Waxing lunacy
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For those not quite keeping up with the times, there was this new Gregorian year a few weeks ago, sort of a big event.
Part of that annual ritual is acquiring a new calendar, the start of which might look something like this:
In case you can’t tell, this calendar is specifically tailored to the lucrative market of Australian wall calendars for use on Australian walls. The back even says “Designed & Produced in Australia” (also “Printed in Korea”). And yet…
As everyone obviously knows, from the counter-inverted viewpoint of the Southern Hemisphere, the moon waxes and wanes in the sensible and correct direction: left to right. So why is the first quarter phase in this calendar designed, produced, and sold in the Southern Hemisphere, depicted with the right-hand side illuminated?
There’s no excuse.
Professional photo captured professionally with a professional lens of the moon on 2019-12-09, a few nights after first quarter, as it was receding at one-third the speed of light. Note the shadow along the bottom right.
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I'm betting it's just a font with symbols for the moon phases, that's not localized per hemisphere.
Also TIL
Also: it says first quarter when you see 3/4ths... Is it a new moon when it says full?
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@kazitor said in Waxing lunacy:
Part of that annual ritual is acquiring a new calendar
That's so 2019.
_Professional photo captured professionally with a professional lens of the moon on 2019-12-09, a few nights after first quarter, as it was receding at one-third the speed of light.
I hope neither the professional photo nor the professional lens nor the moon nor the quarter were moving at one third the speed of light relative to anything that's not at least a few light years away.
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@kazitor that's really quant how it wraps around like that. At first blush I thought that you were talking about losing 3 days in the calendar.
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Is it a common thing to move the last week of a month to the uppermost row like that? Or was it because dizaigners made only 5 rows (no month has more than 5x7=35 days!) and then someone actually filling the numbers had to make do?
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Waxing lunacy:
Is it a common thing to move the last week of a month to the uppermost row like that? Or was it because dizaigners made only 5 rows (no month has more than 5x7=35 days!) and then someone actually filling the numbers had to make do?
Please wait while I increase the sample size...
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@Tsaukpaetra Ah, so in your area Jan 31 does not exist at all. Man, dates are hard, let's go buy some more.
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@dangeRuss
You mean how the ends of the week are at the ends and Mittwoch is in the middle?
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@Watson said in Waxing lunacy:
@dangeRuss
You mean how the ends of the week are at the ends and Mittwoch is in the middle?When I mistakenly bought a 2019 calendar five weeks ago, I was briefly tempted to say "fuck it, it'll just make the weekend the center part of my week".
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Waxing lunacy:
Is it a common thing to move the last week of a month to the uppermost row like that? Or was it because dizaigners made only 5 rows (no month has more than 5x7=35 days!) and then someone actually filling the numbers had to make do?
The most common solution is to split the last couple of days: the lower left Sunday would be 24/31. In May you'll have two split days. I did this when I put together little planners for my nieces.
Just writing 24/31 for the day number is very common.
This is the first time I've seen the "extra" day put up at top, FWIW.
Edit: Take that, Markdown! :pPpPpPp
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@kazitor said in Waxing lunacy:
moon on 2019-12-09, a few nights after first quarter
The photo shows the moon near the Third Quarter. Well, , that's a few (about 12) nights after the First Quarter.
What about the symbols for "Third Quarter" / "Last Quarter" on Jan 6, New Moon on Jan 13, Full Moon on Jan 29 - do they look as you'd expect them, or different again?And what do people on the equator do - at First Quarter, the "lower" part of the moon is illuminated....
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What's the point of physical calendars anyway? They're always in the wrong place (physically). Besides, the field size is always wrong: for most days, there's nothing to enter, and but inevitably the days where one thing happens, 100 things happen, so the fields are to small then.
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@cvi said in Waxing lunacy:
What's the point of physical calendars anyway? They're always in the wrong place (physically). Besides, the field size is always wrong: for most days, there's nothing to enter, and but inevitably the days where one thing happens, 100 things happen, so the fields are to small then.
But they can have nice pictures.
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My calendar says it's still 2020. Is something wrong?
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@sloosecannon said in Waxing lunacy:
My calendar says it's still 2020. Is something wrong?
No, 2020 was extended for the duration of covid.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Waxing lunacy:
Is it a common thing to move the last week of a month to the uppermost row like that? Or was it because dizaigners made only 5 rows (no month has more than 5x7=35 days!) and then someone actually filling the numbers had to make do?
Windows does that too
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@loopback0
Looks the same to me
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@topspin said in Waxing lunacy:
But they can have nice pictures.
You can get nice pictures without the additional distracting clutter, though.
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@LaoC said in Waxing lunacy:
I hope neither the professional photo nor the professional lens nor the moon nor the quarter were moving at one third the speed of light relative to anything that's not at least a few light years away.
How else do you explain the redshift? Checkmate atheists!!!
@Applied-Mediocrity said in Waxing lunacy:
Is it a common thing to move the last week of a month to the uppermost row like that?
It’s something I’ve seen on plenty of calendars of a range of styles, and didn’t realise it was so noteworthy. The 24/31 thing is pretty novel to me.
I do prefer the continuous style that computers especially allow, though. Categorising into months is so arbitrary and adds inconvenient, sporadic barriers that don’t need to exist.
@BernieTheBernie said in Waxing lunacy:
@kazitor said in Waxing lunacy:
moon on 2019-12-09, a few nights after first quarter
The photo shows the moon near the Third Quarter.
In Eurospeak, perhaps. Remember, that photo was taken in the non-inverted hemisphere where waxing proceeds normally. I even checked an online phase calendar thing which is kinda confusing to read because the “first” quarter is on the right, but the ninth was clearly a waxing gibbous.
@cvi said in Waxing lunacy:
What's the point of physical calendars anyway? They're always in the wrong place (physically). Besides, the field size is always wrong: for most days, there's nothing to enter, and but inevitably the days where one thing happens, 100 things happen, so the fields are to small then.
That calendar actually has a fair bit written on it when those annotations haven’t been digitally removed in post-processing, and none of it’s cramped
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@topspin said in Waxing lunacy:
@cvi said in Waxing lunacy:
What's the point of physical calendars anyway? They're always in the wrong place (physically). Besides, the field size is always wrong: for most days, there's nothing to enter, and but inevitably the days where one thing happens, 100 things happen, so the fields are to small then.
But they can have nice pictures.
Indeed. I favour the sort of nice pictures you find in the calendars by Avions de Chasse, which, despite the name (fr: "Fighter(1) Aircraft"), feature nearly- or totally-unclad young women.
(1) Literally "Hunting", but "literal" translations are rarely the best.
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So TIL that there's a Southern Hemisphere Moon Phase Watch for when you want to get it right...
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@error said in Waxing lunacy:
Also: it says first quarter when you see 3/4ths... Is it a new moon when it says full?
At first quarter, you see exactly half. (It's 1/4 of the lunar cycle, not 1/4 of the moon visible.) He said it was taken a few days after first quarter. Since full moon is 7 days (± a few hours; to look up exactly) after first quarter, "a few days" is approaching full.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Waxing lunacy:
@Tsaukpaetra Ah, so in your area Jan 31 does not exist at all. Man, dates are hard, let's go buy some more.
It is (or used to be; it's been a few years since I bought a paper calendar) somewhat common to see a single block for two days, labeled 24/31 (or similar), in such situations.
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@kazitor said in Waxing lunacy:
Categorising into months is so arbitrary and adds inconvenient, sporadic barriers that don’t need to exist.
Like recurring bills that are always due on the first day of the month.
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I think you need to submit a change request to Unicode to get the correct symbols added for southern hemisphere:
Of course, font designers will "helpfully" use the same display for "waxing, North" and "waning, South", creating yet another DNS phishing vector.
Whether that will accepted before or after Klingon, and before or after vomiting moon, I don't know.
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@remi said in Waxing lunacy:
vomiting moon
I'm sure "vomiting Statue of Liberty" would be highly anticipated over in the though!
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@kazitor said in Waxing lunacy:
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@LaoC said in Waxing lunacy:
I hope neither the professional photo nor the professional lens nor the moon nor the quarter were moving at one third the speed of light relative to anything that's not at least a few light years away.
How else do you explain the redshift? Checkmate atheists!!!
Looks more orange, so I put it down to a reflection of that dumpster fire.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Waxing lunacy:
nearly- or totally-unclad young women.
I wonder why my first impulse is always an excited "Really? Where?" before I remember I can look at nude (and more) women at any time in just a few keystrokes.
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@LaoC said in Waxing lunacy:
@kazitor said in Waxing lunacy:
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@LaoC said in Waxing lunacy:
I hope neither the professional photo nor the professional lens nor the moon nor the quarter were moving at one third the speed of light relative to anything that's not at least a few light years away.
How else do you explain the redshift? Checkmate atheists!!!
Looks more orange, so I put it down to a reflection of that dumpster fire.
Nice, although on a more serious note, it's Rayleigh scattering when the Moon is near the horizon.
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@error said in Waxing lunacy:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in Waxing lunacy:
nearly- or totally-unclad young women.
I wonder why my first impulse is always an excited "Really? Where?" before I remember I can look at nude (and more) women at any time in just a few keystrokes.
You're not wrong, except that the device for those keystrokes is over there in that room, and I'm over here in this room (specifically the kitchen), where the calendar is.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Waxing lunacy:
@LaoC said in Waxing lunacy:
@kazitor said in Waxing lunacy:
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@LaoC said in Waxing lunacy:
I hope neither the professional photo nor the professional lens nor the moon nor the quarter were moving at one third the speed of light relative to anything that's not at least a few light years away.
How else do you explain the redshift? Checkmate atheists!!!
Looks more orange, so I put it down to a reflection of that dumpster fire.
Nice, although on a more serious note, it's Rayleigh scattering when the Moon is near the horizon.
Fake news!
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Waxing lunacy:
the device for those keystrokes is over there in that room, and I'm over here in this room (specifically the kitchen),
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Waxing lunacy:
Is it a common thing to move the last week of a month to the uppermost row like that? Or was it because dizaigners made only 5 rows (no month has more than 5x7=35 days!) and then someone actually filling the numbers had to make do?
The actual problem is having Sunday on the left instead of the right of the calendar. Weeks start on Mondays!
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Waxing lunacy:
Is it a common thing to move the last week of a month to the uppermost row like that?
Good catch. At first I thought that 31 was New Year's Eve, but then there's some kind of time warp for four days.
Filed under: It's the hangover recovery period.
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@sloosecannon said in Waxing lunacy:
@loopback0
Looks the same to meSlightly different to me, but...
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@kazitor said in Waxing lunacy:
Part of that annual ritual is acquiring a new calendar
I get multiple free ones mailed every year. (I like having one on the wall in the kitchen) And, no, they don't manage to bribe an extra contribution out of me.
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@uschwarz-0 said in Waxing lunacy:
When I mistakenly bought a 2019 calendar five weeks ago,
I hope it was heavily discounted...
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Waxing lunacy:
Is it a common thing to move the last week of a month to the uppermost row like that?
I didn't even notice that at first. I thought they'd left-shifted Thu 12/31 to Sun.
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@error said in Waxing lunacy:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in Waxing lunacy:
the device for those keystrokes is over there in that room, and I'm over here in this room (specifically the kitchen),
You mean my cell phone that's sitting in the kitchen while I'm in the office?
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@dcon said in Waxing lunacy:
@error said in Waxing lunacy:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in Waxing lunacy:
the device for those keystrokes is over there in that room, and I'm over here in this room (specifically the kitchen),
You mean my cell phone that's sitting in the kitchen while I'm in the office?
Or in my case, the one that's sitting in the living room while I'm in the kitchen cooking stuff. I can look at the calendar if the mood strikes me without getting ... stuff ... on my phone.
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@error said in Waxing lunacy:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in Waxing lunacy:
the device for those keystrokes is over there in that room, and I'm over here in this room (specifically the kitchen),
You wish, autosuggest.
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When I read the thread title “Waxing lunacy” I thought it was going to be about something more along the lines of:—
(For the hard of thinking, the texts on the windows translate as, from left to right, “Hairdresser Silvio”, “Nail studio Monique” and “Hair removal studio Van Boekel”)
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@uschwarz-0 said in Waxing lunacy:
When I mistakenly bought a 2019 calendar five weeks ago,
Hope it was something useful, like the "Far Side" or similar. Actually, the date shown doesn't matter then.
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@remi said in Waxing lunacy:
I think you need to submit a change request to Unicode to get the correct symbols added for southern hemisphere:
I looked further into this, and it turns out moongate goes even deeper. You see, Unicode has three codepoints for “first quarter moon” alone, and all of them are reversed.
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U+263D FIRST QUARTER MOON
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U+1F313 FIRST QUARTER MOON SYMBOL
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U+1F31B FIRST QUARTER MOON WITH FACE
There’s some hope! A document addresses this issue on unicode.org:
In true Unicode fashion, he suggests a variation selector for northern and southern views. But given the date of 2017-08-21, it’s clearly far more important to the Unicode Consortium to create a parallel encoding where every face is a cat, than it is to address the most prominent and pervasive problem in all of modern society.
@Steve_The_Cynic said in Waxing lunacy:
on a more serious note, it's Rayleigh scattering when the Moon is near the horizon.
As the photographer of that photo, I feel qualified to affirm that the moon was nowhere near the horizon, and was in fact rather high up in the sky at the time. No, the only plausible explanations are exaggerated scattering from all the smoke after this little event around December/January, or the Doppler effect. And just one of those is funny.
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@kazitor said in Waxing lunacy:
2017-08-21
I was half expecting this to have been submitted on 201X-04-01
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@kazitor said in Waxing lunacy:
it’s clearly far more important to the Unicode Consortium to create a parallel encoding where every face is a cat, than it is to address the most prominent and pervasive problem in all of modern society
It's more important to the Unicode Consortium to make the moon vomit than it is to make to make the moon point the right way in the southern hemisphere.