In other news today...
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@topspin said in In other news today...:
@loopback0 can they order them to sell WhatsApp next, please?
They've already sold their souls to Satan; you'd think selling anything else would be trivial after that.
I heard that Satan sold his data to Facebook.
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@loopback0 In exchange for Zuckerberg's soul. No, maybe Sheryl Sandberg's. Zuckerberg doesn't have one.
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Meanwhile in Poland
https://usdaynews.com/celebrities/celebrity-death/artur-walus-walczak-death-cause/
Unfortunately, one of the participants of the PunchDown gala Artur Walczak died in the hospital at the age of 46. Artur “Waluś” Walczak fell to the ground after being knocked out in late October. Since then, he had been in a coma from his brain injury.
He had been hospitalized on October 22 after a fight at a slap fighting gala organized in one of Wrocław’s clubs. This method consists in hitting each other in the face of opposing players.
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@Gąska said in In other news today...:
slap fighting gala
Things that remind you of members thread is
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@Gąska said in In other news today...:
slap fighting gala
What you think it is:
What it actually is (by pure chance, I found a video with the actual guy mentioned):
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@hungrier what's up with the cheapo-Jesus commenting?
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@topspin He's a famous Youtube and Twitch streamer, and slap fighting aficionado
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Wow. I knew there were a lot of stupid sports out there, but this one takes being stupid all the way to 11.
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
Wow. I knew there were a lot of stupid sports out there, but this one takes being stupid all the way to 11.
Not significantly more stupid than most sports.
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Definitely the news of the day:
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@HardwareGeek the more I think of it the more sense it makes.
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@Gąska Better on a Delta flight than on TikTok, amirite?
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@Carnage said in In other news today...:
@cvi said in In other news today...:
Wow. I knew there were a lot of stupid sports out there, but this one takes being stupid all the way to 11.
Not significantly more stupid than most sports.
I know.
I was once challenged to invent a truly silly sport, and came up with what I called "cross-country bowling". You start on some country road with a lot of turns and hills, and each competitor rolls a ball down the road. The turn ends when the ball either stops or runs off the side of the road. The others all take their own turns, and then each repeats from wherever their ball ended up on the last turn. First one to get the ball to some designated finish line in a fixed number of throws wins.
Then I found essentially this same game actually being played in Ireland. Michael Palin became aware of it and showed it in one of his travel videos. I'm firmly convinced there is no conceivable sport so silly that someone hasn't actually made it a thing.
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@da-Doctah Quite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-ai0GGeRjs
For the uninitiated, they rolls cheese wheel down a hill and then chase after it in a race.
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@Gąska said in In other news today...:
@HardwareGeek the more I think of it the more sense it makes.
Have you considered thinking less about it?
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@da-Doctah I was about to tell you about playing it in Ireland but I see you already know.
In other news, and this is very important to remember
Read the small print regarding your extra-curricula activities.
From the comment section:
He made a bit of a hash taking this to court.
Well done sir.
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No idea what went wrong on The Register's side, but here's the title:
Feds charge two men with claiming ownership of others' songs to steal YouTube royalty payments
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@JBert said in In other news today...:
No idea what went wrong on The Register's side
The article really is published with a page title of
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Apple AirTags are a great tool - for car thieves.
See an expensive car on a parking lot? Stick the AirTag onto it. Wait for the owner to drive home. The AirTag will tell you where it is parked.
Now sneak in with appropriate tools (you know the exact model already...), and take the car away.
Article on heise.de in German:
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@BernieTheBernie
Englisch:
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@BernieTheBernie an easily available general-purpose tracker will be used for all the tracking stuff you see in movies?
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
@BernieTheBernie
Englisch:TFA said:
Thieves have no way to disable Apple's anti-tracking features that alert users when an unfamiliar nearby AirTag is tracking their location, but not all victims receive or act on the notification, or have an iPhone.
So you need an iPhone to find out if someone's tracking you with an AirTag??
: Nice car you got there, would be a shame if something happened to it!
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@ixvedeusi And even if you have an iphone, it takes some time to alert you. Because some trackers may happen to be close to you when other people tracking their crap are next to you. So, ..., likely enough time left for the thieves.
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So ... hyvää itsenäisyyspäivää.
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@cvi Status thread is
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@topspin Suomi, perkeleen vittupää, do you speak it?
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in In other news today...:
@topspin Suomi, perkeleen vittupää, do you speak it?
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
So ... hyvää itsenäisyyspäivää.
You're
5 days early4 weeks late.ITT: @Gąska forgot which month it is.
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https://blog.sesse.net/blog/tech/2021-12-05-16-41_leaving_mysql.html
tl:dr; ex-MySQL dev tells people not to use MySQL.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
https://blog.sesse.net/blog/tech/2021-12-05-16-41_leaving_mysql.html
tl:dr; ex-MySQL dev tells people not to use MySQL.
I've only worked with it once. We used it mostly because it was free and the docker worked with minimal tweaking. It appeared solid enough but the project for it was pretty small. I doubt it would grow to more than a gig in size. It didn't set my world alight but I would pick it over Oracle.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
https://blog.sesse.net/blog/tech/2021-12-05-16-41_leaving_mysql.html
tl:dr; ex-MySQL dev tells people not to use MySQL or MariaDB, and prefer Postgres.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
@Arantor said in In other news today...:
https://blog.sesse.net/blog/tech/2021-12-05-16-41_leaving_mysql.html
tl:dr; ex-MySQL dev tells people not to use MySQL.
I've only worked with it once. We used it mostly because it was free and the docker worked with minimal tweaking. It appeared solid enough but the project for it was pretty small. I doubt it would grow to more than a gig in size. It didn't set my world alight but I would pick it over Oracle.
I'd pick MariaDB over MySQL but for any reasonably sized database then Oracle all the way.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
@Arantor said in In other news today...:
https://blog.sesse.net/blog/tech/2021-12-05-16-41_leaving_mysql.html
tl:dr; ex-MySQL dev tells people not to use MySQL.
I've only worked with it once.
I was (Almost™ successfully) trying to get it's replication, the Galera Cluster, to work. Oh, the memories, the memories.
Well, it works, but out of the box it requires manual startup/recovery, and to get it properly running under orchestration, that has to be scripted. Which was PainInTheArse®.
We used it mostly because it was free and the docker worked with minimal tweaking. It appeared solid enough but the project for it was pretty small. I doubt it would grow to more than a gig in size.
It's solid enough. The main problem is the feature limitations.
Basically if you need complex queries, you are going to run into the limitations and should use PostgreSQL. While if you need raw performance without complex queries, some nosql probably has you covered much better. And if you kinda need both, PostgreSQL used to be slower, but that was 20 years ago and it's long since caught up.
It didn't set my world alight but I would pick it over Oracle.
It's also Oracle, so picking it over Oracle kind of makes no sense 😉.
@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
I'd pick MariaDB over MySQL but for any reasonably sized database then Oracle all the way.
I believe PostgreSQL has feature parity with Oracle, is saner in many aspects, and you don't have to pay expensive licenses.
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
@Arantor said in In other news today...:
https://blog.sesse.net/blog/tech/2021-12-05-16-41_leaving_mysql.html
tl:dr; ex-MySQL dev tells people not to use MySQL.
I've only worked with it once. We used it mostly because it was free and the docker worked with minimal tweaking. It appeared solid enough but the project for it was pretty small. I doubt it would grow to more than a gig in size. It didn't set my world alight but I would pick it over Oracle.
I'd pick MariaDB over MySQL but for any reasonably sized database then Oracle all the way.
Is that the famous "way to Perdition"?
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
It didn't set my world alight but I would pick it over Oracle.
It's also Oracle, so picking it over Oracle kind of makes no sense 😉.
As far as I can tell, there's exactly one sane reason for picking Oracle: you already have the data in an Oracle database.
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
Basically if you need complex queries, you are going to run into the limitations and should use PostgreSQL. While if you need raw performance without complex queries, some nosql probably has you covered much better.Yeah, basically MySQL used to cover the same use case that NoSQL do today. Of course, it's quite controversial to define which use case that is
And if you kinda need both, PostgreSQL used to be slower, but that was 20 years ago and it's long since caught up.
Seriously, the amount of progress in PostgreSQL is just insane. Especially compared to MySQL, which is... glacial.
I believe PostgreSQL has feature parity with Oracle, is saner in many aspects, and you don't have to pay expensive licenses.
Also, most people forget that for those who want to pay expensive licenses and be screwed by a giant cyberpunk-wannabe MegaCorporation, there is an option: IBM DB2.
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
you don't have to pay expensive licenses.
That was usually why the projects I worked on used it.
I suspect Oracle is like MacOs for me. I can't stand either of them. They're perfectly fine for 99.999% of people who use them. There's just something about them that doesn't gel right with me. I'm one of those people that get on with Linux distros though... so
@Bulb said in In other news today...:
It didn't set my world alight but I would pick it over Oracle.
It's also Oracle 😉.
They've been separate before I started working with a DB and I somehow use them interchangeably.
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in In other news today...:
Also, most people forget that for those who want to pay expensive licenses and be screwed by a giant cyperpunk-wannabe MegaCorporation, there is an option: IBM DB2.
Our company chose the MS-SQL route. Even for some new development that replaces older application using PostgreSQL. Because
- We have more devs experienced with the Visual Studio SQL tools than with other database tools (But VS-SQL looks like a to me—hey, it does not even come with tooling to keep track of database update scripts).
- Admins only wanted to maintain one kind of database—which won't be true, because the other important project is using PostgreSQL and will be using PostgreSQL and I think the architect has been persuaded not to consider switching just for sake of it as it works for them.
- When running it in Azure, it's not (or not much; checking the calculator) more expensive than the other options—but the original plan was to run it on-prem, the architect managed to persuade the director that when we already trust Microsoft with mail, documents and the business report that PowerBI makes from this database, it does not make sense to not trust them with the database too and it will make more sense to run the whole thing in Azure.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
@Bulb said in In other news today...:
you don't have to pay expensive licenses.
That was usually why the projects I worked on used it.
I suspect Oracle is like MacOs for me. I can't stand either of them. They're perfectly fine for 99.999% of people who use them. There's just something about them that doesn't gel right with me. I'm one of those people that get on with Linux distros though... so
That's for avoiding OracleDB. But in the last 10 years the only reason to pick MySQL instead of PostgreSQL besides backward compati(de)bility was knowledge a decade out of date.
@Bulb said in In other news today...:
It didn't set my world alight but I would pick it over Oracle.
It's also Oracle 😉.
They've been separate before I started working with a DB and I somehow use them interchangeably.
Yeah, everybody does. Because before they bought Sun Microsystems, they were not making much besides the infamous database.
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@Bulb I always thought they only bought Sun to acquire MySQL to give them options for lower down the vertical slice than full fat Oracle?
I can’t imagine they cared that deeply about Java or VirtualBox or Solaris or any of the rest of Sun’s IP portfolio.
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
But VS-SQL looks like a to me—hey, it does not even come with tooling to keep track of database update scripts
Uh, it does?
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@MrL We might be , but we certainly don't use any.
The db dev modifies the schema in the project, then generates a base update script from it, tweaks it by hand to properly update the data, then throws it over the wall to the ops to run it by hand. Nothing keeps track of what was or wasn't applied, less so making sure everything is.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
I can’t imagine they cared that deeply about Java
It isn't as if half the database runs on it.
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
@MrL We might be , but we certainly don't use any.
The db dev modifies the schema in the project, then generates a base update script from it, tweaks it by hand to properly update the data, then throws it over the wall to the ops to run it by hand. Nothing keeps track of what was or wasn't applied, less so making sure everything is.
I don't remember details, as I left db development behind years ago (thankfully). You have db project which has separated create/seed/modify script sets. Version tracking is done with a table that enumerates scripts run. All I get from a quick search is VS Data Tools, but I don't know if that's it.
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
@Bulb said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
It didn't set my world alight but I would pick it over Oracle.
It's also Oracle, so picking it over Oracle kind of makes no sense 😉.
As far as I can tell, there's exactly one sane reason for picking Oracle: you already have the data in an Oracle database.
You're trying to spend a lot of money so you can take a tax write off?
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@HardwareGeek Given that an Oracle DB comes with an ongoing commitment to having full-time DBAs babysitting it, I'd argue it's a poor choice for tax write-offs too.
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At least they could use the display model beds rather than having to assemble it themselves:
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discovered an SQL injection vulnerability on the registrar website, abuse of which could enable attackers to obtain the plaintext DNS master passwords
(emphasis mine)
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@MrL said in In other news today...:
@Bulb said in In other news today...:
@MrL We might be , but we certainly don't use any.
The db dev modifies the schema in the project, then generates a base update script from it, tweaks it by hand to properly update the data, then throws it over the wall to the ops to run it by hand. Nothing keeps track of what was or wasn't applied, less so making sure everything is.
I don't remember details, as I left db development behind years ago (thankfully). You have db project which has separated create/seed/modify script sets. Version tracking is done with a table that enumerates scripts run. All I get from a quick search is VS Data Tools, but I don't know if that's it.
It's a bit … weird. You have those, and you can compile it to a “dacpac” package that can then be applied to the database, except apparently it's not trustworthy to be actually used on the production database, so when it's time to deploy next release, the DB dev uses the tools to generate a plain .sql update script, which he then needs to tweak manually.