Elevator fail

dhromed

@havokk said:
Your throat is sore because of Blakerat's thing?

Pfft.. he wishes. It's merely a little scratchy.

Because of the little hooks.

nonpartisan

@morbiuswilters said:
Can we stop all this fighting and get back to discussing the exciting world of elevator etiquette?

So, which wall are you supposed to face in an elevator? And does this remain constant or is it dependent on situation? For instance, what if the elevator has doors on two ends of the car instead of just one?

I don't understand why people have such a problem with etiquette on elevators, or trains for that matter. I'll focus on elevators, but:

Those getting off have right-of-way.
Those getting on aren't going to get the car to start moving any faster by shoving their way in.
Stand in the part of the car that roughly corresponds to where your floor is; if you're going to be one of the first off, stand toward the front. One of the last, stand toward the back.
Same principle applies when there is a rear door; you just have to shift your thinking to how often the rear door is used. That is, if the floor you want is one of the first floors you're going to reach but you need the rear door, go stand next to it.
Shift closer to the door as your floor gets closer.
I don't particularly care how you stand so long as you're paying attention to the floors.
Remember that not all conversations are appropriate. Especially in hospitals and about patient care.

Pretty simple, really.

da_Doctah

@nonpartisan said:

Those getting off have right-of-way.
Those getting on aren't going to get the car to start moving any faster by shoving their way in.

The even more general rule is "the person exiting has precedence over the person entering". This is a gross oversimplification of the actual rule which can be stated "the person more likely to have his hands full gets to go first", which applies at most stores; you're carrying your purchases when you leave but the guy coming in is empty-handed.

The "hands full" rule accounts for what appears to be an exception to the "entering/exiting" rule: people entering a public restroom have the right-of-way, because they're "carrying" what they plan on getting rid of in there.

And they're probably in a bigger hurry.

morbiuswilters

@da Doctah said:

This is a gross oversimplification of the actual rule which can be stated "the person more likely to have his hands full gets to go first"

@da Doctah said:

The "hands full" rule accounts for what appears to be an exception to the "entering/exiting" rule: people entering a public restroom have the right-of-way, because they're "carrying" what they plan on getting rid of in there.

O_o

Edit: Also, your rule makes no sense. People exiting have the right of way in almost all circumstances, regardless of how much shit they're carrying. You do not enter the subway/elevator/sex dungeon before people are done exiting, period, no matter how many briefcases/binders/dildos you are carrying.

nonpartisan

@da Doctah said:

The even more general rule is "the person exiting has precedence over the person entering". This is a gross oversimplification of the actual rule which can be stated "the person more likely to have his hands full gets to go first", which applies at most stores; you're carrying your purchases when you leave but the guy coming in is empty-handed.
The "hands full" rule accounts for what appears to be an exception to the "entering/exiting" rule: people entering a public restroom have the right-of-way, because they're "carrying" what they plan on getting rid of in there.
And they're probably in a bigger hurry.

I look at it in terms of: which is the smaller space? Entering an elevator, the elevator is usually smaller. So people should get out first. Same with a bathroom. Otherwise, there's not going to be room for anyone else. Some situations it doesn't much matter; leaving a large box-type store, the relative space of importance in either direction is equal, so I don't pay attention. If it's a small mom & pop hole-in-the-wall, then yes, I let people exit first -- again due to the relative size of the space. Works out in most cases.

And if it doesn't work out on its own, I step aside and politely say, "Please, after you."

PJH

@da Doctah said:

@nonpartisan said:

Those getting off have right-of-way.

Those getting on aren't going to get the car to start moving any faster by shoving their way in.

The even more general rule is "the person exiting has precedence over the person entering". This is a gross oversimplification of the actual rule which can be stated "the person more likely to have his hands full gets to go first", which applies at most stores; you're carrying your purchases when you leave but the guy coming in is empty-handed.

Bollocks. The general rule is 'you can't enter(a full lift) until someone (who want to) leaves.' If someone want's out, you let them out then you take their place. This breaks down, of course, when more people want on, than want off. The same principle applies to any sort of urban transport.