What's an image file?
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@Gern_Blaanston said in What's an image file?:
@loopback0 said in What's an image file?:
@Gurth said in What's an image file?:
I guess they know how to take screenshots with that but not how to save photos from a site if they can’t right-click?
They know how to take screenshots but not how to crop them.
Or most likely they just don't care.Cropping a picture requires the use of some sort of image editing program.
On an iPhone you can do it with the screenshot tool
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@loopback0 said in What's an image file?:
@Gern_Blaanston said in What's an image file?:
@loopback0 said in What's an image file?:
@Gurth said in What's an image file?:
I guess they know how to take screenshots with that but not how to save photos from a site if they can’t right-click?
They know how to take screenshots but not how to crop them.
Or most likely they just don't care.Cropping a picture requires the use of some sort of image editing program.
On an iPhone you can do it with the screenshot tool
Yes. And that is a type of image editing program.
Regardless of what you use, whether it is something built into your phone or a desktop PC using the latest version of Photoshop, it requires a certain amount of knowledge.
What "tool" do you use?
Where is it located?
What are the steps required to crop the picture and then save it?To you and me it seems simple and obvious. But for many people, it seems very complicated and they have no idea what to do.
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@Tsaukpaetra take screenshot, right click, airdrop to phone.
Still more work than the camera approach.
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@topspin said in What's an image file?:
Still more work than the camera approach.
I'm somewhat disappointed that, for all the added complexity of all solutions other than the
wooden tablecamera approach, nobody has been able to make it truly modern, with IoT, unreliable wireless protocols and lots of network dependencies.Come on people, think outside the box!
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@remi Actually they were able to make it truly modern. And thus their solutions just failed completely, and cannot be shown here.
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Some people manage to view their photos on their computer, but how to upload them to their Nature observation account?
You guessed right: Take a photo of the computer screen with your mobile.
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@BernieTheBernie The discussion above made me think of ... https://xkcd.com/763/
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Next variation: this is a screenshot. And it is textually stated that it really is.
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@BernieTheBernie What’s even worse about that picture is that the bubble saying “Screenshot” at the bottom must mean whoever made this screenshot, has the macOS Screenshot utility in the Dock for easy access, so this is probably not the first, let alone only, time a picture has been shared this way.
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@Gurth and the fact there are built in keyboard shortcuts for this on Mac is just funny on the side.
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@Gurth … I do sometimes share images by screenshoting them (from Google Photos or wherever). It does two things:
- Reduces the resolution to what fits on the screen, and with it the size, because there is no point in sending them in the original resolution (as digital cameras, even the crappy ones in phones, have much higher resolutions than screens these days)
- Does not carry over any EXIF information like time and location that I might not want to expose, accidentally or otherwise.
and does them in less steps than opening the photo in an editor and saving it again with corresponding options.
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@Arantor said in What's an image file?:
@Gurth and the fact there are built in keyboard shortcuts for this on Mac
Which is what I always use. But a minor problem with the keyboard shortcuts is that they’re not really discoverable, while the screenshot app is. However, what I find really odd is that the app looks and works differently from pressing ⇧⌘3 or ⇧⌘4. Though for all I know it does exactly the same behind the scenes, just cast into an app to provide all the options on-screen, of course.
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@Bulb said in What's an image file?:
@Gurth … I do sometimes share images by screenshoting them (from Google Photos or wherever). It does two things:
On a Mac, right-click the image file, and in the menu that opens, go to Quick Actions and then Convert Image. A window opens in which you can choose file format and one of four default sizes, and you can uncheck a box that says to keep the metadata.
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@Gurth said in What's an image file?:
the app looks and works differently
Of course it does.
Filed under: Think Different™
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@Gurth said in What's an image file?:
But a minor problem with the keyboard shortcuts is that they’re not really discoverable
I guess Mac keyboards got rid of Print Screen?
⇧⌘3 or ⇧⌘4.
I guess that's modern innovation for you.
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@dcon my $20 LED keyboard spells the whole thing out.
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@boomzilla said in What's an image file?:
@dcon my $20 LED keyboard spells the whole thing out.
Guess it's a good thing I qualified where I saw it! (I've never seen it spelled out before)
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Mine says F12
Prt Scrand in a fancy edgy tech font because it's an MSI laptop. And naturally it has the LED lightup thing, so when I press FN, the text goes orange.
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@Arantor said in What's an image file?:
Mine says F12
Prt Scrand in a fancy edgy tech font because it's an MSI laptop. And naturally it has the LED lightup thing, so when I press FN, the text goes orange.
Well, actually, my MS keyboard is PrtScr
SysRqThe Lenovo has a snipping image under the PrtSc.
Standards. Yup. One for every
manufacturercomputer and keyboard model!
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@boomzilla said in What's an image file?:
I guess Mac keyboards got rid of Print Screen?
You mean the key that sends the current screen contents to the printer? Well, yes.
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@Gurth said in What's an image file?:
@Bulb said in What's an image file?:
@Gurth … I do sometimes share images by screenshoting them (from Google Photos or wherever). It does two things:
On a Mac, right-click the image file, and in the menu that opens, go to Quick Actions and then Convert Image. A window opens in which you can choose file format and one of four default sizes, and you can uncheck a box that says to keep the metadata.
That is... waaaaay more complicated than screenshoting.
I use screenshots for almost everything I post here, for basically the same reasons as @Bulb. This requires the exact same minimal (
) amount of work irregardless of whether the picture is a file on my computer, something on a web page with whatever layers of 
protections to try and prevent me from copying it, or a composite of several windows that I just stick next to each other. As a minor added advantage, I don't have to delete whatever cruft might end up on my disk since the screenshot goes just from clipboard to WTD
editor and then goes away from my computer.
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@dcon said in What's an image file?:
@Arantor said in What's an image file?:
Mine says F12
Prt Scrand in a fancy edgy tech font because it's an MSI laptop. And naturally it has the LED lightup thing, so when I press FN, the text goes orange.
Well, actually, my MS keyboard is PrtScr
SysRqThe Lenovo has a snipping image under the PrtSc.
Standards. Yup. One for every
manufacturercomputer and keyboard model!My Logitech keyboard dumbed it down even more:
(with wooden table for extra pointz)
: PrtScn (MS 4000) or PrtSc (Lenovo)