So long and thanks for all the bugs!
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As I have said before, you are my peeps:
I truly don't, though! I like this community. Angry programmers is my bread and butter. This is my people, man. You are my people.
Bring it in. Right here.
If nothing else, you guys are amazing software testers:
Possibly, but the number of communities we have with this high a level of engagement on Discourse is very small. And very few of them have the same technical skill and testing (and frankly, the justified hatred and suspicion of bad software that WTF implies) backgrounds necessary to dig out pernicious, long term bugs in Discourse.
(it is weird the Ember.js community was not better at this with their Discourse instance.)
I am sure over time as we iron issues out there will be less need (or even desire) to be fully engaged on wtf, but I for one think the TDWTF community has done more to improve Discourse than anything since boing boing. This deserves our attention because a) they have uncovered a ton of very legit bugs and b) I want to demonstrate that we are really serious about fixing them.
Also c) this is exactly the kick in the ass we need on the run-up to shipping V1.
Thanks for that collective kick in the ass -- we needed it, as V1 is coming. Discourse is an open source project, now and forever, that we hope benefits discussion across the entire web. All your suggestions, bugs, and improvements go directly back to the rest of the world, for free, forever. Thank you for being a part of it.
To show our appreciation for your testing efforts here, and for all the great bugs you guys uncovered -- we're happy to send anyone who wants them a set of free stickers: Discourse, Stack Overflow, Stack Exchange. Just fill out this brief Google Doc so we know where to mail them:
WTF has been on Discourse almost 60 days now. We believe most of the major issues are resolved, so we're now closing the door on this chapter of our involvement in tdwtf -- the Discourse team members will move on.
In the future, we won't be around on this site except extremely sporadically, so please escalate bugs to http://meta.discourse.org if you feel they are serious enough to warrant our attention.
So long -- and thanks for all the bugs.
Filed under: And that's all I have to say about that.
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you know where I live and also I don't need the stickers
Thx.
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the Discourse team members will move on
Hey, don't think you can get away that easily! You guys have been most entertaining.
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Yeah, if @codinghorror leaves we need @blakeyrat back!
Who else is gonna show us that we're Doing it Wrong™?
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Against my better judgement, I have submitted my details. To the person we've been tormenting for months.
How could this go wrong? >>
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I'm not sure what I'm supposed to put on address lines 4-5. Some kind of universe-galaxy-solar-system thing?
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What would I do with those stickers? Oh wait! I have three little kids! Free child entertainment!
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Some kind of universe-galaxy-solar-system thing?
Shouldn't that be the other way around? Usually mail addressing has the most precise information first.
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I'm not sure what I'm supposed to put on address lines 4-5. Some kind of universe-galaxy-solar-system thing?
Just put it as ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha
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Mostly. But then there's the part where it goes city-state-postal code.
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So you propose solar system, universe, galaxy?
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Thanks for playing Jeff. This was incredibly entertaining.
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We believe most of the major issues are resolved,
Wrong. We still have InfiniscrollTM.
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Yea, I'm sad to see @codingwhorror leave... he was a great @blakeyrant replacement, but now he's gone and we're not getting @blakeyrat back in exchange.
I demand one or the other!
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Against my better judgement, I have submitted my details. To the person we've been tormenting for months.
How could this go wrong? >>
That gives me an idea.
I shall give my registered email address along with some random address in the US of A.2900 E 1st Ave, Denver, CO 80206
How could that go wrong?
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So you propose solar system, universe, galaxy?
Did you design the American date format by any chance?
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You can't possible think I'm that old.
... Can you?
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And don't forget the still-broken search.
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Yea, I'm sad to see @codingwhorror leave... he was a great @blakeyrant replacement, but now he's gone and we're not getting @blakeyrat back in exchange.
I demand one or the other!
+1
Either way, I do hope that even if @codinghorror stops posting with his main account, he will at least stick around as @Nagesh .
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solar system, universe, galaxy
Did you design the American date format by any chance?
You can't possible think I'm that old.
... Can you?
He means, why did you list the 3 out of order. As in
solar system = day / universe = year / galaxy = month : month/day/year - Not quite the same, but still all jacked up.
But nevermind because I see now where ben suggested it from the way postal codes go:
@ben_lubar said:Mostly. But then there's the part where it goes city-state-postal code.
ISO FOR LIFE YYYY-MM-DD
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qpDFXPAyXA&feature=kp
Ah well, let's face it, even though we've had our arguments, it was fun. And at least you guys sometimes do listen to the community, which can't be said about a lot of developers, open source or not.
Good luck with V1. After these two months, I have to say - Discourse still pisses me off sometimes, but it's not that bad. It's not the next sliced bread, but it can work.
Actually, wait a second...
FUCKING HELL THIS THING IS CANCER AND EBOLA AT THE SAME TIME FIGHTING IT OFF
Filed under: yeah, it's that youtube onebox refreshing at each letter thing again
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Odd because mine doesn't do that, but maybe I haven't left it open long enough because it's growing as I type. Only at 86k right now though.
89k
92k
100k
And I have a separate tab that contains an interactive SVG map of the US drawn by javascript from JSON coordinates, and it's currently using a whopping 55k of memory.
Down to 77k now.
Definitely not seeing 1GB memory footprint on mine.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qpDFXPAyXA&feature=kp
Try pasting this link into your post first and then type away. It seems timestamp links have been fixed, but either HTTPS or that
feature=kp
thing throws it off.
EDIT: Yep, it's those
&feature=
parameters.
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I do see an increase in the memory when typing a post, regardless of content. I hit 100k+ while editing that last post, but once I had submitted it, my memory dropped back to 77k. That's presumably thanks to the super fancy preview mess going on.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qpDFXPAyXA&feature=kp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qpDFXPAyXA&feature=kp
Pasting your link into my link. I don't think it has to do with the "feature" part, it has to do with whether you're typing or not. It's sick... every character that you type causes the preview to reload entirely, and that just jacks the javascript memory usage all the way to max in a hurry. I'm at 450MB now for typing this paragraph.
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I do see an increase in the memory when typing a post, regardless of content. I hit 100k+ while editing that last post, but once I had submitted it, my memory dropped back to 77k. That's presumably thanks to the super fancy preview mess going on.
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I don't think it has to do with the "feature" part, it has to do with whether you're typing or not.
Yeah, but if you remove this part, it just pastes an image into your preview and doesn't refresh it when you're typing.
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I'm at 450MB now for typing this paragraph.
Yeah, but if you remove this part, it just pastes an image into your preview and doesn't refresh it when you're typing.
Ah, got ya. It definitely caused a full on memory leak in Chrome33 for me, because now it's using 513MB and never releasing.
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Ah, got ya. It definitely caused a full on memory leak in Chrome33 for me, because now it's using 513MB and never releasing.
No joke either, it appears to be IE6-style memory leakage... I reloaded the page and it still has 530MB of memory claimed. I didn't even know that type of thing was possible in Chrome.
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Ah, got ya. It definitely caused a full on memory leak in Chrome33 for me, because now it's using 513MB and never releasing.
It's probably not a leak. More likely that Chrome is just holding onto the available memory in case another big request comes through. I suspect it would be released if requested by the OS.
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It's probably not a leak. More likely that Chrome is just holding onto the available memory in case another big request comes through. I suspect it would be released if requested by the OS.
Well lets test that theory :)
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Testing the typing of things with a video linked to see how badly my memory gets jacked and whether the OS will be allowed to reclaim some of it once I'm done with my post and then once I reload the page.
Typing more and more and more and more because it does take a decent amount of text to really overload the memory with refreshes of this image. Another crazy part is that thanks to reloading the image, typing this post is chewing about 500KBps on my network because it keeps reloading it. If I were on mobile with a data plan, I'd be super pissed about this.... I suppose the lesson there is to not even LINK a video on mobile, much less actually watch one. Now I've used almost 1GB of memory, which leaves my poor system with less than 500MB of free ram. Time to open some senseless memory hogs like Visual Studio or Eclipse or something. Actually it is already starting to reclaim some memory, it dropped to 700MB just now. So it's not a leak, chrome just isn't releasing the massive amount that's being gobbled up.
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typing this post is chewing about 500KBps on my network because it keeps reloading it. If I were on mobile with a data plan, I'd be super pissed about this
At the very least, the above is a good reason why the &feature causing full reload on youtube videos should probably be looked into.
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typing this post is chewing about 500KBps on my network because it keeps reloading it
That's pretty scary.
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You can't leave yet! We're still finding more bugs!
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You can't leave yet! We're still finding more bugs!
Look on the bright side: from now on, when you post them, they won't be closed with WONTFIX.
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I'm not sure what I'm supposed to put on address lines 4-5. Some kind of universe-galaxy-solar-system thing?
European addresses can have so many lines. So. Many. Lines. Trust me on this. At least in the USA we have the courtesy to not have 5 line addresses.
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European addresses can have so many lines. So. Many. Lines. Trust me on this. At least in the USA we have the courtesy to not have 5 line addresses.
I still remember a meeting where I proposed to have a single textarea as an address field since the components of the address would never be useful, and my coworkers looked at me as though I had two heads.
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Aw, you didn't have to leave, Jeff, are we really that bad? I just wanted you to stop acting like an over-entitled twunt, you didn't have to go.
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I hope @sam sticks around, even if just as one of us regular chuckleheads.
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Or no address. I can send snail mail to
Name
Postal Code - Village
Franceand expect it to arrive. There are no street names, nor house numbers in the smaller villages. Outside the village center they tend to give the houses a name (Lieu-Dit) to make it easier but that's it.
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My ninja is getting old for you, young one!
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100 open bug reports closed as "won't fix; sent stickers"
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European addresses can have so many lines. So. Many. Lines. Trust me on this. At least in the USA we have the courtesy to not have 5 line addresses.
Three lines would have been enough for home, but I needed the full 5 lines for work. OK, I could have dropped one of those lines, but I prefer to not have deliveries to me take a bonus few weeks while they bounce around our internal mail system.
UK addresses have a reputation for being The Worst of the Worst. Using a text box without line count restriction is usually best (unless you get fancy and use a postcode lookup system).
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Using a text box without line count restriction is usually best (unless you get fancy and use a postcode lookup system).
I have to deal with phonebooks, so I can't really do that. I mean, ok, I kinda can, but filtering by street or such would be even more of a PITA.
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Using a text box without line count restriction is usually best (unless you get fancy and use a postcode lookup system).
Google/Gmail is doing it like that so It Can't Be Wrong!
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UK addresses have a reputation for being The Worst of the Worst
Really? In theory, a building name/number and postcode is supposed to be sufficient to uniquely identify a postal address. Add in a name and any internal subdivision about which Royal mail shouldn't have to know about. The rest is (sorta) redundant.
Granted, expecting to the postie to know what to do with something simply addressed as "Riverside Bldg, SE1 7PB", "Amesbury, SP4 7DE" or "Reception BN2 1TW" may bet a bit much OTOH...
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In theory, a building name/number and postcode is supposed to be sufficient to uniquely identify a postal address.
A lot of the time, a name and a full postcode will be enough (unless you happen to live next to someone with the same name). But it's not a resilient method; a one-bit error in the postcode (or bad handwriting) will cause delivery failure.
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Well implied FEC was why part of why I put 'sorta' there...