How old is your machine?



  • @Ronald said:

    At least nobody is talking about O-gauge Vs HO-gauge. Yet.



    Disclaimer: I'm an HO-gauge zealot.
    Mostly G. I still have a little HO from when I was in high school mumbledy-mumble decades ago. My ex-wife took all the O scale stuff, which I was never really all that interested in, so screw that.



  • @flabdablet said:

    @Ronald said:
    As for everything else: it's not because YOU don't understand that it's stupid.

    Quite so. Correlation does not imply causation.



  • @HardwareGeek said:

    @Ronald said:
    At least nobody is talking about O-gauge Vs HO-gauge. Yet.



    Disclaimer: I'm an HO-gauge zealot.
    Mostly G. I still have a little HO from when I was in high school mumbledy-mumble decades ago. My ex-wife took all the O scale stuff, which I was never really all that interested in, so screw that.

    Well if you made your way from O-gauge to G-gauge, I guess the next step is life-size trains (or as we call them in the train enthusiasts lingo, 1:1 scalers).



  • @Ronald said:

    @HardwareGeek said:
    @Ronald said:
    At least nobody is talking about O-gauge Vs HO-gauge. Yet.



    Disclaimer: I'm an HO-gauge zealot.
    Mostly G. I still have a little HO from when I was in high school mumbledy-mumble decades ago. My ex-wife took all the O scale stuff, which I was never really all that interested in, so screw that.

    Well if you made your way from O-gauge to G-gauge, I guess the next step is life-size trains (or as we call them in the train enthusiasts lingo, 1:1 scalers).

    What's the next size up from that?



  • @Ronald said:

    @flabdablet said:
    @Ronald said:
    As for everything else: it's not because YOU don't understand that it's stupid.

    Quite so. Correlation does not imply causation.



  • @Ben L. said:

    @Ronald said:
    @HardwareGeek said:
    @Ronald said:
    At least nobody is talking about O-gauge Vs HO-gauge. Yet.



    Disclaimer: I'm an HO-gauge zealot.
    Mostly G. I still have a little HO from when I was in high school mumbledy-mumble decades ago. My ex-wife took all the O scale stuff, which I was never really all that interested in, so screw that.

    Well if you made your way from O-gauge to G-gauge, I guess the next step is life-size trains (or as we call them in the train enthusiasts lingo, 1:1 scalers).

    What's the next size up from that?

    It's called the IKB-gauge [1]. It is roughly a 1.5:1 scale.



    [1] named after Isambard Kingdom Brunel



  • @Ronald said:

    @Ben L. said:
    @Ronald said:
    @HardwareGeek said:
    @Ronald said:
    At least nobody is talking about O-gauge Vs HO-gauge. Yet.



    Disclaimer: I'm an HO-gauge zealot.
    Mostly G. I still have a little HO from when I was in high school mumbledy-mumble decades ago. My ex-wife took all the O scale stuff, which I was never really all that interested in, so screw that.

    Well if you made your way from O-gauge to G-gauge, I guess the next step is life-size trains (or as we call them in the train enthusiasts lingo, 1:1 scalers).

    What's the next size up from that?

    It's called the IKB-gauge [1]. It is roughly a 1.5:1 scale.



    [1] named after Isambard Kingdom Brunel

    Just so we don't end up talking about gauges for hours, here is the relevant information. Circled in red are the only ones that matter.






  • @Ronald said:

    @HardwareGeek said:
    @Ronald said:
    At least nobody is talking about O-gauge Vs HO-gauge. Yet.



    Disclaimer: I'm an HO-gauge zealot.
    Mostly G. I still have a little HO from when I was in high school mumbledy-mumble decades ago. My ex-wife took all the O scale stuff, which I was never really all that interested in, so screw that.

    Well if you made your way from O-gauge to G-gauge, I guess the next step is life-size trains (or as we call them in the train enthusiasts lingo, 1:1 scalers).


    Nah, there are the ride-on trains of various sizes, so I wouldn't have to go all the way to full size in one leap. Besides, my change in scales has not been monotonic – I started with HO, and also had some N in high school, I pretty much completely forgot about trains altogether throughout college until my late 30's, when my then-wife got interested in G, and then a few years ago she got interested in O – so I don't even have to go bigger; I could go smaller. N would probably be my first choice for building a lot in a limited space (if I could really afford to restart the hobby), but my eyesight isn't what it used to be, so I'd probably pick up HO again.



  • NEEERRRDDSSS

    NEEERRRDDSSS



  • @Ronald said:

    Just so we don't end up talking about gauges for hours,

    Well, it's better than talking about Go.
    @Ronald said:
    here is the relevant information. Circled in red are the only ones that matter.
    Disagree. Three-foot gauge is (or was) very important in the U.S.; many (most?) railroads that were built in mountainous areas were originally built in 3' gauge. There were also extensive 3' gauge operations in non-mountainous areas; at one time one could travel from Ohio to Texas entirely on 3' gauge. Many of the tourist (heritage) railroads in the U.S. are 3' gauge.

    Meter (or metre, if you prefer) gauge is at least somewhat common in Europe; G is nominally 1:22.5 scale, originally to model meter gauge trains on 45mm track, so however common or uncommon it may be in real life, it is certainly important in modelling.

    On the other hand, as important as the Brunel gauge may have been in the history of English railroads, the GWR ceased broad gauge operations in 1892.



  • @Ronald said:

    Also please note that there are trains with rubber tires.

    Montreal, again..

    @Ronald said:

    This is typical with (underground) subway trains because those wheels are less noisy.

    I have never seen a subway with rubber wheels. Stop being asinine.



  • @Ben L. said:

    NEEERRRDDSSS

    So? This is a forum for programmers. How many people on here AREN'T nerds? Except for pink-striped-shirt-guy, and he doesn't count.


  • ♿ (Parody)

    @blakeyrat said:

    Is this the most boring thread? Yes. Yes it is.

    I disagree. Ronald is doing some high quality trolling here. He even got morbs to post something with no profanity. I wasn't aware that was even possible.



  • @HardwareGeek said:

    Train cars are effing heavy, say 100000 lbs. typical. (Locomotives are even more.) In U.S.-design trains, this weight is typically divided among 8 wheels, so 12500 lbs. per wheel. Under that kind of load, a rubber tire would wear out much more quickly than a steel wheel.
     

    You're off by quite a bit there. Most intermodal cars hit between 20,000 and 25,000lbs per wheel. Max would be a three well, 660,000lb monster at 27,500 a wheel. Bulk hoppers are allowed to hit 36,000, and I think there's some specialty stock with a limit of 39,000lbs, though I never saw any when I worked for the railroad. 



  • @HardwareGeek said:

    @Ben L. said:

    NEEERRRDDSSS

    So? This is a forum for programmers. How many people on here AREN'T nerds? Except for pink-striped-shirt-guy, and he doesn't count.


    Naw, pretty sure I'm a nerd too.

     



  • @drurowin said:

    @Ronald said:

     If you put in regular tires a mix of air and nitrogen they will keep their shape longer when temperature goes up and down; this effect is compounded in thin tires because of the smaller buffer size.

    I run 78% nitrogen in my tires, what proportion do you run?

     

    Not directed towards me I know, but I run 100% helium to make 'em lighter and to produce a high pitched, if slightly comical whine if I ever get a puncture.



  • My dad is really into his trains, and builds working model steam engines etc...



    He is a member of a club, which sends him some publication regularly, the "Guage 0 Guild".



    The rest of my family call it the Gay Joe Guild.



    Unlucky dad.... unlucky.



  • @Ronald said:

    @HardwareGeek said:
    @Ronald said:
    At least nobody is talking about O-gauge Vs HO-gauge. Yet.

    Disclaimer: I'm an HO-gauge zealot.
    Mostly G. I still have a little HO from when I was in high school mumbledy-mumble decades ago. My ex-wife took all the O scale stuff, which I was never really all that interested in, so screw that.

    Well if you made your way from O-gauge to G-gauge, I guess the next step is life-size trains (or as we call them in the train enthusiasts lingo, 1:1 scalers).

    Do you have a fullsize EMD F40PH sitting in your backyard?



  • @drurowin said:

    @Ronald said:

    @HardwareGeek said:
    @Ronald said:
    At least nobody is talking about O-gauge Vs HO-gauge. Yet.



    Disclaimer: I'm an HO-gauge zealot.
    Mostly G. I still have a little HO from when I was in high school mumbledy-mumble decades ago. My ex-wife took all the O scale stuff, which I was never really all that interested in, so screw that.

    Well if you made your way from O-gauge to G-gauge, I guess the next step is life-size trains (or as we call them in the train enthusiasts lingo, 1:1 scalers).

    Do you have a fullsize EMD F40PH sitting in your backyard?

    Ahhh. once again people confusing Scale (ratio to actual size) with Gauge (a measure of the tracks themselves)...

    Over the decades, I have modeled in most scales, but largely settled on "N" in order to have a decent operational setup with a reasonable space requirement...



  • @TheCPUWizard said:

    @drurowin said:

    @Ronald said:

    @HardwareGeek said:
    @Ronald said:
    At least nobody is talking about O-gauge Vs HO-gauge. Yet.

    Disclaimer: I'm an HO-gauge zealot.
    Mostly G. I still have a little HO from when I was in high school mumbledy-mumble decades ago. My ex-wife took all the O scale stuff, which I was never really all that interested in, so screw that.

    Well if you made your way from O-gauge to G-gauge, I guess the next step is life-size trains (or as we call them in the train enthusiasts lingo, 1:1 scalers).

    Do you have a fullsize EMD F40PH sitting in your backyard?

    Ahhh. once again people confusing Scale (ratio to actual size) with Gauge (a measure of the tracks themselves)...

    Over the decades, I have modeled in most scales, but largely settled on "N" in order to have a decent operational setup with a reasonable space requirement...

    He specifically said "life-size trains" and "1:1 scale".

     



  • @TheCPUWizard said:

    Ahhh. once again people confusing Scale (ratio to actual size) with Gauge (a measure of the tracks themselves)...
    I see nothing there indicationg any "confusion".  And, Scale and Gauge are related.  The bigger the gauge of track, the bigger the train cars are (model trains, not the real ones).  Sure, you could make really big cars with tiny wheels that are close together so they fit on N Gauge track, but that discussion would belong in the Spectate Swamp thread.



  • Now let's all talk about Loading Gauge!!!! MAN THOSE RUSSIANS LIKE THEIR BIG ENGINES



  • @El_Heffe said:

    @TheCPUWizard said:

    Ahhh. once again people confusing Scale (ratio to actual size) with Gauge (a measure of the tracks themselves)...
    I see nothing there indicationg any "confusion".  And, Scale and Gauge are related.  The bigger the gauge of track, the bigger the train cars are (model trains, not the real ones).  Sure, you could make really big cars with tiny wheels that are close together so they fit on N Gauge track, but that discussion would belong in the Spectate Swamp thread.

    I'd like to park a train on an N-Gage.

     



  • @El_Heffe said:

    @TheCPUWizard said:
    Ahhh. once again people confusing Scale (ratio to actual size) with Gauge (a measure of the tracks themselves)...
    I see nothing there indicationg any "confusion".  And, Scale and Gauge are related.  The bigger the gauge of track, the bigger the train cars are (model trains, not the real ones).  Sure, you could make really big cars with tiny wheels that are close together so they fit on N Gauge track, but that discussion would belong in the Spectate Swamp thread.

    I happen to be a fan of Narrow Gauge [3'6" or even less] vs. 4' 8.5", and have modeled significant layouts in both HO [3.5 mm ==1'] scale and N [1:160, although internationally it may be as big as 1:148] scale (ironically "HO" means "Half-O", even though no two scales have a standard 2:1 ratio). In some cases the car bodies are identical to those used on standard gauge, with only the under carriage replaced. However, it is more common for the car bodies to be narrower as well, though they are often the same length.

     Many of my favorite lines are found at http://narrowgauge.org/ and I frequently (every 2-3 years) make it out to Colorado specifically to ride them. If you are in the UK, I highly recommend http://www.festrail.co.uk/main.shtml



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Now let's all talk about Loading Gauge!!!! MAN THOSE RUSSIANS LIKE THEIR BIG ENGINES

    Oh man, a friend and I were waiting for the 7th Ave subway and it was taking forever and he as like "Why don't they just run some of the 8th Ave trains through here, because it's always got too many trains." I mean, DUH, you can't use IND rolling stock in IRT tunnels! They're too wide, they'd hit the platform! (You can't do vice-versa, either, because the IRT rolling stock is too narrow. Although all maintenance equipment is built to IRT specs and the workers are just careful to "mind the gap", heh..)



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @blakeyrat said:
    Now let's all talk about Loading Gauge!!!! MAN THOSE RUSSIANS LIKE THEIR BIG ENGINES

    Oh man, a friend and I were waiting for the 7th Ave subway and it was taking forever and he as like "Why don't they just run some of the 8th Ave trains through here, because it's always got too many trains." I mean, DUH, you can't use IND rolling stock in IRT tunnels! They're too wide, they'd hit the platform! (You can't do vice-versa, either, because the IRT rolling stock is too narrow. Although all maintenance equipment is built to IRT specs and the workers are just careful to "mind the gap", heh..)

    Now I want to go to Subway and get a BMT.



  • @drurowin said:

    Now I want to go to Subway and get a BMT.

    What kind of yokel cares about the BMT? shakes head



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @drurowin said:
    Now I want to go to Subway and get a BMT.

    What kind of yokel cares about the BMT? shakes head

    I meant the Bacon, Mustard, and Tomato sandwich, not the Brooklyn-Manhattan Transit.



  • @drurowin said:

    @morbiuswilters said:

    @drurowin said:
    Now I want to go to Subway and get a BMT.

    What kind of yokel cares about the BMT? shakes head

    I meant the Bacon, Mustard, and Tomato sandwich, not the Brooklyn-Manhattan Transit.

    You really shouldn't eat bacon (or any meat, for that matter.) Slaughter causes the release of cortisol into the tissues, which you then eat. The cortisol from eating meat causes heart disease and cancer.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @drurowin said:

    @morbiuswilters said:

    @drurowin said:
    Now I want to go to Subway and get a BMT.

    What kind of yokel cares about the BMT? shakes head

    I meant the Bacon, Mustard, and Tomato sandwich, not the Brooklyn-Manhattan Transit.

    You really shouldn't eat bacon (or any meat, for that matter.) Slaughter causes the release of cortisol into the tissues, which you then eat. The cortisol from eating meat causes heart disease and cancer.

    Cortisol is tasty.  It tastes like fear.

     



  • @drurowin said:

    Cortisol is tasty.  It tastes like fear.

    Yes it does. I don't know how you can be so callous about it.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @drurowin said:
    Bacon
    bacon



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    Slaughter causes the release of cortisol into the tissues, which you then eat. The cortisol from eating meat causes heart disease and cancer.
     

    You mean vaccins cause autism.



  • @Ben L. said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    @drurowin said:
    Bacon
    bacon

    I hate bacon.



  • @dhromed said:

    @Ben L. said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    @drurowin said:
    Bacon
    bacon

    I hate bacon.

    And bacon hates you.



  • @dhromed said:

    @Ben L. said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    @drurowin said:
    Bacon
    bacon

    I hate bacon.

    I am eating hot-dogs made from bacon at this very minute for my dinnar.

     


  • Trolleybus Mechanic

    @drurowin said:

    I am eating hot-dogs made from bacon at this very minute for my dinnar.
     

    What about now?



  • @drurowin said:

    I am eating hot-dogs made from bacon at this very minute for my dinnar.

    Made entirely of bacon? Or just with bacon mixed-in?



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @drurowin said:
    I am eating hot-dogs made from bacon at this very minute for my dinnar.

    Made entirely of bacon? Or just with bacon mixed-in?

    "Tesco Bacon-Dogs - Taste like BACON because they're MADE FROM 100% BACON"



  • @drurowin said:

    @morbiuswilters said:

    @drurowin said:
    I am eating hot-dogs made from bacon at this very minute for my dinnar.

    Made entirely of bacon? Or just with bacon mixed-in?

    "Tesco Bacon-Dogs - Taste like BACON because they're MADE FROM 100% BACON"

    Ugh, wtf..


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @morbiuswilters said:

    Ugh, wtf..
    Yeah. Tesco…



  • @Alex Papadimoulis said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    @Lorne Kates said:
    @drurowin said:
    @morbiuswilters said:
    @drurowin said:
    I am eating hot-bacon made from dogs at this very minute for my pesos.

    Made entirely of dogs? Or just with dogs mixed-in?

    "Tesco Dog-Bacons - Taste like DOGS because they're MADE FROM 100% DOGS"

    TDEMSYR

    TDEMSYR

    TDEMSYR

    TDEMSYR


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @drurowin said:

    @morbiuswilters said:

    @drurowin said:
    I am eating hot-dogs made from bacon at this very minute for my dinnar.

    Made entirely of bacon? Or just with bacon mixed-in?

    "Tesco Bacon-Dogs - Taste like BACON because they're MADE FROM 100% BACON horse"

    FTFY, HTH, HAND, etc.



  • @PJH said:

    @drurowin said:

    @morbiuswilters said:

    @drurowin said:
    I am eating hot-dogs made from bacon at this very minute for my dinnar.

    Made entirely of bacon? Or just with bacon mixed-in?

    "Tesco Bacon-Dogs - Taste like BACON because they're MADE FROM 100% BACON horse"

    FTFY, HTH, HAND, etc.
    Either way, they went great with the Tesco Value gin.  The new seasonal blends are in, this one is called "91 octane".

     



  • @Ben Affleck said:

    @Alex Trebek said:
    @Monty Python said:
    @Lorne Greene said:
    @Ian Drury said:
    @Mac Hine said:
    @I'm Sorry Dave I Can't Do That said:
    I am eating hot-bacon made from dogs at this very minute for my pesos.

    Made entirely of dogs? Or just with dogs mixed-in?

    "Tesco Dog-Bacons - Taste like DOGS because they're MADE FROM 100% DOGS"

    TDEMSYR

    TDEMSYR

    TDEMSYR

    TDEMSYR

    WTF???


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