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@Watson said in In other news today...:
@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@Watson said in In other news today...:
@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
So why does the legislature need to get involved at all? If this is really so good, companies will adapt it on their own and as companies switch and attract the best talent (one of the listed pros of the plan is bringing employees back to the state and the workforce) their competitors will adopt it as well.
So why did the legislature get involved at all in setting the 40-hour week in the first place?
Unions and the politicians they buy.
I'd've thought the companies would have deeper pockets and be able to outbid unions in the politician market.
Most companies don't employ mafia methods though.
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Deeper pockets yes, but a union is a hell of a lot more voters than a few heads of companies and at the end of the day, votes are what matters.
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@Watson said in In other news today...:
So why did the legislature get involved at all in setting the 40-hour week in the first place?
They shouldn't have.
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@Watson Only the biggest of corporations; small businesses are SOL.
US labor unions collect about $10B in dues annually. This is minuscule compared to the $2T of corporate profits, but the unions don't have to worry about capex, paying shareholders, maintaining inventory, corporate taxes, etc. Anything above opex is free to be used on promoting their own interests, and only about 1/3 of that $10B is used directly for the unions' nominal purpose (representing workers in labor negotiations). Lop off a bunch for exorbitant executive salaries, and you're still left with some pretty deep pockets.
Business, OTOH, generally have to provide some sort of return to their owners, shareholders, or other investors. That leaves a much smaller percentage of that profit available for buying politicians, and businesses tend to be more restricted in their allowed political activities. And small businesses are at a definite disadvantage compared to big corporations, who may not have the same political agenda. Businesses smaller than about 100 employees, which is >95% of businesses in the US, tend to generate so little profit for their owners that one is left wondering why anyone would start a new business.
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@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
@Watson said in In other news today...:
So why did the legislature get involved at all in setting the 40-hour week in the first place?
They shouldn't have.
There are many things FDR shouldn't have done.
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@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
Deeper pockets yes, but a union is a hell of a lot more voters than a few heads of companies and at the end of the day, votes are what matters.
So you're saying a politician's entry into office is the result of a majority vote? Well, we can't have that, can we?
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Yes, it is a problem that our elected officials only care about elections. One of the reasons that I advocate for maximum terms on all of congress, to hopefully reduce the sole drive for these officials to only get re-elected.
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@Karla said in In other news today...:
@JBert said in In other news today...:
If you feel that you need some time away from family and friends, this might be the job for you:
Deal breaker:
Workers will be living in conditions that include limited power, no running water or internet access.
I'll take the... no running water option, please.
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Oh? That wasn't an exclusive "or"?
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
The other amusing thing happened at the end of a day. Most people had left. Colleague had waited so he could print out a pile of transparencies on the shared local printer. However, I managed to sneak in a print job just before him. Double sided and with auto-stapling. Long story short: reading a 15 page research
papertransparency on double-sided printed transparencies is kinda difficult. I was somewhat surprised that the printer managed to put a staple through that, though.Oh yeah, I had forgotten about the race between the printer and computer to feed the right paper (or transparencies, but I remember doing that when printing e.g. cover pages on coloured paper or similar) and send the print job before someone else could submit another one. Or yelling in the corridor "wait a moment before printing anything!"
Those were
goodbad days.
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@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
So why does the legislature need to get involved at all?
Quite apart from why they set hours in the first place (except for state employees), the quality of bosses varies very much from place to place. In some, the bosses tend towards the “as long as the work gets done and done well, the exact hours worked are unimportant”, and in others “if you're not having me stand right over your shoulder, how do I know you're working at all?!” dominates. For some reason, the former usually gets better productivity, but it is the latter type that need legislation (and sometimes even prosecution) to shift from their slave-driver attitudes.
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@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
Yes, it is a problem that our elected officials only care about elections.
That's what you get when you have an election every two years.
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@dcon said in In other news today...:
For... context, I guess, though that's not quite the appropriate word, France has a 35 hours workweek since 2000 or so (can't remember the exact date, though I remember the government who put that in place, so all I can say for sure is "between 1998 and 2002").
It was hugely contentious when it came about, and opened endless cans of worms because all industries and sectors already had their special rules which had to be adapted, but 20 years later no one in France is even talking about it anymore (and we are in full presidential campaign, so if anyone was talking about it, they'd be talking now). Maybe more relevant, across the years I've seen various studies trying to gauge the impact of that and there is no clear and obvious picture as to whether it made France more, or less, productive.
AFAIK, it's usually implemented in either of two ways: for jobs that are "on the clock" (flipping burgers), you just have less hours (duh). For most office jobs or similar, the work hours have stayed the same, but you have an additional number of paid holidays (called "RTT" for "réduction du temps de travail"). It's a pain managing those as every company has a different number of them (something between 5 and 20 per year, I'd say, and it sometimes depends on your job in the company) and more importantly different rules about them (whether you can take several of them at once, or put them in time banks, or whether the employer can force you to take some on specific days etc.).
(ETA: in my company, these days used to be split in 2, with half being usable whenever the employee wanted (or rather, following the same rules as normal holidays) and the other half being decided by the employer (usually these were the same for everyone (next to a bank holiday) so that, in effect, they could close the whole office). It's long gone, they are now more or less regular holidays, except that in our time sheet system we still have the two categories. No one cares about those, but they still exist, in name at least.)
There's definitely an additional cost to companies to manage that, but as I said everyone is used to it now and nobody wants to change back.
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@remi said in In other news today...:
less hours
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@topspin
I never properly learnt that rule.
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@remi said in In other news today...:
@topspin
I never properly learnt that rule.Less rules to worry about is more better.
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
@remi said in In other news today...:
@topspin
I never properly learnt that rule.Less rules to worry about is more betterer.
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Never too late to learn correct -ry, except when the unwashed masses have declared it obsolete at which point full reclamation mode should be engaged.
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@Arantor OK, OK, I'll learn to use
fewer
.You know, I couldn't care fewer about all this.
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@remi A quick primer on discrete versus continuous quantities:
Discrete absolute positive: many
Discrete absolute negative: few
Discrete comparative positive: more
Discrete comparative negative: fewer
Discrete superlative positive: most
Discrete superlative negative: fewestContinuous absolute positive: much
Continuous absolute negative: little
Continuous comparative positive more
Continuous comparative negative: less
Continuous superlative positive: most
Continuous superlative negative: leastThe thing that seems to mess people up is that more/most are used for both the discrete and continuous senses, and this influence carries over into their negative counterparts. That, and the sometimes confusing situation of measuring things that can be described in either discrete or continuous quantities using different terms, such as less money vs fewer dollars.
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@da-Doctah Plus of course that other languages may not carry the distinction at all.
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@PleegWat Or that sometimes use the exact same word for both "more" and "less."
plus
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Warning: images with blood
https://nypost.com/2022/04/12/nypd-investigating-possible-explosion-in-brooklyn-subway-station/
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@remi said in In other news today...:
@PleegWat Or that sometimes use the exact same word for both "more" and "less."
plus
What's nonplussing here is that work hours are only discrete on the timesheet in the first place.
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@djls45 said in In other news today...:
Warning: images with blood
https://nypost.com/2022/04/12/nypd-investigating-possible-explosion-in-brooklyn-subway-station/
If you object less to blood than c*y/p*e,
This is awful news. Not to pass a value judgement on the events - that's its own deal - but this is in itself really awful reportage. The assembler of the piece has gathered so lazily and contextualized so poorly that I am now unsure whether New York even has subways.
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@HardwareGeek also Harding. It took a lot to eclipse him in his field... never thought I'd see it happen.
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@Gribnit said in In other news today...:
This is awful news. Not to pass a value judgement on the events - that's its own deal - but this is in itself really awful reportage. The assembler of the piece has gathered so lazily and contextualized so poorly that I am now unsure whether New York even has subways.
I don't know what kind of context you want to see in a breaking news report. This article has been updated since I first saw it, and I expect it will change further with more information.
I do agree that the captions for the photos don't seem to match their contents, but I'm not sure that's the fault of the article's author(s).
And I'm not sure how many people would understand the term "straphangers." It seems to be jargon specific to certain kinds of public mass transportation which exists only in some of the larger cities in the USA.
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@remi said in In other news today...:
there is no clear and obvious picture as to whether it made France more, or less, productive.
It's , so it couldn't really become less.
Filed under: Nationalistic trolling thread is
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@djls45 said in In other news today...:
And I'm not sure how many people would understand the term "straphangers." It seems to be jargon specific to certain kinds of public mass transportation which exists only in some of the larger cities in the USA.
Is there any more to it beyond "people who commute using public transit"?
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@hungrier AFAICT, it's specifically those who stand, "hanging" onto the "strap" loops that hang down from the ceiling of the train car for them. But it probably has expanded to include all public transit commuters.
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@djls45 Right, that's the literal meaning of the word. But I don't see any real distinction between people who stand and those who sit on public transit. They're all on the same bus/tram/subway train/etc, going to the same stops
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@hungrier said in In other news today...:
I don't see any real distinction between people who stand and those who sit on public transit.
Some people look for the slightest distinction to try to think themselves better and/or more virtuous than their fellow humans.
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@hungrier said in In other news today...:
@djls45 Right, that's the literal meaning of the word. But I don't see any real distinction between people who stand and those who sit on public transit. They're all on the same bus/tram/subway train/etc, going to the same stops
There isn't a difference. The way TFA is using the word (and the way the word is always used in practice) they mean "commuters."
They picked a more romanticized synonym than "commuters" because, well, because they wrote the article and you didn't.
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
@hungrier said in In other news today...:
I don't see any real distinction between people who stand and those who sit on public transit.
Some people look for the slightest distinction to try to think themselves better and/or more virtuous than their fellow humans.
Sensible people have that distinction as "not using public transport"
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
Basically, by time, I get paid 50% to take my mind off bullshit so I don’t go insane, 40% to do shit I don’t care about, and 10% to balance all that with being productive in things I do care about.
My numbers are even worse.
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@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
If this is really so good, companies will adapt it on their own
"Economically good" does not necessarily mean "good for "! He wants to micromanage people and waste their time in useless meetings. That's his joy of work.
Money? When it is the company's money, he gives a , but his salary / bonus etc. does not depend on that.
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
Some people look for the slightest distinction to try to think themselves better and/or more virtuous than their fellow humans.
Good thing we're not like them, eh?
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… it's been there since the beginning of course. Just somebody just realized it might be a problem.
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… note that of the two issues one is only-Windows (in the Windows-specific uninstaller) and the other is practically-only-Windows (other users generally can't create anything in parent directories of your home, but on Windows creating directories directly in C:\ is often allowed).
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@Bulb I thought Windows finally made writing to C:\ folder itself require elevation by default? Other folders vary but I thought root folder was now special.
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@Arantor No idea. I think it did not last time I created some project directory, but it's been some time as fortunately I've been using Linux even for work lately.
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
Just somebody just realized it might be a problem.
any authenticated user can place malicous
.dll
files which are loaded when running the Git for Windows uninstallerWhat kind of.... what piece of shit loads random
.dll
files from Temp at all? Just realized that, yes? Goddamnit, another Carrington event can't come soon enough
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
@Bulb I thought Windows finally made writing to C:\ folder itself require elevation by default? Other folders vary but I thought root folder was now special.
In Win10, I can create a directory, but I can't create a file (just checked).
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in In other news today...:
@Bulb said in In other news today...:
Just somebody just realized it might be a problem.
any authenticated user can place malicous
.dll
files which are loaded when running the Git for Windows uninstallerWhat kind of.... what piece of shit loads random
.dll
files from Temp at all? Just realized that, yes? Goddamnit, another Carrington event can't come soon enoughAs far as I understand, it doesn't "load whatever random shit it finds in temp" per se, it's just another side-loading attack. The problem seems to be why the heck it runs from temp, i.e. why something with system privileges runs from a world-writable directory.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
from a world-writable directory.
It's not. I can't access anyone else's TEMP directory from my account.
As @Bulb mentioned, any authenticated user.
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In actual other news: cockatiel identified by its love of The Andy Griffith Show's tune:
If you want something to whistle to yourself:
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Apparently the ship took the message about fucking itself to heart.Russian flagship was promoted to the ranks of submarines. Guess the post of Ukraine has to update their newly released stamps already.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
@Carnage Well, Meta is working on that all by themselves. They decided that Apple's 30% cut was inappropriate for Meta goods.
So they're charging 47.5%.
They should charge at least 80%.
In a sane world, this whole ridiculous business of "there's going to be a
mbetaverse, because our marketing just dreamed it into existence" would be guaranteed to fail. But since we're not in that world, everything they can do to make this the failure that it should be helps.Filed under: stop trying to make Fetch happen
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
there's going to be a mbetaverse
You mean like that second life thing last decade? Does that still exist?