Line numbers... in 2002
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@morbiuswilters said:
@drurowin said:
May I see your source of these statistics? We're far safer than you in our own homes, and the world will be safer once you end your militaristic ways. You're like North Korea, except MUCH more frightening - you've proved your nuclear bombs work.Those were both by terrorists.
Ah, I see, it's not really murder, then.
@drurowin said:
We have the same problems you guys do...
I don't remember us having a problem with soldiers getting hacked apart in the streets by Muslims. Maybe that's because we're not a bunch of pathetic, cowering pussies who aren't even permitted by their own government to defend themselves..
@drurowin said:
...except minus the school shootings, random gang killings, and women missing for 10 years that not one fuck was given about.
You have all those things, plus higher rates of burglary, rape and violent crime!
Seriously, though, I don't give a shit. If you want to disarms yourselves and die pissing yourself like a little girl, then that's fine by me; every anti-gun dipshit that dies makes me happy.
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@drurowin said:
May I see your source of these statistics?
I'm not your Google Monkey. Still, it's deeply satisfying knowing I'm surrounded by guns and you're about 100 times as likely to be murdered.
@drurowin said:
We're far safer than you in our own homes..
If by "far safer" you mean "far more likely to have someone break in, rape and beat us", then yes. Yes you are.
@drurowin said:
...and the world will be safer once you end your militaristic ways.
Wahh! Wahh!
@drurowin said:
You're like North Korea, except MUCH more frightening - you've proved your nuclear bombs work.
Honestly, it's been too long since we've nuked somebody. Where is it you say you live, again?
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@morbiuswilters said:
@drurowin said:
I'm in Milton Keynes. It's a shithole, but I've never been raped or murdered. I did get mugged at gunpoint on Atlanta's metro in March when I was visiting the states, though.May I see your source of these statistics?
I'm not your Google Monkey. Still, it's deeply satisfying knowing I'm surrounded by guns and you're about 100 times as likely to be murdered.
@drurowin said:
We're far safer than you in our own homes..
If by "far safer" you mean "far more likely to have someone break in, rape and beat us", then yes. Yes you are.
@drurowin said:
...and the world will be safer once you end your militaristic ways.
Wahh! Wahh!
@drurowin said:
You're like North Korea, except MUCH more frightening - you've proved your nuclear bombs work.
Honestly, it's been too long since we've nuked somebody. Where is it you say you live, again?
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@drurowin said:
It's a shithole, but I've never been raped or murdered.
Well, we can always dream.
@drurowin said:
I did get mugged at gunpoint on Atlanta's metro in March when I was visiting the states, though.
Ha ha ha! Dude, that's awesome.
But why the fuck would you go to Atlanta? That's just begging to get mugged. That's like going to.. I dunno, Milton Keynes, and complaining about the rape and the poor, ugly people who live there.
Actually, I'm not even sure I believe you. I mean, Atlanta is a shithole and I would totally expect a faggy Brit to get mugged there--shit, I probably wouldn't have been able to resist mugging you myself--but I've never heard of anyone being mugged, let alone at gunpoint. And you just happen to get mugged? That seems too convenient, unless you were really asking for it.
Also, what the hell were you doing on the bus? (I'm assuming it's a bus, because I don't think Atlanta has any trains..) Buses are for the homeless to use as a toilet and for idiot tourists to get mugged on.
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@morbiuswilters said:
@drurowin said:
It's a shithole, but I've never been raped or murdered.
Well, we can always dream.
@drurowin said:
I did get mugged at gunpoint on Atlanta's metro in March when I was visiting the states, though.
Ha ha ha! Dude, that's awesome.
But why the fuck would you go to Atlanta? That's just begging to get mugged. That's like going to.. I dunno, Milton Keynes, and complaining about the rape and the poor, ugly people who live there.
Actually, I'm not even sure I believe you. I mean, Atlanta is a shithole and I would totally expect a faggy Brit to get mugged there--shit, I probably wouldn't have been able to resist mugging you myself--but I've never heard of anyone being mugged, let alone at gunpoint. And you just happen to get mugged? That seems too convenient, unless you were really asking for it.
Also, what the hell were you doing on the bus? (I'm assuming it's a bus, because I don't think Atlanta has any trains..) Buses are for the homeless to use as a toilet and for idiot tourists to get mugged on.
Maybe he was literally asking for it.
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@morbiuswilters said:
@drurowin said:
It's a shithole, but I've never been raped or murdered.
Well, we can always dream.
@drurowin said:
I did get mugged at gunpoint on Atlanta's metro in March when I was visiting the states, though.
Ha ha ha! Dude, that's awesome.
But why the fuck would you go to Atlanta? That's just begging to get mugged. That's like going to.. I dunno, Milton Keynes, and complaining about the rape and the poor, ugly people who live there.
Actually, I'm not even sure I believe you. I mean, Atlanta is a shithole and I would totally expect a faggy Brit to get mugged there--shit, I probably wouldn't have been able to resist mugging you myself--but I've never heard of anyone being mugged, let alone at gunpoint. And you just happen to get mugged? That seems too convenient, unless you were really asking for it.
Also, what the hell were you doing on the bus? (I'm assuming it's a bus, because I don't think Atlanta has any trains..) Buses are for the homeless to use as a toilet and for idiot tourists to get mugged on.
[url="http://itsmarta.com"]It's MARTA.[/url] They run trains and buses. I was on the train coming from the airport, and a black man pulled a gun on me and demanded my wallet.
And I may or may not have been going to Furry Weekend Atlanta.
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@drurowin said:
It's MARTA.
Holy crap, their domain is "itsmarta.com"??
@drurowin said:
They run trains and buses.
Ok, so I amend my comment: outside of a very few cities, the trains are basically just big buses, except the driver can't even see you so they're even more lawless.
@drurowin said:
...and a black man pulled a gun on me and demanded my wallet.
And I may or may not have been going to Furry Weekend Atlanta.
Were you wearing your furry costume at the time? Because that might have just been a police officer.
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@morbiuswilters said:
@drurowin said:
It's MARTA.
Holy crap, their domain is "itsmarta.com"??
@drurowin said:
They run trains and buses.
Ok, so I amend my comment: outside of a very few cities, the trains are basically just big buses, except the driver can't even see you so they're even more lawless.
@drurowin said:
...and a black man pulled a gun on me and demanded my wallet.
And I may or may not have been going to Furry Weekend Atlanta.
Were you wearing your furry costume at the time? Because that might have just been a police officer.
No, I don't have a costume. I did smell like I'd just gotten off an international flight and hadn't showered in a few days before that too, though. But no, unless Atlanta cops wear baggy pants, a T-shirt with Daffy Duck smoking a joint on it, and have gold teeth, then I'm pretty sure it wasn't a cop.
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@drurowin said:
...and hadn't showered in a few days before that too, though.
Wait, I thought you were British, not French..
@drurowin said:
But no, unless Atlanta cops wear baggy pants, a T-shirt with Daffy Duck smoking a joint on it, and have gold teeth, then I'm pretty sure it wasn't a cop.
For all I know, they do.
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@drurowin said:
Those were both by terrorists.
What the fuck has that got to do with anything? And before you answer, I'll pre-emptively mention Mark Bridger.
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If it had been a simple killing by gang members they would have cut him up and disappeared.
Because they were terrorists they stayed and chatted with people passing by for 15 minutes while they waited for the police to come and join them for a shoot out.
They would have had a serious problem in Atlanta where the gang bangers would have shot them right away, eliminating the competition :P
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@Fritzr said:
If it had been a simple killing by gang members they would have cut him up and disappeared.
Because they were terrorists they stayed and chatted with people passing by for 15 minutes while they waited for the police to come and join them for a shoot out.
They would have had a serious problem in Atlanta where the gang bangers would have shot them right away, eliminating the competition :P
Hell, assuming the soldier himself wasn't carrying, somebody surely would be. Those assholes would've lasted all of about 30 seconds before someone ventilated them, thank God.
The really retarded thing is that the police showed up pretty soon thereafter, but since they were the unarmed police, they could do nothing but mill around at the edges until the real police showed up. So not only has Britain criminalized defending oneself, they've also made it impossible for the police to do any damn thing about it, either.
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@morbiuswilters said:
@Fritzr said:
The only police that should be armed are the MPs, and they would be the correct ones to respond to terrorism, as well. Your logic is flawed.If it had been a simple killing by gang members they would have cut him up and disappeared.
Because they were terrorists they stayed and chatted with people passing by for 15 minutes while they waited for the police to come and join them for a shoot out.
They would have had a serious problem in Atlanta where the gang bangers would have shot them right away, eliminating the competition :P
Hell, assuming the soldier himself wasn't carrying, somebody surely would be. Those assholes would've lasted all of about 30 seconds before someone ventilated them, thank God.
The really retarded thing is that the police showed up pretty soon thereafter, but since they were the unarmed police, they could do nothing but mill around at the edges until the real police showed up. So not only has Britain criminalized defending oneself, they've also made it impossible for the police to do any damn thing about it, either.
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@drurowin said:
The only police that should be armed are the MPs, and they would be the correct ones to respond to terrorism, as well. Your logic is flawed.
Holy shit. While I'm still not sold on the every-civilian-should-be-packing-heat idea, the idea that the police would show up unarmed is terrifying. Please wait for the military? We'll all be dead when they show up.
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@drurowin said:
The only police that should be armed are the MPs, and they would be the correct ones to respond to terrorism, as well.
QFWTF
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@joe.edwards said:
@drurowin said:
Your Boston Marathon bombing. Did you see the reaction of the first-line police responders to a bomb going off?The only police that should be armed are the MPs, and they would be the correct ones to respond to terrorism, as well. Your logic is flawed.
Holy shit. While I'm still not sold on the every-civilian-should-be-packing-heat idea, the idea that the police would show up unarmed is terrifying. Please wait for the military? We'll all be dead when they show up.[img]http://abcnews.go.com/images/News/gty_marathon_explosion_police_tk_130415_wblog.jpg[/img]
What was Michael Jackson there on the left going to do, shoot the bomb? Put someone out of their misery?
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@joe.edwards said:
@drurowin said:
Not when their first instinct is to go waving them around like an orang-utan that's just discovered its penis.Guns can't handle every situation, therefore police don't need guns.
FTFY
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@drurowin said:
@joe.edwards said:
@drurowin said:
Not when their first instinct is to go waving them around like an orang-utan that's just discovered its penis.Guns can't handle every situation, therefore police don't need guns.
FTFYWithout a gun, a policeman has about as much authority as a highschool hallway monitor. When they respond to an incident, people's lives are at stake. If they're just as vulnerable as you are, they're not going to be able to help you; furthermore, they can't even intimidate or deter a thug from committing a violent crime.
The best case: "Hold it right there, criminal scum!" "Yeah, sure, make me." The worst case: "Drop your weapon!" *blammo*
That I even have to explain this. Just. Wow. WTF.
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@joe.edwards said:
@drurowin said:
Repeat ultamatim in an even firmer tone of voice. Add the words "or else."@joe.edwards said:
@drurowin said:
Not when their first instinct is to go waving them around like an orang-utan that's just discovered its penis.Guns can't handle every situation, therefore police don't need guns.
FTFYWithout a gun, a policeman has about as much authority as a highschool hallway monitor. When they respond to an incident, people's lives are at stake. If they're just as vulnerable as you are, they're not going to be able to help you; furthermore, they can't even intimidate or deter a thug from committing a violent crime.
The best case: "Hold it right there, criminal scum!" "Yeah, sure, make me." The worst case: "Drop your weapon!" *blammo*
That I even have to explain this. Just. Wow. WTF.
Seriously, though, we get on fine here with unarmed police. We're not conditioned to violence like the septics.
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@drurowin said:
The only police that should be armed are the MPs, and they would be the correct ones to respond to terrorism, as well. Your logic is flawed.
You are a fucking retarded piece of shit.
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@morbiuswilters said:
@drurowin said:
Calm down, Tex. Just cause you can't take your shootin iron in the saloon with ye doesn't mean ye can't still have a good time.The only police that should be armed are the MPs, and they would be the correct ones to respond to terrorism, as well. Your logic is flawed.
You are a fucking retarded piece of shit.
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@drurowin said:
What was Michael Jackson there on the left going to do, shoot the bomb? Put someone out of their misery?
Well, at that point, all they knew it some shit was going down. The correct response was to draw his weapon. But being a pussy Brit who lives in a country where people get hacked apart in broad daylight, I wouldn't expect you to have any clue about self-defense.
"Please, sir, don't hack me apart! The bobbies will be here any minute! And then they'll call the actual military, because not only are our citizens a bunch of worthless pussies, but so are our police!"
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@drurowin said:
Seriously, though, we get on fine here with unarmed police.
Really? Because you have higher rates of nearly every kind of crime. (And that's including our shithole cities, which are basically unarmed pussyvilles, just like you'd be comfortable with. If you actually look at the areas where law-abiding citizens are allowed to have guns, it's a lot safer than where you live.)
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@drurowin said:
Calm down, Tex. Just cause you can't take your shootin iron in the saloon with ye doesn't mean ye can't still have a good time.
Except I can. And my life is great, but what bothers me is all the poor people in your country who are victims of crime because cocksucking shitheads like yourself made it illegal for them to defend themselves. Seriously, that's fucking sick. As far as I'm concerned, if your attitude is that people should just be victims of crime, you're just as bad as the criminals. I hope you rot in hell.
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@drurowin said:
Repeat ultamatim in an even firmer tone of voice. Add the words "or else."
Exactly what ultimatum is being given? "Stop or I'll
tell mommycall the MPs who should be here any hour now"?
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@joe.edwards said:
@drurowin said:
@joe.edwards said:
@drurowin said:
Not when their first instinct is to go waving them around like an orang-utan that's just discovered its penis.Guns can't handle every situation, therefore police don't need guns.
FTFYWithout a gun, a policeman has about as much authority as a highschool hallway monitor. When they respond to an incident, people's lives are at stake. If they're just as vulnerable as you are, they're not going to be able to help you; furthermore, they can't even intimidate or deter a thug from committing a violent crime.
The best case: "Hold it right there, criminal scum!" "Yeah, sure, make me." The worst case: "Drop your weapon!" *blammo*
That I even have to explain this. Just. Wow. WTF.
Guns alone are not enough. In Montreal a few years ago there was a kid that was shot by the police because the officers were so physically non-threatening (one small man and one woman) that when they went to tell a group of 15-18 y/o kids to stop playing dice in a park things got ugly and the kids actually overpowered the officers. One of them started shooting when he saw a kid going for the gun of his partner.
To be effective, a police officer must be big enough to be physically imposing to petty criminals, and he also needs a taser and a gun for more serious situations. If something is missing from this spectrum incidents are bound to happen.
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@joe.edwards said:
@drurowin said:
It's from a movie.Repeat ultamatim in an even firmer tone of voice. Add the words "or else."
Exactly what ultimatum is being given? "Stop or I'll
tell mommycall the MPs who should be here any hour now"?Squad Leader: Simon Phoenix! Lie down with your hands behind your back.
Simon Phoenix: What's this? Six of you. Such nice, tidy uniforms. Oh I'm so scared!
[the Police Officers look at each other]
Simon Phoenix: What you guys don't have sarcasm anymore?
[Officer talks to his automated assistant]
Squad Leader: Maniac has responded with a scornful remark.
automated assistant: Approach, and repeat ultimatum in an even firmer tone of voice. Add the words, "or else".
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@drurowin said:
Calm down, Tex. Just cause you can't take your shootin iron in the saloon with ye doesn't mean ye can't still have a good time.
But how else will I shoot hookers? =(
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@Ronald said:
Guns alone are not enough. In Montreal a few years ago there was a kid that was shot by the police because the officers were so physically non-threatening (one small man and one woman) that when they went to tell a group of 15-18 y/o kids to stop playing dice in a park things got ugly and the kids actually overpowered the officers. One of them started shooting when he saw a kid going for the gun of his partner.
This is why the Taser is the best invention of the last 1000 years. You can quickly subdue a black man that's high on PCP, without resorting to sending him to the morgue.
To be effective, a police officer must be big enough to be physically imposing to petty criminals, and he also needs a taser and a gun for more serious situations. If something is missing from this spectrum incidents are bound to happen.
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@joe.edwards said:
@drurowin said:
Repeat ultamatim in an even firmer tone of voice. Add the words "or else."
Exactly what ultimatum is being given? "Stop or I'll
tell mommycall the MPs who should be here any hour now"?In that time, Somebody Gonna Get a Hurt Real Bad!
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What I've learned from this thread is that, all things considered, line numbers are more useful than morbiuswilters.
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@morbiuswilters said:
@drurowin said:
I'll just leave [url="http://consumerist.com/2013/05/30/man-doesnt-realize-loaded-guns-are-verboten-at-disney-world-leaves-his-on-ride-seat/"]this[/url] here.Calm down, Tex. Just cause you can't take your shootin iron in the saloon with ye doesn't mean ye can't still have a good time.
Except I can. And my life is great, but what bothers me is all the poor people in your country who are victims of crime because cocksucking shitheads like yourself made it illegal for them to defend themselves. Seriously, that's fucking sick. As far as I'm concerned, if your attitude is that people should just be victims of crime, you're just as bad as the criminals. I hope you rot in hell.
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@drurowin said:
This is why the Taser is the best invention of the last 1000 years. You can quickly subdue a black man that's high on PCP, without resorting to sending him to the morgue.
No, Tasers are awful. They aren't an alternative to a gun, they're just a way for police to batter people without the political repercussions of a shooting. Also, they still kill people and they're goddamn useless in any situation where you're in actual danger. If a criminal isn't stopped by having a gun pointed at him, then shooting him probably is your only option.
The only time I'd say they are useful is the example you gave: someone who is high or severely mentally ill. But that dude on PCP is just going to use again and next time he might kill someone, so maybe it is best if he ends up in the morgue.
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@drurowin said:
I'll just leave this here.
Disney World is basically hell. It's a slightly cleaner Europe, from what I gather. I don't know what point you were trying to make, though.
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@Zylon said:
What I've learned from this thread is that, all things considered, line numbers are more useful than morbiuswilters.
And where would any discussion be without Zylon's pointless trolling? You get the Gold Star of Being a Pathetic Shut-in Who Follows Me Around Just to Troll Me!
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@joe.edwards said:
Without a gun, a policeman has about as much authority as a highschool hallway monitor. When they respond to an incident, people's lives are at stake. If they're just as vulnerable as you are, they're not going to be able to help you; furthermore, they can't even intimidate or deter a thug from committing a violent crime.
The best case: "Hold it right there, criminal scum!" "Yeah, sure, make me." The worst case: "Drop your weapon!" *blammo*
That I even have to explain this. Just. Wow. WTF.
Except the UK police force tends to not have any problems with their huge fucking sticks that hurt like hell when they hit you, pepper spray, tear gas and tasers ... oh and unless there is a shit load of you they have power in numbers. If shit really kicks off, we do have armed officers.
Guns aren't available in the UK (there are exceptions to this, but you normally have to have a very good reason to own a firearm) and are bloody expensive to get hold of, that is why we have a problem with knife crime not gun crime.
I live in Spain and Work in Gibraltar, but was born in main land England. A Slovakian said to American collegue of mine : "You Americans can have most of the guns, we don't really need a lot of them here. The last time we needed them was when your grandfather was a young man".
I am sure US cops aren't as gun-ho as drurowin made out, but if you tend to upset the police here you will be banged up pretty quick guns or not.
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@morbiuswilters said:
Really? Because you have higher rates of nearly every kind of crime. (And that's including our shithole cities, which are basically unarmed pussyvilles, just like you'd be comfortable with. If you actually look at the areas where law-abiding citizens are allowed to have guns, it's a lot safer than where you live.)
Has crime rates got anything to do with whether the police are armed or not? Correlation != Causation.
I am sure it doesn't matter whether a police officer is armed or not if he isn't there while a attempted murder (that ends up as an actual murder) is taking place.
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@lucas said:
@morbiuswilters said:
Really? Because you have higher rates of nearly every kind of crime. (And that's including our shithole cities, which are basically unarmed pussyvilles, just like you'd be comfortable with. If you actually look at the areas where law-abiding citizens are allowed to have guns, it's a lot safer than where you live.)
Has crime rates got anything to do with whether the police are armed or not? Correlation != Causation.
Because Morbs totally just meant the police when he said law-abiding citizens. Yes, that's totally what that phrase meant.
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@lucas said:
I am sure US cops aren't as gun-ho as drurowin made out...
Depends on the area. A lot of our cities are police state shitholes, but they're run by Democratic Party machines and you're not allowed to have guns there. But the police can be really nuts.
In many parts of the country, if a police officer drives by and sees you holding a gun, he'll come back around and chit-chat about where the good hunting is or where you can buy cheap ammo.
One of our safest states, Vermont, has no state gun laws at all. Basically, if you abide by the very minimal Federal gun laws, you can do whatever you want. You can fly in from another country, borrow a friend's AR-15 and walk around with it slung over your shoulder. And Vermont's murder rate is lower than the UK's, especially when you consider that the US and UK count murders very differently (in the US any death which seems likely to have been human-caused is counted as murder; in the UK only convictions for murder are counted.. obviously there are more suspicious deaths than there are murder convictions..)
So when people say guns are the problem, I just have to laugh in their stupid fucking faces. It's like claiming that cars turn people into drunk drivers or computers turn people into raving Internet dipshits like drurowin.
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@lucas said:
I am sure it doesn't matter whether a police officer is armed or not if he isn't there while a attempted murder (that ends up as an actual murder) is taking place.
Obviously armed police can't stop crimes where they aren't present (which is why you need armed citizens, too). But they can stop crimes they are present for, which is a lot of them. Do you really think it's preferable to have police standing around while some woman is raped or murdered just so you can say "Hey, our police don't even carry guns!" And, yeah, your police have batons and mace, but those are virtually useless against someone with a machete or a gun (which does happen in the UK, your civil-rights-violating laws notwithstanding).
The goal isn't to have the police on equal footing with the criminals because you find it "more sporting"; it's to give the police (and law-abiding citizens) every reasonable advantage over the criminals.
That said, I am bothered by some of the guns police carry. I don't care if a beat cop has a semi-auto handgun, but when I see police on the subway or at the airport carrying submachine guns, that's kind of fucked. Outside of swat teams, I don't think police should have anything more powerful than a handgun or shotgun.
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@morbiuswilters said:
Vermont's murder rate is lower than the UK's, especially when you consider that the US and UK count murders very differently (in the US any death which seems likely to have been human-caused is counted as murder; in the UK only convictions for murder are counted.. obviously there are more suspicious deaths than there are murder convictions..)
So when people say guns are the problem, I just have to laugh in their stupid fucking faces.
It's unfair to compare the murder rate in a low-density state with the murder rate in a high-density country. Clustering is a major factor in crime.
However numbers do show that in the USA, states with less gun control laws have less violent crimes per capita.
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@lucas said:
Has crime rates got anything to do with whether the police are armed or not? Correlation != Causation.
Read this article. It mentions a lot of incidents where simple citizens carrying guns prevented massacres.
People in gun-free zones are sitting ducks.
Here is the tldr for the article:
@Article linked above said:"We know from Census Bureau surveys that something beyond 100,000 uses of guns for self-defense occur every year," adds Professor Emeritus James Q. Wilson, a public policy expert at the University of California-Los Angeles.
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@Ronald said:
It's unfair to compare the murder rate in a low-density state with the murder rate in a high-density country.
It's kind of hard to compare crime statistics at all, honestly. It's really more of a quality-of-life thing: Vermont is gorgeous, you're less likely to be murdered and the guns flow like beer, which they also have a lot of. Not to mention tons of weed. So whatever Vermont is doing, they're doing okay, and fuck the UK.
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@morbiuswilters said:
@Ronald said:
It's unfair to compare the murder rate in a low-density state with the murder rate in a high-density country.
It's kind of hard to compare crime statistics at all, honestly. It's really more of a quality-of-life thing: Vermont is gorgeous, you're less likely to be murdered and the guns flow like beer, which they also have a lot of. Not to mention tons of weed. So whatever Vermont is doing, they're doing okay, and fuck the UK.
A while ago there was a lot of beautiful places in the UK. But most of them got their freedom back and are now different countries.
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@drurowin said:
You can quickly subdue a black man that's high on PCP, without resorting to sending him to the morgue.
But apparently not a woman who hands out free food samples at Costco:
Two deputies went to the store to check a report of a disorderly person and used a Taser to try to subdue the woman, Loudoun Sheriff Michael Chapman said. But the woman kept advancing, so one of the deputies fired at her and killed her, the sheriff said.
Can't we all just get along?
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@morbiuswilters said:
It's kind of hard to compare crime statistics at all, honestly. It's really more of a quality-of-life thing: Vermont is gorgeous, you're less likely to be murdered and the guns flow like beer, which they also have a lot of. Not to mention tons of weed. So whatever Vermont is doing, they're doing okay, and fuck the UK.
Before I lived in Spain, I lived in Dorset England. Very low crime rate, the place is pretty sleepy apart from he main conurbation Bournemouth and the Countryside and Beaches are lovely (when it isn't pissing down with rain)
London and pretty much any city has certain parts where there is a lot of problems. Nobody in the UK (unless they are criminal or use a gun in the job) feels like they need to carry a firearm. I am considered weird by most of my countrymen for knowing how to use a (single shot) rifle.
I don't know where you guys get this picture that the UK is somehow dangerous or there isn't nice places in Britain, but I suppose it same way that over in the UK we get the idea that most Americans are loud and ignorant.
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@boomzilla said:
But apparently not a woman who hands out free food samples at Costco:
LOLWUT?Two deputies went to the store to check a report of a disorderly person and used a Taser to try to subdue the woman, Loudoun Sheriff Michael Chapman said. But the woman kept advancing, so one of the deputies fired at her and killed her, the sheriff said.
Scott continued to advance, officials said, and a deputy opened fire, striking and killing her. A second deputy was hit by a bullet in the leg and is recovering.
Friendly fire? In a supermarket? From 'experienced' officers?
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Chapman said the two deputies involved in the incident, who have not been identified, were experienced. Both have been placed on paid administrative leave, a routine step in such instances.
“These deputies are not rookies,” he said. “Both have several years on the job, and both are fully certified and have maintained all their training.”
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@PJH said:
@boomzilla said:
But apparently not a woman who hands out free food samples at Costco:
LOLWUT?
Friendly fire? In a supermarket? From 'experienced' officers?The article I linked to says this:
The second deputy was wounded, possibly when a bullet ricocheted and hit his leg. He is expected to recover.
So, sort of, but probably not the way that you seem to be implying.
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@PJH said:
Friendly fire? In a supermarket? From 'experienced' officers?
Have you ever been in a Costco when they hand out free samples? Officer McLimp is lucky he got off that easy.
