Minor units of volume WTF
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Okay, so we all (well, quite a few of us) know that pints are the right size in the UK and some weird stingy short measurement in the US. (A UK pint is 20 fl oz, a US one is 16.) But that's not the WTF. The WTF is that in the UK one pint (20 fl oz) is 568 ml, but in the US (according to the labels on bottles), 20 fl oz is 591 ml.
So water is a different density over here?
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The only things that are a different density over here are the politicians.
And, if you look here: http://www.metas.ch/en/scales/systemus.html, you'll note that a UK fluid oz is not the same as a US fluid oz. Apparently, we super-size everything.
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TRWTF, of course, is the continued use of imperial measurements by the US. Are they not the only ones who still use it still?
As no one else uses it, I guess they are free to make them whatever they like!
On a not unrelated matter, I think that we here in Australia should make our own measurement system. As it seems that every area of water is measured in numbers of Sydney Harbours it could fill(or could fill it), we have the obvious measurement for fluid volume.
Anyone want to by me a picoSydHarb of beer?
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No, the UK still uses pints for beer and the like in pubs, and for milk (sometimes).
Thanks for the comprehensive guide. The US is even more WTFy than I thought. Is ice cream in dry or wet pints? What about something like goose fat (after Christmas!) which is liquid in a warm room but solid in the fridge? Having two units of volume called the same thing, but different sizes, has WTF written all over it.
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Apparently we're one of not many countries that tend to have pints of beer, which is quite a large drink. Though it is only draught beer and cider that are sold in pints, everything else has to be sold in metric units, but that doesn't stop dairies, for example, selling '568 ml - 1 pint' of milk. But draught beer has to be sold in pints or half-pints by law, though a 'pint' (or half) is allowed to be up to 10% short, and with pint-to-rim glasses, the head means it can be. And yards of ale, 3 pints, are fine to sell.
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[quote user="m0ffx"]Apparently we're one of not many countries that tend to have pints of beer, which is quite a large drink. < snip >
[/quote]No it isn't. Beer was sold in quarts in the past. That's quite large...
Mmmm... Beer...
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The real WTF is not using metric.
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The real WTF is metric. I mean, a measurement system that's logical and easy to understand?
What's wrong with a system that's based on the length of your foot, or how far an army can march in a day, or how much a man can lift before he collapses?
Yours,
Pint-drinker :)
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[quote user="Joe Luser"]
[quote user="m0ffx"]Apparently we're one of
not many countries that tend to have pints of beer, which is quite a
large drink. < snip >
[/quote]No it isn't. Beer was sold in quarts in the past. That's quite large...
[/quote]The real WTF is that you guys have never heard of a stein!
And
I was in a bar in Valladolid with some friends last summer and they had
double-steins. None of us wanted more than one!
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You realize it's not really that easy to just up and change an entire countries measurement system. Believe it or not, Metric is taught in our schools and just about everything on the store shelves is labeled in both. America is switching over, just very slowly.
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@Isuwen said:
America is switching over, just very slowly.
Australia is still switching too... Just ask anyone older than about 45 like my mum. She'll tell you how to convert measurement's of Km into Miles, and the speed you are travelling at to mph, then how to calculate the time left in a jouney based on that (the long version of just calculating the time in km/hr).
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[quote user="Joe Luser"]
[quote user="m0ffx"]Apparently we're one of not many countries that tend to have pints of beer, which is quite a large drink. < snip >
[/quote]No it isn't. Beer was sold in quarts in the past. That's quite large...
Mmmm... Beer...
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Yeah. I was a bartender in college -- we used 16 oz pint glasses as small beers and 24 oz glasses for large. In my experience, pints are the smallest size draughts available in most bars (in the US). Unless you go to a smaller old-man-type dive that sells 10 oz glasses for < $1.00.
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[quote user="Bob Janova"]
No, the UK still uses pints for beer and the like in pubs, and for milk (sometimes).
Thanks for the comprehensive guide. The US is even more WTFy than I thought. Is ice cream in dry or wet pints? What about something like goose fat (after Christmas!) which is liquid in a warm room but solid in the fridge? Having two units of volume called the same thing, but different sizes, has WTF written all over it.
[/quote]I believe ice cream is sold by the 'nominal pint': it says "one pint", but the actual amount sold is measured in ounces. Goose fat is measured by the liquid pint, or by the ounce. Dry pints are not used very often, and are only for pourable solids like wheat or rice.
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We (in America) also have three different weight systems, depending on what you are weighing: avoirdupois (for food and most other things), apothecaries' weight (for drugs) and troy weight (for precious metals). (And others like carat weight for diamonds.)
Which weighs more, a pound of feathers or a pound of gold? A pound of feathers at 454 grams. A pound of gold is 12 troy ounces, 373 grams.
Which weighs more, an ounce of feathers or an ounce of gold? The troy ounce of gold weighs more than the avoirdupois ounce of feathers.
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American distilleries (spirits manufacturers) switched over to metric measurements for some sizes when they discovered that they could replace the traditional "fifth" (one-fifth of a gallon; four-fifths of a quart) with a 750-ml size and sell it at the same price.
They still sell a (U.S.) quart size, because a liter size would be bigger.
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[quote user="newfweiler"]
We (in America) also have three different weight systems, depending on what you are weighing: avoirdupois (for food and most other things), apothecaries' weight (for drugs) and troy weight (for precious metals). (And others like carat weight for diamonds.)
[/quote]I've never seen apothecaries' weight used. Medicines sold by weight are [i]always[/i] measured by milligrams of active ingredient. Medicines sold by volume are [i]always[/i] sold by multiples of the dose size, which is measured in fractional tablespoons or fractional teaspoons. Bulk sales of liquid medicines are [i]always[/i] in metric.
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[quote user="Isuwen"] America is switching over, just very slowly.
[/quote]Just ask NASA!
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[quote user="Carnildo"][quote user="newfweiler"]
We (in America) also have three different weight systems, depending on what you are weighing: avoirdupois (for food and most other things), apothecaries' weight (for drugs) and troy weight (for precious metals). (And others like carat weight for diamonds.)
[/quote]I've never seen apothecaries' weight used. Medicines sold by weight are [i]always[/i] measured by milligrams of active ingredient. Medicines sold by volume are [i]always[/i] sold by multiples of the dose size, which is measured in fractional tablespoons or fractional teaspoons. Bulk sales of liquid medicines are [i]always[/i] in metric.[/quote]
You've never taken a 5 grain tablet of aspirin? Or a 1-1/4 grain tablet of St. Joseph's Aspirin for Children? Take a look on your aspirin bottle -- I've got one right here ... hmmm ... you're right, they've changed. 5 grains is now 325 mg. OK, I guess I'm old.
I wonder when they'll start selling diamonds by the milligram.
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https://old.reddit.com/r/snowrunner/comments/11f0fd4/psa_if_your_metric_system_setting_is_set_to/
If you don't want to get reddit on you:
There's this Snowrunner game which just now got a new DLC. There's water towers that you would use to hold water and then deal with forest fires. But they currently don't work at all (they have 0 capacity) if you have set your measurement units to miles and gallons. Changing to metric avoids the bug
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Set the game to be broken and the game becomes broken
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@kazitor uh huh, sure, but what else are you going to do when you exit metric territory, keep using it?
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@newfweiler said in Minor units of volume WTF:
I've never seen apothecaries' weight used.
I have. I used to have such a scale, and used it from time to time. Not for anything apothecaretical, but, use.
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@kazitor said in Minor units of volume WTF:
Set the game to be broken and the game becomes broken
We think of them as freedom or landing on the moon units around these parts.
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@DogsB said in Minor units of volume WTF:
We think of them as freedom or landing on the moon units around these parts.
We think of them as crashing into Mars units around here.
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@Gurth said in Minor units of volume WTF:
@DogsB said in Minor units of volume WTF:
landing on the moon units
We don't need to debate something that didn't happen
** DogsB exit stage left **
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@DogsB said in Minor units of volume WTF:
@Gurth said in Minor units of volume WTF:
@DogsB said in Minor units of volume WTF:
landing on the moon units
We don't need to debate something that didn't happen
** DogsB exit stage left **
They couldn’t have built those amazing sound stage replicas with the metric system
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Take that understandable metrics!
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@DogsB said in Minor units of volume WTF:
Take that understandable metrics!
About 75 jubblies, then?
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@Gribnit said in Minor units of volume WTF:
@kazitor uh huh, sure, but what else are you going to do when you exit metric territory, keep using it?
I can get pretty unashamedly SImperialist.
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@DogsB said in Minor units of volume WTF:
Take that understandable metrics!
More understandable than football fields.
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@Gustav Is that measured in original British Mini Coopers, or modern German Mini Coopers?
There is a significant difference
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@LordOfThePigs looking at the picture? Yes.
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@DogsB said in Minor units of volume WTF:
Take that understandable metrics!
Filming of The Alabaman Job not going quite to plan then?
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@LordOfThePigs said in Minor units of volume WTF:
@Gustav Is that measured in original British Mini Coopers, or modern German Mini Coopers?
There is a significant difference
I can tell this is an important subject for you, @LordOfThePigs.
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@LordOfThePigs said in Minor units of volume WTF:
@Gustav Is that measured in original British Mini Coopers, or modern German Mini Coopers?
There is a significant difference
No, no, it's talking about small barrel-makers.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Minor units of volume WTF:
small barrel-makers.
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And for those asking in advance, the metric used is total length, not a specific part of the gator's body.
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What's that in metric alligators?
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@Watson 1 American alligator ≈ 0.73 metric alligators
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@DogsB said in Minor units of volume WTF:
2023 CM is estimated to be as much as 320 meters
2023 cm != 320 m.
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@HardwareGeek You're confusing CM with cm. CM is bigger.
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@Zecc said in Minor units of volume WTF:
@HardwareGeek You're confusing CM with cm. CM is bigger.
That’s what she said.
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@LordOfThePigs said in Minor units of volume WTF:
@Gustav Is that measured in original British Mini Coopers, or modern German Mini Coopers?
There is a significant difference
You waited six years between posts just to show up with "Look, I have the best possible username for this post"?
Well done!
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@Zecc said in Minor units of volume WTF:
@HardwareGeek You're confusing CM with cm. CM is bigger.
Because your
CM
is actaully Cyrillic forST
?
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@LaoC said in Minor units of volume WTF:
@Gribnit said in Minor units of volume WTF:
@kazitor uh huh, sure, but what else are you going to do when you exit metric territory, keep using it?
I can get pretty unashamedly SImperialist.
But those aren't kilometers down there. Those are miles. Or possibly hectares. (engine cuts out)
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