Youtube vs ad blockers
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@Gurth said in Youtube vs ad blockers:
@Arantor Wait, they published your stuff and didn’t even give you a complimentary copy but expected you to buy one?
Getting paid in exposure isn't new. :(
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@DogsB said in Youtube vs ad blockers:
@hungrier said in Youtube vs ad blockers:
@HardwareGeek said in Youtube vs ad blockers:
outright scams, like the Scottish Laird company
I think the pile-on when everyone called them a scam was a bit overblown. To me it always seemed like one of those gag gifts for people with too much money, like those companies that would "name a star" after you
I have alien abduction insurance.
I just had a fun idea...
Actually selling alien abduction insurance, but payout is contingent on prooving the abduction. So you get to perform the very invasive abduction fantasy examination with proper doctors and then reject their claims.
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@Carnage Kink thread is
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@Bulb said in Youtube vs ad blockers:
Also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GARcKCaUfI
TL;DW: People who used adblocker will just try different ones until one works, but a lot of people who never even knew adblockers were a thing are hearing about them now and at least some of them are gonna try … and find out how much better the experience is, of course. Also enshittification by another name of ad-supported content.
I'm sure this has happened before when some large company decided to go to war against adblockers so that it made the news. Might even have been google.
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@Gurth said in Youtube vs ad blockers:
@Arantor Wait, they published your stuff and didn’t even give you a complimentary copy but expected you to buy one?
Correct. That was, of course, the entire point: tell a bunch of impressionable creatives that their work was good enough to publish but convince them to pay for it being so.
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@Gurth said in Youtube vs ad blockers:
@Arantor Wait, they published your stuff and didn’t even give you a complimentary copy but expected you to buy one?
How are they going to make money if they give away a copy to everyone in the main small set who would be interested in owning one?
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@Carnage said in Youtube vs ad blockers:
Actually selling alien abduction insurance, but payout is contingent on prooving the abduction
That just sounds like every other insurance that never pays, only difference being low market saturation.
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@topspin said in Youtube vs ad blockers:
@Carnage said in Youtube vs ad blockers:
Actually selling alien abduction insurance, but payout is contingent on prooving the abduction
That just sounds every other insurance that never pays, only difference being low market saturation.
And getting money from crackpots. Though I guess that would also kinda be the same...
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@Arantor said in Youtube vs ad blockers:
This reminds me of the time I entered a poetry competition, I didn’t “win” but they wanted to publish it in their anthology. Which to 18 year old me was cool, until I realised that a) I wasn’t going to see any money for that and b) they were making this book so me and the fellow contributors could buy it in the scummiest form of vanity publishing.
Partially related: Before I was born, my mother entered a Betty Crocker recipe submission contest, where the winner would get a cash prize.
My mother did not win, but six months later Betty Crocker came out with a mix like the recipe she submitted. Chocolate-cinnamon cake, IIRC.
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@jinpa "Contest losers will be robbed of their intellectual property. Contest winner will get a small cash prize... and be robbed of their intellectual property."
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Before the whole "YouTube vs. adblockers" thing hit the news I had a couple of instances where I tried to watch a video and YouTube put up a nasty message about using an adblocker. I ignored it because fuck you, that's why.
I just realized that I haven't seen any of those messages since then, which leads me to believe that uBlock Origin, which I have set to auto update, has made some ... adjustments ... which is pretty much what I expected would happen.
I guess YouTube as adopted the video game DRM mindset of "If it only works 1% of the time that's better than zero."
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@Bulb and in the meantime my adsense revenue is going down. Thanks, Obama.
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@dangeRuss said in Youtube vs ad blockers:
@Bulb and in the meantime my adsense revenue is going down. Thanks, Obama.
There’s been no money in that for ages. Sponsored content is where its at.
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@DogsB Note that sponsored content can't be targeted to the viewer, only indirectly by sponsoring content that is likely to be viewed by the target group.
Some time ago an argument was posted somewhere here that by buying ads around good content, the company signals that it trusts their product is good to be worth expensive advertising. While the google-selected adsense ads that follow you around the web fail to send that signal and are therefore much less effective.
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@Bulb said in Youtube vs ad blockers:
@DogsB Note that sponsored content can't be targeted to the viewer, only indirectly by sponsoring content that is likely to be viewed by the target group.
Assuming those were actually well targeted to the viewership by the creator, that’s probably better targeting than the ad-surveillance based targeting. Not the least because it’s something the viewer chose to watch and can see how that’s supposed to be relevant without being creeped out by tracking.
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@DogsB said in Youtube vs ad blockers:
@dangeRuss said in Youtube vs ad blockers:
@Bulb and in the meantime my adsense revenue is going down. Thanks, Obama.
There’s been no money in that for ages. Sponsored content is where its at.
I didn't say I was making a ton. But it's coming pretty close to covering hosting.
Now how do I get some of that sweet sweet sponsored content?
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@dangeRuss said in Youtube vs ad blockers:
Now how do I get some of that sweet sweet sponsored content?
Start by making content that is interesting enough to consistently get enough views that sponsors think it's worth sponsoring.
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@HardwareGeek said in Youtube vs ad blockers:
@dangeRuss said in Youtube vs ad blockers:
Now how do I get some of that sweet sweet sponsored content?
Start by making content that is interesting enough to consistently get enough views that sponsors think it's worth sponsoring.
That sounds like work.
I do get bites from what are probably scammers, but almost never hear back.
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On a related note, Zuck has started asking for money (in Europe, at least). For me, however, the free choice didn't even work and kept looping back to the choice screen. Ok then.
I can't be arsed to figure out what screwed it up: cookie settings or just them trying to dupe people into paying, because everybody will block the stupid ads anyway. So instead I've finally yeeted that shit, 10 years overdue, I suppose. Not that I trust them not to have "accidentally" misconfigured the servers which handle account deletions
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@Zerosquare said in Youtube vs ad blockers:
YouTube is quite costly to run, and advertising revenues have fallen significantly those last few years.
I wouldn't be surprised if managers had been told "enough fooling around, we want to see money rolling in now", and now they're desperately trying to make their numbers look better (and shooting themselves in the foot).
I was reminded of this thread because I'm sitting here watching YouTube videos and I'm thinking "Damn, everything is loading really fast. Every video I click on just pops right up instantly. What happened to all the slow downs that everyone is complaining about?"
Am I just really lucky? Did I accidentally stumble on some magic browser configuration? Maybe Google doesn't care about the small town I live in? Maybe I just jinxed it and I'll be fucked tomorrow?
I know one thing, lack of money is not why Google is doing this. Google made $76 Billion in the third quarter of 2023. Just in the third quarter. That's $844 Million PER DAY. It's also $8 Billion more than they made in the third quarter the previous year.
So, yes, YouTube is VERY expensive to run. But declining revenue is not a problem that Goggle is having. They are making a metric shit-ton of money and it keeps going up.
I guess $844 Million a day makes people do weird shit.
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@Gern_Blaanston They're saving up for bribes to get more H1Bs. Disney didn't buy another copyright extension for Mickey Mouse last year so Congress must be raising its prices.
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Maybe I just jinxed it and I'll be fucked tomorrow?
Yep:
It's not just you: YouTube is slowing down your PC if you have AdBlock installed by making your CPU sweat—though despite the company's past behaviour, it's probably AdBlock's fault
YouTube Premium members also appear to be impacted.
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@Deadfast YouTube has the right to try to deal with ad blockers, that’s to an extent fair game, but doing this shit to paying customers is something else, and is firmly not cool.
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@Deadfast: turned out to be a bug in some (not all) ad-blocking extensions:
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/latest-adblock-update-causes-massive-youtube-performance-hit/
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@Zerosquare I'd feel sorry for the unfair accusation if YouTube's maliciousness wasn't indistinguishable from AdBlock's incompetence.
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@Deadfast said in Youtube vs ad blockers:
@Zerosquare I'd feel sorry for the unfair accusation if YouTube's maliciousness wasn't indistinguishable from AdBlock's incompetence.
The fact that YouTube was assumed to be malicious until proven otherwise speaks volumes for the level of contempt we perceive Google (and by extension YouTube) has for its users.
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@Arantor said in Youtube vs ad blockers:
level of contempt we perceive Google (and by extension YouTube) has for its users.
Amen, brother!
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@Arantor said in Youtube vs ad blockers:
the level of contempt we perceive Google (and by extension YouTube) has for its users.
Hey, at least Youtube execs haven't sent some of the users:
a book on surviving the death of a spouse, a bloody pig mask, a fetal pig and a funeral wreath and live insects
eBay hit with $3M fine, admits to “terrorizing innocent people”
eBay must pay maximum fine for putting Massachusetts couple “through pure hell.”
As far as we know, anyway.
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Status: I'm really confused. For some reason uBlock is not keeping YouTube on the whitelist.
I click the button, it adds www.youtube.com to the whitelist (verified in settings) all is good. Open a new tab, it's gone again.
Good. I feel my hate growing.
