Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition
-
Boat drivers are as stupid as car drivers.
-
This one fit in a couple topics, but I'm going to put it here.
-
https://www.youtube.com/embed/hZNJLG2MdZI?start=90&end=102
1:30 Tesla has a lot of different features and quirks. You can make it make a farting noise every time you use your blinkers.
-
@HardwareGeek said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
Boat drivers are as stupid as car drivers.
By and large, though, a car captain is stupider than a boat captain.
-
-
-
How the hell...
-
@blek said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
How the hell...
If I were to guess, a parked car turned out into the street in front on that car that swerved way too hard and lost control and ended up hugging a pole.
-
-
@BernieTheBernie Always a possibility...
-
-
https://youtu.be/C-zeSEOanvI?t=117
Nice embed job
-
@TimeBandit Big bank account; tiny IQ.
-
@TimeBandit said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
Nice embed job
I think that youtube has been having server cooties lately and shit just times out.
-
-
@TimeBandit There's a video from the owner of the car that got hit too - evidently, it was not just a little bumper tap. The car was (possibly) totaled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYZY85YgL6g
And then Alex (the original YT post flagged the dude for copyright because he included part of the above video in his original video (since edited/reposted)
-
@dcon said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
And then Alex (the original YT post flagged the dude for copyright because he included part of the above video in his original video (since edited/reposted)
(1,156): error CS1026: ) expected
-
The problem is complex, as road design, poor standards of driving training, and inadequate enforcement of existing traffic laws all contribute to the death toll.
No mention of pedestrians being fucking retarded and just assuming the car will stop for them?
-
@Dragoon said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
No mention of pedestrians being fucking retarded and just assuming the car will stop for them?
I mean, when I have a green light I walk. While I generally assume everyone's a retard who can't drive, having to watch out for soccer moms in suburban tanks not to roll over you gets old fast.
-
@Dragoon said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
No mention of pedestrians being fucking retarded and just assuming the car will stop for them?
How do you explain to a small child that, just because all the other cars in the neighborhood stop for them, this particular one driven by Karen the Instagramming Soccermom from Outoftownsville will mow them down?
-
@dkf just like that, sounds okay. Arbitrary danger.
-
@dkf said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@Dragoon said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
No mention of pedestrians being fucking retarded and just assuming the car will stop for them?
How do you explain to a small child that, just because all the other cars in the neighborhood stop for them, this particular one driven by Karen the Instagramming Soccermom from Outoftownsville will mow them down?
I train the local kids by driving at them now and again. Keeps everyone on their toes.
-
@TimeBandit said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
Nice embed job
Don't know if this was the case when you posted, but it's saying it is age-restricted and only available on YouTube after signing in.
-
@Zecc I don't think it was before, as I saw it on my work computer (not logged into YT). But it was probably doing the intermittent thing where youtube embeds sometimes don't
-
@hungrier It does say it's age restricted, but it's embedding for me, maybe because I'm logged in in other tabs (or maybe because their API is dumb).
-
@HardwareGeek That's what I see now as well. It's embedded and the preview shows, but when I try to play it, it gives the "login to see this age restricted content" message. Yesterday, I don't recall if it embedded properly, but I was able to see the video without logging in
-
@hungrier said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@HardwareGeek That's what I see now as well. It's embedded and the preview shows, but when I try to play it, it gives the "login to see this age restricted content" message. Yesterday, I don't recall if it embedded properly, but I was able to see the video without logging in
I'm logged in and it embeds but doesn't play.
-
@hungrier As a user not attempting to view the content, I see nothing. This does not provide any information about whether the embed succeeded.
-
@loopback0 Ah, yes. Can repro.
-
Ah, excellent embed.
-
@HardwareGeek Who says GTA and NFS have no effect on one's driving?
-
@djls45 I don't think you can reach 209 virtual km/h in GTA. Maybe some new MP stuff? I haven't checked V in a while.
-
@Applied-Mediocrity Yeah, I wouldn't know either. I've never played any GTA.
-
@HardwareGeek said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
Ah, excellent embed.
It's because you left the chrome "selected text" crud on the end of the URL.
-
@boomzilla said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
chrome "selected text" crud
I hate that stuff mangling my links. It's as bad as the facebook/amazon referrer crap.
-
Google recommended me this article:
Holly Thompson called into our Operations Safe Roads hotline expressing her concerns about this law.
She says, as a Lyft driver, she sees drivers of all ages who seem confused about the rules of the road.
“No one seems to know the rules of the road. I feel very unsafe. They don't pay attention. They don’t see you signaling. They will rush to a red light,” she told ABC15.
Uh, these issues aren't going to be solved by inconveniencing people by having them take tests more often....
-
@Tsaukpaetra said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
Uh, these issues aren't going to be solved by inconveniencing people by having them take tests more often....
The fix is to give enforcement more teeth. In particular, people who persistently can't drive well enough should get their license to drive revoked (would need to be approved by a court). Yes, that would cause them hardship, but if you don't properly punish those who are low-level hazards to everyone around them then you'll just get the driving standards you deserve. (There's always the likes of Uber and Lyft for essential travel. Or public transit. Or a pedal cycle.)
Driving when prohibited from doing so would be all about disobeying a court, and so needs to attract jail time, with no possibility of substituting with a fine.
-
@boomzilla said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
It's because you left the chrome
You bet your sweet #!(!$*% I did! FF all the way, baby!
-
@dkf said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
(There's always the likes of Uber and Lyft for essential travel. Or public transit. Or a pedal cycle.)
Tell me you've never visited the (western ⅔) USA without telling me you've never visited the (western ⅔) USA.
I fully agree with the rest of your post.
-
@djls45 There are some places in the western US that have decent–good public transit, like San Francisco. (It may be the only good thing about SF. At least it used to be pretty good 30-ish years ago, which was the last time I used it.)
In many suburbs and smaller cities, not so much. In the TX suburb I live in, the nearest public transit is something like a half-hour walk away. Where can you get on that transit? The city of which this is a suburb. Can I get to another suburb, or anywhere useful in this suburb? And I live in a suburb that borders directly on the big city. Transit doesn't even go to more distant suburbs at all.
As for Uber/Lyft, it's a reasonable, although somewhat expensive, way to get around — if you want to go somewhere midday or evening. If you need to get somewhere early morning — say, your opening shift, minimum wage job at a home improvement store (open at 06:00, so you have to be that at maybe 05:30) — it's going to be very expensive. When I had to take Lyft to surgery (because I wouldn't be able to drive home afterward) and had to be there at 06:30, it was over $50, one way. (The return trip midday was, I think, <$20.) It's neither cheap nor convenient at times that few Uber/Lyft drivers want to be driving.
This isn't to say that drivers who put others at excessive risk shouldn't be inconvenienced for their bad behavior. However, the inconvenience may be considerably greater than you realize.
-
@djls45 said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
Tell me you've never visited the (western ⅔) USA without telling me you've never visited the (western ⅔) USA.
Have been there. Knew exactly what I was saying.
-
@dkf said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
In particular, people who persistently can't drive well enough should get their license to drive revoked (would need to be approved by a court).
Around here certain number and severity of violations will get you revoked for a year; and it's just a magistrate (misdemeanour committee) ruling with option to appeal to court.
@dkf said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
Driving when prohibited from doing so would be all about disobeying a court, and so needs to attract jail time, with no possibility of substituting with a fine.
… is the part that does not work well here. First driving when prohibited is a violation of official order, so should land one jail time with probation period (and longer prohibition of driving) and second time is a violation of court order and they are under probation already, so they should get jail time. Still, there are (a few) people who violated prohibition of driving 17 times … either because courts continued to grant them probation past the point they shouldn't have, because they managed to violate it multiple times before the court ruled on the first one, or combination of both.
-
@Tsaukpaetra said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
Uh, these issues aren't going to be solved by inconveniencing people by having them take tests more often....
Regular tests can (possibly, hypothetically...) help with old people who can't drive anymore but still do. Licenses don't have any expiration date here (it's slowly changing, but slightly old-ish licenses don't expire) and I know first-hand of many elderly relatives whose driving ability slowly declines. Some of them are smart-enough (resigned?) to voluntarily decide to cut on their driving at some point, though some still do short distances, which might not be much better. Some keep (kept...) driving far longer than it was safe for them (or for anyone else on the road!) to do, and I've got a couple of crazy stories about those -- thankfully it didn't end too badly, but still.
Of course, that can only work if the tests are proper tests (either a true medical check or a driving test), not just paperwork. And even then, if it shifts the burden of telling someone they can't drive anymore onto a doctor (who usually doesn't act as some sort of LEO!), it might not really work.
So I'm not sure if it really works in practice. But still, I can see where the idea comes from.
-
@remi said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
Regular tests can (possibly, hypothetically...) help with old people who can't drive anymore but still do.
My dad was still driving until about age 90. He had always been a very safe, defensive driver, but he became one of those old people who drive slowly because they know their reactions are slow, making themselves an obstacle to other drivers. Eventually, the DMV made him take a behind-the-wheel driving test, which he failed. Incidentally, I recall him saying it was the only actual driving test he ever had to take. I think he got his first driver's license in the Army, driving a deuce-and-a-half, and the Army didn't require actual, demonstrated knowledge. And that was good enough for a civilian license without a test after he got out of the Army.
-
-
@boomzilla
what have you done?
never, ever, ever let the beer go!
-
@HardwareGeek The scariest too-old-to-drive story I have happened to a cousin, and he wasn't the driver (though he's quite old himself). My cousin was cycling and and that too-old-driver was driving horribly slowly, which is good, though it still was somewhat fast (compared to a cyclist). More importantly, he totally failed to see my cousin coming from a side-road, which from his version (and everyone else's) was very visible -- he's been cycling for years and I would be extraordinarily surprised if he hadn't been very cautious. As you can guess, he hit my cousin straight-on, and it's only luck that my cousin's injuries were very minor, though he himself being not-that-young, it took him several months to get fully back on the saddle.
As my cousin was initially lying on the road and people gathering round, the old driver was still sitting in his car, somehow completely dumbfounded and only half-aware that anything had happened (well he has stopped, which is at least something). After a while, he (or maybe his wife?) offered to drive my cousin back home (since he was hurt, but not so badly), and my cousin almost immediately regretted it, as the driver was driving both horribly slowly (on roads) and fast (in villages), couldn't hold his side of the road, only braked by stomping on the pedal very hard...
Well he had a good excuse, he was almost deaf and blind...
The kicker is that there was some lengthy exchanges with the insurance and it turned out that he was actually driving a loaned car, because his usual one was... still at the mechanics from a previous accident! Talking with his family, they all wanted him to stop driving, but couldn't. They apparently even tried to hide his car keys but he found a way.
So yeah, getting him to pass a test (any test would have worked for him!) and get his license revoked would be a very good thing.
-
@remi My grandma (who is over 90) is in the same boat. Thankfully she knows she's not capable of driving. But it was a real challenge getting to that point; she's super independent and always has been.
-
@Benjamin-Hall My grandmother's second husband was like that, except the only place he ever drove was the golf club, which was just down the road from where he lived. The doctor was highly unwilling to ask for his license to be removed provided he didn't have any accidents.
-
@Benjamin-Hall I've seen both sides of that coin, I have other stories where the too-old-to-drive was my relative. And I know how hard it can be () for someone to realise they have to stop, but also to tell a loved-one to stop when they're still mentally sane -- after all, they might still be your father that you kind-of obeyed all your life and suddenly you are giving him an order!
The same happens for almost any part of growing old (which sucks, overall), but driving has the added risk of harming other people (if they get scammed and loose money, at the very worst they might harm themselves, but it's unlikely they'll harm someone else).
This is one situation where I'm OK with the might of the state stepping in and saying "no, you can't do that." This way everyone in the family can be compassionate with the elderly ("oh it's so unfair") while internally being relieved that it happened.