attitude matches. :-p
Edit: @bort and @blakeyrat: He invokes 'den shah' (sp?), meaning 'to the death' in defense of Delenn. And death there was. I'll leave it at that so I don't spoil it for you, but here's a preview leading into it: Babylon 5: Marcus at his best: http://youtu.be/WExfCUVcjTg
Not the other link. Discourse!!!!!
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Mind explaining this one to me? I'm afraid it just went *whoosh*...
OK, so I'm not the only one.
Same holds for you...
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Mind explaining this one to me? I'm afraid it just went whoosh...
I took the quiz and got Elrond. That made me happy.
I guess @locallunatic is talking about people getting fantasy characters rather than SF characters.
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I guess @locallunatic is talking about people getting fantasy characters rather than SF characters.
Yeah I was.
Same holds for you...
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While I arrived at this part:
I guess @locallunatic is talking about people getting fantasy characters rather than SF characters.
this:
@boomzilla said:I took the quiz and got Elrond.
and:
Raistlin Majere
kind of sailed past me. I'll post my results when I get home, if I can remember to do so...then again, I'm not sure just what any of the choices would do when confronted with my forum account's namesake. (Which happens to be my main character from Eve Online, to preempt the obvious *whoosh* noise.)
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Stumbled on a trailer for a new Star Trek Movie by accident today:
On that page (emphasis mine):
About Star Trek Horizon
Star Trek: Horizon is a feature-length film, made by fans in love with Star Trek, that is set during the time of Enterprise (the fifth Star Trek series). It is our goal to create a feature film that is worthy of the name Star Trek and that can close out the story threads that were left hanging after Enterprise’s untimely cancellation in 2005.
However, if you have not seen any previous Star Trek films or TV series, this close tie to Enterprise is not cause to worry. While this film will close out story threads that began in Enterprise, it will also certainly tell an original story and be able to stand alone as a science fiction feature film.
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Big surprise there.
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I didn't screenshot the telepathic slug aliens because 1) I forgot and 2) that episode had too goddamned cliches in it.
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