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@acrow said in In other news today...:
Russia if their courts suddenly stopped working
Russian courts work? It seems that they're basically rubber stamps for the oligarchs and bribe-factories for the workers.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in In other news today...:
@acrow said in In other news today...:
Russia if their courts suddenly stopped working
Russian courts work? It seems that they're basically rubber stamps for the oligarchs and bribe-factories for the workers.
: They work great!
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
@acrow But maybe they'd finally get the message and rise up.
They did that in 1917. Didn't end well.
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“It shows their extreme ability to adapt. They are very intelligent animals, and they will use what they have at their disposal to continue sheltering or walking around with protection.””
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@da-Doctah said in In other news today...:
@Bulb said in In other news today...:
@acrow But maybe they'd finally get the message and rise up.
They did that in 1917. Didn't end well.
It would have ended much better if it wasn't for the German agents staging second uprising using mostly foreign mercenaries.
There was first revolution in February that was stared by Russians that overthrew the tsar and formed a new government. But that government was still continuing the war, so Germans equipped and sent those red lunatics, staged second uprising, using the red army, in which they recruited many prisoners of war from other countries.
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Telegram wasn't fully encrypting by default. If anybody has a physical stock certificate, let me know if it transubstantiates into pigeon shit.
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@Bulb the peasants had literally no chance ever, otoh
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@DogsB We have nothing to fear from the octopi. Unless they stop dying after reproducing. Then we should preemptively start shipping all of our gold into the ocean.
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@Bulb nobody seems to know for sure whether my great?-grandfather was White Russian or Black Russian. Hadn't thought 'til your post that this uncertainty may indicate for Red vs either.
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@Gribnit said in In other news today...:
@Bulb nobody seems to know for sure whether my great?-grandfather was White Russian or Black Russian. Hadn't thought 'til your post that this uncertainty may indicate for Red vs either.
It may just be that I've never fully understood the concepts, but I don't know whether I'm White Irish or Black Irish. My father's plumbers' union back in the unenlightened 1960s once had a form for him with a space to report his race, and he wrote "Irish". When they were reviewing a big stack of forms at the union hall, one of them held up the paper and asked "is that Black Irish or White Irish"?
Dad shouted out "it's green Irish!"
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@da-Doctah said in In other news today...:
Dad shouted out "it's green Irish!"
Some of my ancestors were Protestants who seem to have left Northern Ireland rather abruptly. I don't know the circumstances, but my Dad was definitely not green Irish. He used to wear orange on St. Patrick's Day.
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@Bulb I've read of an extensive support of all kinds of rebel movements by the Russian nobility of the time. It was a fashionable thing to do.
The mercenaries... You can't turn a state's direction with an external force that small. Merely remove the final pins holding it in place and in shape.
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
@Bulb I've read of an extensive support of all kinds of rebel movements by the Russian nobility of the time. It was a fashionable thing to do.
Just like now, just like now.
The mercenaries... You can't turn a state's direction with an external force that small. Merely remove the final pins holding it in place and in shape.
IIRC the communists were far from the strongest at the beginning of the coup, but there were several factions opposing each other and the communists managed to make most of the confusing situation.
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
IIRC the communists were far from the strongest at the beginning of the coup
There were also several communist factions. The Bolsheviks were reputedly the best organised even if not the largest.
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
@acrow said in In other news today...:
@Bulb I've read of an extensive support of all kinds of rebel movements by the Russian nobility of the time. It was a fashionable thing to do.
Just like now, just like now.
No arguments from me.
But naming the modern equivalent factions is maybe best left to the Garage.
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"The digital cooler screens at Walgreens made me watch an ad before it allowed me to know which door held the frozen pizzas," said someone on Twitter.
People are going to start breaking these things and who would prosecute them?
INB4 Evil Ideas Thread is...
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
"The digital cooler screens at Walgreens made me watch an ad before it allowed me to know which door held the frozen pizzas," said someone on Twitter.
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
People are going to start breaking these things and who would prosecute them?
Just leave them open / insert a pizza in the door frame to jam them open. The next customer will thank you.
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@topspin More space for ads?
It's not like that particular industry ever cared about being user friendly....
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
"The digital cooler screens at Walgreens made me watch an ad before it allowed me to know which door held the frozen pizzas," said someone on Twitter.
People are going to start breaking these things and who would prosecute them?
INB4 Evil Ideas Thread is...
I bet most people won't look at the screens and just open the doors instead. This is the most brainless idea I've seen in a while. This is almost as good as Amazon bringing back buttons on the kindles. Wouldn't call them buttons though. Haptic feedback response areas or some such bull shit. Can't wait to see what they call glass.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
buttons on the kindles. Wouldn't call them buttons though. Haptic feedback response areas or some such bull shit. Can't wait to see what they call glass.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
Pie Day
As a ISO 8601 adherent, I find that the closest to Pi day I can get is something like --06-03 or --07-04. On the upside, there are consequently multiple valid Pi days. On the downside, the approximation kinda sucks.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
More to-the-point might be, the most popular approximation by state. Always hoping Alabama will move from 4 to 3.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
Not sure what the problem is. It's pie, bring it all to me.
Haggis is a pie.
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Article: you can train your model cheaper and still get good results using our method.
My takeaway: if you figure out your tuning using 7% of the data, and you get broadly the same results with the extra 93% data, doesn’t that mean you could have just used the smaller model in the first place, thus saving everyone time, money and energy because anything else is just applied statistical bias?
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@Arantor From what I guess based on TFA, they still use the full data in the end. They just do a pre-pass with a smaller model and less data. They then map the smaller model into the full one and train that with the full data.
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@cvi huh. There seems to be a self-fulfilling bit in there, but I assume there were also controls.
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
They just do a pre-pass with a smaller model and less data. They then map the smaller model into the full one and train that with the full data.
Kind of sounds like an obvious thing to do, in hindsight. Loosely reminds me of multi-grid methods.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
My takeaway: if you figure out your tuning using 7% of the data, and you get broadly the same results with the extra 93% data, doesn’t that mean you could have just used the smaller model in the first place, thus saving everyone time, money and energy because anything else is just applied statistical bias?
Ultimately, yes. But you don't do that when you're validating your new training method. Instead, you do things like training with a subset and then measuring the size of the changes due to the rest of the training data. It takes a long time to be sure that you don't need to do all that extra work.
I think it's still far too expensive in compute time.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
Kind of sounds like an obvious thing to do, in hindsight. Loosely reminds me of multi-grid methods.
Yeah, same.
I know that people have tried that in the past (which is partially why I'm guessing at what I said without reading the actual paper). IIRC the main problem is that it's not obvious how you translate between different networks.
I know that people have also thrown in fully-trained networks into their own taped-together frankennetworks. The idea being that starting with something trained is likely closer to what you want already, or at least not worse than starting from a random point.
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
I think it's still far too expensive in compute time.
I'm guessing you're also not a fan of the idea of training networks in the etherum virtual machine then?
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
@dkf said in In other news today...:
I think it's still far too expensive in compute time.
I'm guessing you're also not a fan of the idea of training networks in the etherum virtual machine then?
Can we make the path cost estimation bits be based on actual proof of work? Oooh ooh and verification-cost based SpaghettiSort - O(1) is pretty good...
Then again, these sorts of primitive, scrutable, non-matrix operations may be better used to optimize lesser programs.
If we wanted to see if we could make peanolate to mix with choco butter, could try putting a model in place of the hash.
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
Pie Day
As a ISO 8601 adherent, I find that the closest to Pi day I can get is something like --06-03 or --07-04. On the upside, there are consequently multiple valid Pi days. On the downside, the approximation kinda sucks.
How about July 22nd? (22/7 ≈ 3.142857)
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
@cvi said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
Pie Day
As a ISO 8601 adherent, I find that the closest to Pi day I can get is something like --06-03 or --07-04. On the upside, there are consequently multiple valid Pi days. On the downside, the approximation kinda sucks.
How about July 22nd? (22/7 ≈ 3.142857)
This would work, except for being based on being wrong, wrong, wrong.
If anyone could figure out what day of the year we'd traveled pi radians around the Sun, we could use that, but the math is probably too hard.
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@PleegWat said in In other news today...:
@Gribnit said in In other news today...:
pi radians
That's a half circle. So 1 July.
Papist!
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@DogsB Hopefully NewPipe will keep updating
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@cvi yes, that's exactly it, but I'm making the cheap joke about 'if you get the right results with a tiny amount of the data and environmental cost, why not just stop there?'
Also a side take on the general value of ML as bias automation.
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
I think it's still far too expensive in compute time.
I'd honestly push for a 100% saving in compute time for most of the applications using it currently. So much more environmentally friendly; not only the reduced carbon cost but so much less methane in the air too from the reduced bovine excreta production.
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@MrL said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
buttons on the kindles. Wouldn't call them buttons though. Haptic feedback response areas or some such bull shit. Can't wait to see what they call glass.
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Originally they had Kindles with physical buttons, then they moved to touch only, and later brought in a worst-of-both-worlds solution: a capacitive touch area on the bezel
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
"The digital cooler screens at Walgreens made me watch an ad before it allowed me to know which door held the frozen pizzas," said someone on Twitter.
And just like a teenager, shoppers now stand in front of the freezer with the door open while they decide what they want. In other news, Walgreens announces that it's electricity usage has skyrocketed.
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@da-Doctah said in In other news today...:
@Gribnit said in In other news today...:
@Bulb nobody seems to know for sure whether my great?-grandfather was White Russian or Black Russian. Hadn't thought 'til your post that this uncertainty may indicate for Red vs either.
It may just be that I've never fully understood the concepts, but I don't know whether I'm White Irish or Black Irish. My father's plumbers' union back in the unenlightened 1960s once had a form for him with a space to report his race, and he wrote "Irish". When they were reviewing a big stack of forms at the union hall, one of them held up the paper and asked "is that Black Irish or White Irish"?
Dad shouted out "it's green Irish!"
In the demographics our system collects, those would all be Black
ofor White race.And choose ethnicity separately, LatinX or Not LatinX.
Same thing as Hispanics. They are 1 or more races and LatinX.
Most Hispanics I know, would consider that their race.The genetics works out really funny with my big kids.
Dad's Dad: white with a pinch of a lot of other things
Dad's Mom: white Hispanic (Puerto Rican )
Dad: White HispanicMom's Dad: black Hispanic (Dominican)
Mom's Mom: black Hispanic (Dominican)
Mom: Black HispanicThe girls: White Hispanic
The boys: They fall somewhere between Black and White Hispanic.
My 8 yo doesn't have have any Black or Dominican blood but her life is surrounded by both Blacks and Dominicans that love her.
My husband's ancestry included (mostly European, Taino-Native, and some African).
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@Karla said in In other news today...:
@da-Doctah said in In other news today...:
@Gribnit said in In other news today...:
@Bulb nobody seems to know for sure whether my great?-grandfather was White Russian or Black Russian. Hadn't thought 'til your post that this uncertainty may indicate for Red vs either.
It may just be that I've never fully understood the concepts, but I don't know whether I'm White Irish or Black Irish. My father's plumbers' union back in the unenlightened 1960s once had a form for him with a space to report his race, and he wrote "Irish". When they were reviewing a big stack of forms at the union hall, one of them held up the paper and asked "is that Black Irish or White Irish"?
Dad shouted out "it's green Irish!"
In the demographics our system collects, those would all be Black of White race.
And choose ethnicity separately, LatinX or Not LatinX.
Same thing as Hispanics. They are 1 or more races and LatinX.
Most Hispanics I know, would consider that their race.The genetics works out really funny with my big kids.
Dad's Dad: white with a pinch of a lot of other things
Dad's Mom: white Hispanic (Puerto Rican )
Dad: White HispanicMom's Dad: black Hispanic (Dominican)
Mom's Mom: black Hispanic (Dominican)
Mom: Black HispanicThe girls: White Hispanic
The boys: They fall somewhere between Black and White Hispanic.
My 8 yo doesn't have have any Black or Dominican blood but her life is surrounded by both Blacks and Dominicans that love her.
My husband's ancestry included (mostly European, Taino-Native, and some African).
I love the scene in the movie "Soul Man" where C Thomas Howell asks Rae Dawn Chong how she feels about interracial relationships, prior to revealing that he's not actually black. Laughed out loud when I realized that when RDC is in a room all by herself there are four races present (her father is Irish-Canadian and Chinese, her mother black and Mexican).