A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted
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@dkf said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@Medinoc You could do an NFT to an archive of all NFTs…
Can you make an NFT to the blockchain it's contained in?
Or a self-referencing one?No, I don't know how it all works.
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@MrL said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
No, I don't know how it all works.
Doesn't stop anyone else it seems
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@Medinoc said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@DogsB 20 Terabytes??
How is there already so much NFT crap as to fill 20TB??Maybe they're tiff or raw files? I've got almost a terabyte of family photos in that format.
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@MrL said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@dkf said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@Medinoc You could do an NFT to an archive of all NFTs…
Can you make an NFT to the blockchain it's contained in?
Or a self-referencing one?No, I don't know how it all works.
Most of them are just URLs put into the blockchain to identify the thing so...yeah, sure.
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@boomzilla said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@MrL said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@dkf said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@Medinoc You could do an NFT to an archive of all NFTs…
Can you make an NFT to the blockchain it's contained in?
Or a self-referencing one?No, I don't know how it all works.
Most of them are just URLs put into the blockchain to identify the thing so...yeah, sure.
I wonder if that is to protect them legally. You can host links that point at something naughty but not the naughty itself. Kind of like magnet links. If hosting links becomes illegal how exactly are they going to take them down? It's not like you can unravel a blockchain. If they start editing the blockchain it defeats the purpose of blockchain. The more I think about this the stupider it becomes. Like how do they handle arbitration?
I admire the grift but this really needs to be thought out better. Especially the bit where they need a state with guns to back them up.
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@DogsB said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@boomzilla said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@MrL said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@dkf said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@Medinoc You could do an NFT to an archive of all NFTs…
Can you make an NFT to the blockchain it's contained in?
Or a self-referencing one?No, I don't know how it all works.
Most of them are just URLs put into the blockchain to identify the thing so...yeah, sure.
I wonder if that is to protect them legally.
I don't know what you mean. Protect whom? An NFT is just an entry on a blockchain that has a URL that can be traced to you (or your wallet or whatever) just like "owning" a bitcoin.
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@DogsB said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
I admire the grift but this really needs to be thought out better.
Seems to be working well as it stands on the assumption that it's only intended to get money out of people who don't know better.
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@boomzilla said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@DogsB said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@boomzilla said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@MrL said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@dkf said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@Medinoc You could do an NFT to an archive of all NFTs…
Can you make an NFT to the blockchain it's contained in?
Or a self-referencing one?No, I don't know how it all works.
Most of them are just URLs put into the blockchain to identify the thing so...yeah, sure.
I wonder if that is to protect them legally.
I don't know what you mean. Protect whom? An NFT is just an entry on a blockchain that has a URL that can be traced to you (or your wallet or whatever) just like "owning" a bitcoin.
From various sue-happy entities. It's just a URL instead of a binary blob. A link to Happy Birthday can be taken offline. Pulling binary out of the blockchain is a funnier problem.
*edit giving it more thought... nfts were hacked in weren't they? A link was probably all that can be done. Forget the posts. Brainfart.
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@Rhywden said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
Can this Tether thing implode already, please, and take all this stupid bullshit with it?
Seriously.
Would you prefer to invest in Dutch Tulip bulbs instead?
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@DogsB said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
Maybe they're tiff or raw files? I've got almost a terabyte of family photos in that format.
I think I've got about half a TB. I'd probably have about 2 if I'd ever finish scanning the rest of them.
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@DogsB said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
this really needs to be thought out better.
You think any of this involves thinking?
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@HardwareGeek oh, it involves a lot of thinking. In the same way 0x1x2x3x4x5x6x7x8x9 is a lot of multiplication. You can do a lot of it but have something cancel out the effect.
I’m certain a vast amount of time has been invested into thinking about NFT - No Fruitful Thoughts - but that doesn’t mean any of them were good or useful thoughts.
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@Arantor said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
0x1x2x3x4x5x6x7x8x9
E_INVALID_HEX_STRING
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@dcon typing the multiplication symbol on my iPad was more effort than I could be bothered to put in at the time.
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@Arantor said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
more effort than I could be bothered to put in
accepted
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@Zerosquare said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
: Couldn't you spend 10 seconds choosing the right encoding before taking a screenshot?!
Right encoding? This is art, you brute!
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https://www.clubnft.com/blog/the-trillion-byte-let-down
Fortunately, we can save you the trouble of downloading the entire torrent - all you need is about 10GB. Download the first 10GB of the torrent, plus the last block, and you can fill in all the rest with zeroes. In other words, it's empty; and no, Geoff did not actually download all the NFTs. Ironically, Geoff has archived all of the media articles about this and linked them on TheNFTBay's site, presumably to preserve an immutable record of the spread and success of his campaign - kinda like an NFT.
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sad hacker noises
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An upgrade of the dogecoin network on November 10th appeared to have caused an issue with network withdrawals, Binance said in a statement the next day. A “very small number of users” had been affected, they said, explaining that some previously failed dogecoin withdrawal transactions got reset after the update, and “we are kindly requesting those users to return the assets”.
It's doge. I'll let it slide.
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@DogsB said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
“we are kindly requesting those users to return the assets”
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@boomzilla said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
sad hacker noises
sad sasquatch hunter noises
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I've already got an eye on Japan. This has me worried.
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@DogsB said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
It's doge. I'll let it slide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFvkr6GBWLw
Might want to get that looked at...
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Oh noes.
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In the latest development of the NFT techno-financial trash fire none of us are allowed to look away from
The Metaflower
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@Applied-Mediocrity Second Life is going mainstream?
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@Arantor I can see how someone might want to commission a million billion triangle CAD model of a yacht, up with all the technical readouts, much like up to one step before ordering a real one. It would therefore legitimately cost a fortune. Then put it in a game to walk around it and stuff (and for other people be jealous about), because building and owning a real one based on the drawings would still cost many, many times more. Thousands of hours of workmanship by many people, including actual maritime engineers, would go into it, making sure if someone was ever to build one using the plans, it wouldn't capsize right away. If the designers then accept monopoly money for their work, that's their own lookout.
My issue here is that it's shit. Very little work went into it. There's very low, if any, artistic value. There's no practical value whatsoever. It's like that artist's shit in the jar thing, except that one was apparently meant as shock piece. Now that we're post-parody, everything is stupid like that and nothing makes sense anymore.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
it's shit. Very little work went into it. There's very low, if any, artistic value. There's no practical value whatsoever
Like basically every other NFT
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
It's like that artist's shit in the jar thing, except that one was apparently meant as shock piece.
I thought it was a comment about the cult of 'artistry', which glorifies art without looking at its actual value.
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@MrL said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@Applied-Mediocrity said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
It's like that artist's shit in the jar thing, except that one was apparently meant as shock piece.
I thought it was a comment about the cult of 'artistry', which glorifies art without looking at its actual value.
Right along with 4'33" and Malevich's Black Square, yes? I'm not convinced that it's an honest comment only. People whom the comment was directed at certainly haven't cared about it.
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@Applied-Mediocrity I was going for the cheap joke that this is Second Life reinvented with its weird inner-platform-effect-ish of producing an economy of makers and buyers trading virtual goods that they personally saw value in.
This whole NFT thing needs to Never Fucking Triumph already.
EDIT: ironically if it is meant artistically, it has some arguable merit; art should provoke a reaction in the consumer and not necessarily that “meant” by its creator. The fact NFTs provoke a reaction at all supports the thinking that it has some merit, if only as a statement of stupid.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@MrL said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@Applied-Mediocrity said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
It's like that artist's shit in the jar thing, except that one was apparently meant as shock piece.
I thought it was a comment about the cult of 'artistry', which glorifies art without looking at its actual value.
Right along with 4'33" and Malevich's Black Square, yes?
Possibly. The shit gig is more, eh, transparent.
I'm not convinced that it's an honest comment only. People whom the comment was directed at certainly haven't cared about it.
I think it's a perfect comment. You tell people that they are morons and they act awful, in response they act exactly like that and you get fame and money.
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@Arantor How cheap was the joke anyway? You should it, might be worth more tomorrow
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@Applied-Mediocrity yes, but is it art?
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@Arantor Of course it is!
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@Arantor said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@Applied-Mediocrity yes, but is it art?
Did someone say easy tart?
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@Zecc said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@Arantor said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@Applied-Mediocrity yes, but is it art?
Did someone say easy tart?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roO0tIpYk6Q
I guess it was inevitable, but still...
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"Schmott" contracts. Yes, nothing says "smart" like a program which lets stuff happen where any sane human would immediately say: "What? No!"
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Just consider for a moment what this is saying.
Following an Ethereum smart contract vulnerability, we will migrate to a new smart contract to keep the game safe and maintain its integrity.
The migration will create for you an exact copy of your legacy NFT, with the same traits and metadata. It will also lock your legacy NFT containing the vulnerability. All developers we spoke with agreed that it is the safest option to retrieve your NFTs.
Holders of Sheep and Wolves will be able to migrate their NFTs through the Wolf Game website by connecting their MetaMask wallet.Target Date for the Migration: Saturday, November 27
On the website, you will simply claim your NFT from the new, official collection. If your legacy NFT is currently staked: it will burn with the barn. If it is in your wallet: it will burn when you claim.It certainly sounds like this “permanently on the block chain for integrity” has some issues.
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Article @Rhywden linked to in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
By using the same token for both tokenIn and tokenOut, the hacker greatly inflated the price of the MONO token because the updating of the tokenOut overwrote the price update of the tokenIn.
Of course these morons have never heard of atomic transactions.
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Rampant Skittles inflation strikes the market:
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I see it's that time of the year again
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@blek Also the Binance desktop app just keeps getting worse with every update, now it won't even load charts, what the FUCK.
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@blek said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@blek Also the Binance desktop app just keeps getting worse with every update, now it won't even load charts, what the FUCK.
What are the odds that once it starts going back up that charts will work again?
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@dcon said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@blek said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@blek Also the Binance desktop app just keeps getting worse with every update, now it won't even load charts, what the FUCK.
What are the odds that once it starts going back up that charts will work again?
I wouldn't bet a wooden nickel against 100 packs of skittles that you're wrong.
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@dcon I don't think there's any malicious intent there - charts on the web version work just fine, and even in the desktop app I can see standing orders and current price. It's just the chart that won't load. I think it's just a bug.