Goddamit, Gmail
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@Lorne-Kates said in Goddamit, Gmail:
- As stated, it's still only using 70% of the screen. I can't see my inbox. I can't interact with my mail box. What the fuck is the point of presenting that useless 30%? FULL FUCKING SCREEN
You'll be happy to note that you can open the composer in a popup window. Make that as big as you want.
@Lorne-Kates said in Goddamit, Gmail:
- For that matter, when in the fuck did ANYONE but formatting buttons on the BOTTOM of an screen? Every WYSIWYG I've ever used as them on top. Every desktop program I've ever used has them on top. Even Microsoft's goddamn ribbon is on the top. Holy shit!
Same reason game developers put their action bars at the bottom, I suppose. Remember: Everything is a game now. Gamification is the way of the future!
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@Sutherlands said in Goddamit, Gmail:
@joe.edwards said:
@Lorne Kates said:
Ah, I see. So you're one of the people that just wants the D?Thank fuck auto manufactures aren't (always) designing UX like that. I mean, "99.9%" of people don't use D3, D2 and D1-- so let's engineer it away because it might confuse someone when they're trying to find "D".
I've never driven a car with D3 D2 D1. My car just has D. I had to look it up.
Why is this a bad thing?
Yo....
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@Tsaukpaetra Is a good thing you are lecturing Mr. Kates on how he is wrong in his gripes from 8 years ago. I am sure that Google, as the paragons of stability in all things as they are, has never updated their UX once since then.
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@error said in Goddamit, Gmail:
@blakeyrat said:
But you're still a freak if you're a man in the United States that doesn't know those particular implementation details. You freak.
If you want to get into it I'm a man who can't name a single pony from MLP:FIM. Freak.I can help with that!
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@blakeyrat said in Goddamit, Gmail:
@Sir Twist said:
I’ve been using Forté Agent since 1999, and it has had email threading since they added email to the news functions. Gmail “perfecting” threading would be like me “perfecting” the wheel.
Office 97 had "View By Conversation", and it was just as perfected then as Gmail's is now. Gmail's is kind of annoying because it kind of just arbitrarily cuts off a conversation at 50 emails and starts a new one.
AND IT STILL DOES TO THIS DAY, and you can't configure it whatsoever!
It's even worse in Groups, where you literally can't even turn it off!
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@dhromed said in Goddamit, Gmail:
It's like we're in the Impressionist age of UI design. Anything goes!
You have no idea...
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@Ragnax said in Goddamit, Gmail:
@boomzilla said:
@Ragnax said:
A manual gearbox typically has less wear than an automatic, is far cheaper to replace when it does eventually gets worn too far (both due to less complex components involved in the gearbox) and when driving manually the driver will typically be able to better anticipate road and traffic conditions and shift gears to keep the engine RPM and output revolutions closer to optimal for both engine lifetime and fuel consumption.
I'm sure this was important in the dawn of the automatic transmission. Since you entered your time pod, however, transmissions have become much more durable, and regular drivers don't consider this factor because the odds are very low that it will matter.
It has become less relevant, that much is true, but it is still relevant: I've seen as high as a 10% difference in fuel economy when driven under real world conditions being cited. (Ofcourse curse my luck that I didn't bookmark the references to back that up.) One thing to note though; don't trust numbers published by organizations like the EPA. They apply by-the-book formulas to the cars' spec sheets and generally don't take the cars themselves out on the road for real testing.
The gap has closed even further. Whether that's a good thing or not, you decide.
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@TheLazyHase said in Goddamit, Gmail:
Would you accept if windows suddenly switched to CLI interface because it's new ? Cause that's about what's happening.
You're not going to like the future...
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@dhromed said in Goddamit, Gmail:
@mott555 said:
On Gmail it seems they hide every single thing I actually need and I end up searching and digging.
I hardly ever use gmail and every time I have to reply (twice a year, maybe), I can't find the reply button because it's not on the toolbar. It's the light-grey-on-white button in the top-right corner of the email's body. The reply-like button that is on the toolbar takes you back to the inbox. So does clicking on "inbox". Which is nearly next to it.
So I clicked the Reply button, and it said BEEEPP WRONG DUMBASS LOL and with a massive black overlay pointed out with confusing widgets that I was supposed to click a textbox that seemed to be purposely hidden from me, being white and a light grey border.
Google doesn't know what UX or usability is. That entire body of knowledge and insights is hidden from them. My cat has a greater chance of discovering the minds and intentions of other human beings than the people working on Gmail.
I have good news!
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@Lorne-Kates said in Goddamit, Gmail:
Some asshole doesn't know how to type in their own goddamn email address, so I get their email about once a week. It's usually innane bullshit.
Hey, we now have a topic for that! Wonder if they still do it...
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@error said in Goddamit, Gmail:
There's an IM screenname I've had for around 15 years now (wow I feel old), that consists of two fairly common words. A few years ago a band started up with the same name and I started getting random messages from their fans.
I will never be "blessed" with this problem.
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@anonymous235 said in Goddamit, Gmail:
My guess is that she has the typo stored as a contact in whichever email client she uses, and just selects that other person from the list without thinking about it (or she doesn't know how to modify or delete contacts).
Thankfully these problems will be solved in the future when google introduces their Google+ID™ project, forcing every person in the world to have a Google profile with their real name and proper biometric identification, linked to their physical Google ID Card™. Google then declares all other forms of personal identification (online or offline) obsolete, including email addresses.
We now have a "Killed by Google" thread for just this very thing!
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@lucas-mccahill You, glorious motherfucka you. Also, what are you even talking about? Trash is still trash, the Sent is still Sent. You may need to click the "More v" link if you have tons of labels like I do, but you can then tell Gmail "Hey, this trash bin is important to me, always show it!"
@lucas-mccahill said in Goddamit, Gmail:
you cant go on dating sites anymore because its all those stupid tiny icon symbols and it sends people weird messages I know I didnt write
Wat. What does that have anything to do with Gmail?
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@Atazhaia said in Goddamit, Gmail:
@Tsaukpaetra Is a good thing you are lecturing Mr. Kates on how he is wrong in his gripes from 8 years ago. I am sure that Google, as the paragons of stability in all things as they are, has never updated their UX once since then.
Funny. Blakeyrat said it was a good thing they were changing and trying new things. Yet, here in the distant future, it's.... basically not.
Also, blame the necrotizer and me not realizing it until I was well into my reply.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Goddamit, Gmail:
It's been this way for... quite some time now.
Do you mean that in reference to 2021, when you wrote this, or 2013, when Lorne made his complaint? :)
<edit> this is me not noticing a whole extra page of activity on this thread... Muphry's law
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@Tsaukpaetra well I mean I know I set the toaster to medium and it comes out light like a day later.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Goddamit, Gmail:
Also, blame the necrotizer and me not realizing it until I was well into my reply.
Didn't the OP being Lorne Kates tip you off?
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@Gąska said in Goddamit, Gmail:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Goddamit, Gmail:
Also, blame the necrotizer and me not realizing it until I was well into my reply.
Didn't the OP being Lorne Kates tip you off?
Forgive my youthful optimism!
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@Tsaukpaetra youthful? Well, we're talking about 8 years ago, so I guess...