Vote for NodeBB!
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@boomzilla If you're not using redis as your main data store, then it is okay (if not ideal) if Redis is a little wonky at first.
Nothing meant to be permanent is stored there, so if you accidentally
FLUSHDB
, then you don't really lose anything. It's just a bridge for communicating across horizontally scaled instances of NodeBB, and storing session tokens.
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@julianlam oh, yeah, "a little wonky" goes over great around here.
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@boomzilla said in Vote for NodeBB!:
@julianlam oh, yeah, "a little wonky"
goes over greatis business as usual around here.
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@boomzilla said in Vote for NodeBB!:
@julianlam oh, yeah, "a little wonky" goes over great around here.
It’s been a while since we ousted the last guy who lost two weeks of highly valuable shitposting.
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@topspin said in Vote for NodeBB!:
@boomzilla said in Vote for NodeBB!:
@julianlam oh, yeah, "a little wonky" goes over great around here.
It’s been a while since we ousted the last guy who lost two weeks of highly valuable shitposting.
OTOH, that's not why we ousted him. It was his ouster of the highly valuable shitposters that crossed the line.
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@Arantor said in Vote for NodeBB!:
@jinpa well, that at least makes a change from my complaint with Mastodon which is that for being a Twitter replacement, it doesn't do the one thing I actualy liked about Twitter, and that alone makes it less than useless to me. (Not to mention some of the things it does do that make it frustratingly unpleasant to use in practice.)
You didn't say what is the one thing
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in Vote for NodeBB!:
@topspin said in Vote for NodeBB!:
@Zecc as long as search works, I welcome our AI generated overlords.
I can't follow you down that rabbit hole.
I saw a documentary one time about an AI called the T-1000 who was a little too good at search.
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@sockpuppet7 said in Vote for NodeBB!:
You didn't say what is the one thing
So Mastodon is great if you follow a bunch of people and you see their content and their n+1 level content (so you see what they liked/retweeted/whatever), and that's the limit of what you wanted to see.
What you don't get is the slice through all the things due to the almighty algorithm. Prior to Elon's various interventions, I rather liked Twitter because I'd follow a bunch of people, and I'd get various content on my timeline that wasn't my follows, nor the content that my follows liked or retweeted, but was still related. In other words, I liked the fact that my feed had things of interest that were multiple degrees of separation away but still relevant. Of course, this has largely broken since Elon, but I found it possible to minimise by just straight up blocking him and several like him. (It's still far worse, objectively, for showing me things I care about that aren't already within a degree of separation.)
The thing about Mastodon is that the federation makes that borderline impossible to meaningfully do in any useful way. Yes, you can see the local content (meh, I like several things and this is either too localised to my instance, or too generic to be interesting) or you can see the feed of content of sites connected to the current instance, which manifests as an ever scrolling feed of content that goes by far too fast to actually read, let alone engage with.
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@izzion said in Vote for NodeBB!:
@topspin said in Vote for NodeBB!:
@barisu that can’t be us, we’re like 8 people. Or is the pill that tiny?
Never underestimate the power of the @boomzilla zombie army!
Reminds me of the local business awards in my city. Please nominate and vote for us under the "Best plumber or drain related services" category.
... although I guess if there's a place that's really full of shit it's...
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@Arantor said in Vote for NodeBB!:
Yes, you can see the local content (meh, I like several things and this is either too localised to my instance, or too generic to be interesting) or you can see the feed of content of sites connected to the current instance, which manifests as an ever scrolling feed of content that goes by far too fast to actually read, let alone engage with.
Seriously discussing here, the power of a local instance is at odds with the fact that anyone can use their Mastodon account to post about anything and everything.
If I were part of a developers mastodon instance, would they want their local feed filled with pictures of my breakfast, or coffee, or whatnot?
To that end, were there a way to post only to your local instance, then that'd sort of by a way to address it (although it does go against the decentralization ethos).
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@Arantor and if you want something to , you should see it when people keep (re-)discovering that if you have a DM with someone on Mastodon, and you mention another user, they get notified too.
E_BYDESIGN
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@julianlam and that's exactly my point why the decentralisation doesn't work.
You can post any old shit on Twitter too - you always could, and people certainly did - but the general network effects in later years prevented the worst of the dross from rising to the top.
It amuses me no end when I talk to people about Mastodon about how they keep running into these exact things - it's also the amount of issues people have with local moderation on an instance, then I remembered that a number of these people weren't on forums in the early 2000s where we had all this the first time...
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@Arantor unfortunately the Mastodon nerds don't seem to understand that one of Twitter's biggest advantages is that it's centralised.
Mastodon's just a lot of different services pretending to be one.
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@loopback0 RIGHT?!
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@loopback0 said in Vote for NodeBB!:
@Arantor unfortunately the Mastodon nerds don't seem to understand that one of Twitter's biggest advantages is that it's centralised.
Mastodon's just a lot of different services pretending to be one.Well, it’s also it’s biggest disadvantage.
The talk about pre- or post- wouldn’t matter if it wasn’t centralized under a single power.
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@topspin Mastodon is just a lot of different services with that same problem pretending to be one.
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@topspin It wouldn't matter if the decentralised things could do the one thing the centralised thing used to do reasonably well - the problem is that being decentralised, it can't.
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Last week of voting, its very close gogo.
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@kazitor said in Vote for NodeBB!:
What sort of bizzarro alternate universe is this from, where people are voting for Discourse?
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@Gern_Blaanston this is going to sound weird but there are actually people who... like... Discourse. There are even people who willingly choose to use it over alternatives.
I mean, these people are objectively wrong, but nonetheless they still do so.
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@Arantor it's not entirely terrible, and the fact it has significantly more votes than Mastodon (and phpBB ) means at least that many people aren't wrong.
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@loopback0 Mastodon serves a purpose but I think many of the adoptees aren’t really happy with it because it doesn’t really do what Twitter was actually good at once upon a time.
But depending on your needs it can be the right tool for the job, just like everything else.
I am however oddly gratified to see that SMF didn’t get a mention.
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@Arantor One good thing I can say about Mastodon is that it became the basis for Gab, which has a pretty good forum software. Gab, however, has made a ton of improvements to their software in the past few years.
(The community, however, is not loved by everyone.)
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@Arantor said in Vote for NodeBB!:
@Gern_Blaanston this is going to sound weird but there are actually people who... like... Discourse. There are even people who willingly choose to use it over alternatives.
What about people who are not named Jeff?
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Guess I'm on a different IP than two weeks ago.
Votes again
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@PleegWat said in Vote for NodeBB!:
Guess I'm on a different IP than two weeks ago.
Votes again
Oof.
changes IP address
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@Gern_Blaanston I know a Jeff who hates Discourse. He is one of the good guys.
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@PleegWat said in Vote for NodeBB!:
Guess I'm on a different IP than two weeks ago.
Votes again
I guess someone that makes a poll about internet tools and don't anticipate this deserves it
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@topspin said in Vote for NodeBB!:
changes IP address
Wait, you don't need an account or leave some kind of details?
I might push the aside then...
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@JBert said in Vote for NodeBB!:
@topspin said in Vote for NodeBB!:
changes IP address
Wait, you don't need an account or leave some kind of details?
I might push the aside then...
I voted 3 times today.
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It’s still on third place.
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@topspin Flarum suddenly got a lot of votes
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@loopback0 said in Vote for NodeBB!:
@topspin Flarum suddenly got a lot of votes
If you're going to stuff the ballot box, it's better to rig second and third place rather than get your preferred winner DQ'd for rigging first place
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@loopback0 said in Vote for NodeBB!:
@topspin Flarum suddenly got a lot of votes
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@loopback0 said in Vote for NodeBB!:
@loopback0 said in Vote for NodeBB!:
@topspin Flarum suddenly got a lot of votes
And civility is that meme of the guy celebrating like crazy but on the bronze medal end of the podium.
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What's funny is that since the poll went up, one of the ex-founders of Flarum has announced his own newest forum software platform, Waterhole - https://waterhole.dev
$299 per site is... interestingly priced compared to the competition in his tier.
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@loopback0 said in Vote for NodeBB!:
@loopback0 said in Vote for NodeBB!:
@topspin Flarum suddenly got a lot of votes
At least Discourse didn't win...
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@JBert said in Vote for NodeBB!:
@loopback0 said in Vote for NodeBB!:
@loopback0 said in Vote for NodeBB!:
@topspin Flarum suddenly got a lot of votes
At least Discourse didn't win...
Didn’t win twice