What the Daily WTF?

Unfortunately while it , I guess (wisely) serves random html uploads with a security policy that makes the paper planes not display. Just mentally s/// and you’ll get it.

Just link directly to the png (wherever that is) like you've done with ?

A fancy sortable table would be neat too

You could just upload a CSV, too, so I can sort it in Excel.

Luhmann

@topspin said in The Official WTDWTF 2023 Recap:

so I can ~~sort~~pivot it in Excel

remi

I'm a bit intrigued by the distribution of the number of votes on the "best post." There is clearly a cluster of 25-30 votes, with AFAICS only a single post(er) that goes above 30.

This doesn't match the usual Pareto distribution of most social indicators. As opposed to, for example, the number of posts, where there is one clear "winner" and then in a handful of people the number goes down by a factor 10 or so. This is the usual distribution of about anything on forums, if you look at the "users" page sorted by any of the available indicators you'll get this kind of things. But not for the "best post."

Which gets me to wonder, is this max number of 30 roughly the number of active (and voting) members? Then all those posts with 25-30 votes are basically "up-voted by everyone."

What might confirms this is that Garage and Lounge posts do get a very similar number of votes (maybe more 20-25, but not hugely smaller) which would match the fact that most regulars are also Garage/Lounge members (with a few exceptions that would account for the slightly smaller overall count).

So, is this forum made of 30-40 active members?

izzion

So, is this forum made of 30-40 active members?

1 member, but the kicks in around the 40th alt.

izzion

Last year I asked “if I’ve missed any elusive lurkers or someone too obvious, point it out,” and nobody did, but I know for a fact there were plenty of people missed. Disappointing! This time was done with a slightly longer list, though might have still missed one or two. A fair few disappearances too.

Feature request for the 2024 recap: Exclude the PBP Games threads from the metrics (favorite thread and post count)

topspin

Which gets me to wonder, is this max number of 30 roughly the number of active (and voting) members? Then all those posts with 25-30 votes are basically "up-voted by everyone."

More or less, I figure. When I did the list two years ago, the highs were: 37, 37, 33, 33, 32, etc.

So it looks like either this year "up-voted by everyone" was a lower percentage of everyone active, or we lost several active users since then. Well, the second part is definitely true.

dcon

@Arantor said in The Official WTDWTF 2023 Recap:

@DogsB said in The Official WTDWTF 2023 Recap:

@kazitor Nicely done! And tables too!

** happy @Zenith noises **

You are supposed to put tabular content in a table though.

But clicking the headers doesn't sort!

izzion

@dcon said in The Official WTDWTF 2023 Recap:

@Arantor said in The Official WTDWTF 2023 Recap:

@DogsB said in The Official WTDWTF 2023 Recap:

@kazitor Nicely done! And tables too!

** happy @Zenith noises **

You are supposed to put tabular content in a table though.

But clicking the headers doesn't sort!

This is a real table, like 1999 intended. None of that newfangled JS crap to sort and filter.

Zecc

@dcon said in The Official WTDWTF 2023 Recap:

But clicking the headers doesn't sort!

That's user agent limitation. :closed_wont_fix:

Arantor

@Zecc said in The Official WTDWTF 2023 Recap:

@dcon said in The Official WTDWTF 2023 Recap:

But clicking the headers doesn't sort!

That's user agent limitation. :closed_wont_fix:

See also HTML specifications.

kazitor

@topspin said in The Official WTDWTF 2023 Recap:

@kazitor said in The Official WTDWTF 2023 Recap:

Unfortunately while it , I guess (wisely) serves random html uploads with a security policy that makes the paper planes not display. Just mentally s/// and you’ll get it.

Just link directly to the png (wherever that is) like you've done with ?

There is no PNG to link to; the icon comes from a font and the security policy prevents its download. If you save the file locally, or install the font directly, it should all appear then.

For whatever reason webtypes years ago decided SVGs are too hard for simple icons. Admittedly SVG is a horribly-bloated format clearly intended for being embedded as part of HTML rather than merely providing scalable images, though I'm marginally surprised nobody's promoted any other format that just encodes Beziers with fills and strokes.

A fancy sortable table would be neat too

You could just upload a CSV, too, so I can sort it in Excel.

Only concern is the nicely-formatted links then.

Which gets me to wonder, is this max number of 30 roughly the number of active (and voting) members? Then all those posts with 25-30 votes are basically "up-voted by everyone."

Alas, while pulling a page of posts will indicate the number of boats on each (and plenty of other data that makes the scraping somewhat suboptimal), the only way to get the list of upboating users is to query each post individually. I would have liked to compile stats on who's giving out the most boats otherwise. Well, who's giving out the second most boats.

@kazitor said in The Official WTDWTF 2023 Recap:

Last year I asked “if I’ve missed any elusive lurkers or someone too obvious, point it out,” and nobody did, but I know for a fact there were plenty of people missed. Disappointing! This time was done with a slightly longer list, though might have still missed one or two. A fair few disappearances too.

Feature request for the 2024 recap: Exclude the PBP Games threads from the metrics (favorite thread and post count)

Probably. I have all of them ignored so it doesn't even enter my mind

Could also exclude Funny Stuff from best, but then there are plenty of other threads where shameless reposts can manifest so it's saner to just not try.

izzion

@izzion said in The Official WTDWTF 2023 Recap:

@kazitor said in The Official WTDWTF 2023 Recap:

Last year I asked “if I’ve missed any elusive lurkers or someone too obvious, point it out,” and nobody did, but I know for a fact there were plenty of people missed. Disappointing! This time was done with a slightly longer list, though might have still missed one or two. A fair few disappearances too.

Feature request for the 2024 recap: Exclude the PBP Games threads from the metrics (favorite thread and post count)

Probably. I have all of them ignored so it doesn't even enter my mind

Could also exclude Funny Stuff from best, but then there are plenty of other threads where shameless reposts can manifest so it's saner to just not try.

Well, you know, it's less about excluding shameless reposts and more about making sure that the size of my epeen is properly reported and not diluted to 3.95 in. due to my public exhibitionism of my masochistic tendencies

HardwareGeek

compile stats on who's giving out the most boats otherwise. Well, who's giving out the second most boats.

Yeah, we don't need no steenkin' statistics to tell us the winner of that.

Probably. I have all of them ignored so it doesn't even enter my mind

I have most of them ignored, but I missed at least a couple.

It would be interesting to see the results both with and without. In 2023, it was the difference between second and third place for most posts .

HardwareGeek

3.95 in.

Sounds like a you problem.

izzion

@HardwareGeek said in The Official WTDWTF 2023 Recap:

@izzion said in The Official WTDWTF 2023 Recap:

3.95 in.

Sounds like a you problem.

I swear it's really in excess of 7.75 in if measured properly!

kazitor

3.95 in.

Well, you just made me lose all interest in caring about your plight

loopback0

@HardwareGeek said in The Official WTDWTF 2023 Recap:

@izzion said in The Official WTDWTF 2023 Recap:

3.95 in.

Sounds like a you problem.

I swear it's really in excess of 7.75 in if measured properly!

From the other end of the ruler?

izzion

It looks like @Carnage and @Polygeekery are our most prolific tax avoiders, and @DogsB is putting his Irish experience to good use as well. Over 10,000 posts between them and they only paid thread taxes 4 times

loopback0

It looks like @Carnage and @Polygeekery are our most prolific tax avoiders, and @DogsB is putting his Irish experience to good use as well. Over 10,000 posts between them and they only paid thread taxes 4 times

@Polygeekery even paid the thread tax at least once where the title didn't start "Re:"

topspin

@loopback0 it’s neither in the lounge nor the garage, and yet I haven’t even seen that thread at all.
Wonder how that happened. Maybe I was on vacation.

HardwareGeek

@topspin said in The Official WTDWTF 2023 Recap:

Maybe I was on vacation.

From work? From the forum?

Arantor

@kazitor SVGs were a complex format long before they were adopted for web icons and fonts, up to and including dynamic content…

BernieTheBernie

number of active (and voting) members

There are users who do not post, but vote sometimes. E.g.

remi

@BernieTheBernie they could still be called "active."

(in first approximation though, there is likely a very high correlation between number of posts and number of votes (given))

HardwareGeek

likely a very high correlation between number of posts and number of votes (given)

@blakeyrat would disagree, if he was still participating.

remi

@HardwareGeek he would then be wrong (as usual ) since the correlation would still be high.

Also, you have another example of such a poster right above and below your post. Though that user (hopefully?) doesn't as much as .

HardwareGeek

that user (hopefully?) doesn't as much as .

I don't think even itself s as much as .

izzion

Feature request for 2024: Oldest threads that were necromanced by a third party with a relevant post :half-tro-pop:

Arantor

Feature request for 2024: Oldest threads that were necromanced by a third party with a relevant post :half-tro-pop:

How far into a thread do we have to go to quantify the neck, for said neck-romance?

loopback0