Apple stand
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Apple monitor stand that costs more than an iPhone sparks online uproar | CNN Business
Apple product launches always get buzz, but one new gadget announcement has left some people bemused: a monitor stand that costs more than many computers.
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"Peasants."
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I gotta say that this reminds me of a high-end audio equipment store near a place I used to live. You know the kind of thing: valve amps with the valves conspicuously displayed, glass-bed turntables, all that blah-blah.
Well, on one occasion (since I went by there occasionally for other purposes) I looked in their window, and there was a pair of speaker stands priced at £1500 each. For those wishing to speculate about the effects of inflation, this would have been in the year 2000.
Um.
Not £1500 for the pair, but £1500 per stand.
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Expensive products are expensive.
At least it's not pretending to do something it doesn't like gold-plated HDMI cables etc.
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@loopback0 said in Apple stand:
Expensive products are expensive.
At least it's not pretending to do something it doesn't like gold-plated HDMI cables etc.
Yup...
"The Pro Stand has an intricately engineered arm that perfectly counterbalances the display so it feels virtually weightless, allowing users to easily place it into position,"
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@dcon said in Apple stand:
allowing users to easily place it into position,
That definitely seems worth the huge price, considering I positioned my monitor once a couple of years ago and haven't moved it since...
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@mott555 said in Apple stand:
@dcon said in Apple stand:
allowing users to easily place it into position,
That definitely seems worth the huge price, considering I positioned my monitor once a couple of years ago and haven't moved it since...
LOL, yup! My Lenovo monitor came with a (plastic) adjustable stand. It's stayed in place quite well for the last 5 years...
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@dcon said in Apple stand:
LOL, yup! My Lenovo monitor came with a (plastic) adjustable stand. It's stayed in place quite well for the last 5 years...
And there I am using two reams of cheap paper as a monitor stand like a chump!
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@dkf That's what everyone around here with an Apple monitor uses - since they don't come with an adjustable base! (Tho mine's a evidently a cheap version - doesn't allow my to rotate the monitor!)
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I actually do move my monitors around a bit.
I use an pneumatic "arm" stand, which cost about 6% as much as the Apple one.
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@Captain said in Apple stand:
I use an pneumatic "arm" stand, which cost about 6% as much as the Apple one.
But yours doesn't allow you to place it easily.
That's why it's cheaper
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@TimeBandit said in Apple stand:
@Captain said in Apple stand:
I use an pneumatic "arm" stand, which cost about 6% as much as the Apple one.
But yours
doesn'tallow you toplace it easilydo it wrong.
That's why it's cheaper
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@Captain said in Apple stand:
I use an pneumatic "arm" stand, which cost about 6% as much as the Apple one.
At work, I've got something like that as well. In theory you can easily move the monitor, in practice I've got two and aligning them next to each other is tricky enough that my autistic tendencies don't allow me to move them.
At home I've got a pair of wall-mounted arms which can move about in the horizontal plane, but stay put well enough for my taste.
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@PleegWat said in Apple stand:
At work, I've got something like that as well
In the same price range (6%) ?
If we don't know how much it cost, we can't judge the quality
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A thousand dollar stand for a monitor aimed at businesses which typically use their own mounts is one (incredibly dumb) thing. The even dumber part that I don't really see mentioned often enough is that they have some kind of proprietary mounting system on it, and a VESA adapter that allows you to use a different mount still costs TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS, which is about twice as much as I've paid for my two monitor mount.
Two hundred bucks for a simple piece of metal, because they just have to use a fucking magnet instead of a standard that literally everyone else has been using for decades. "It's easy to attach!" - how often does anyone change monitor mounts?!
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@TimeBandit To place it, all I have to do is move it. :-)
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@Steve_The_Cynic when it comes to audiophile stuff, things get silly really quickly. It is true that an ideal stand should isolate the speaker from the floor. That doesn't cost $1500.
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@admiral_p said in Apple stand:
@Steve_The_Cynic when it comes to audiophile stuff, things get silly really quickly. It is true that an ideal stand should isolate the speaker from the floor. That doesn't cost $1500.
:gasp:
Take that back you non-believer!
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@dcon by the way according to audiophile pretensions it is practically impossible to have an adequate "listening room" anyway.
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@mott555 said in Apple stand:
I positioned my monitor once a couple of years ago and haven't moved it since...
At work the only time I move mine is when the cleaners have inexplicably moved them while dusting my desk.
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@blek said in Apple stand:
A thousand dollar stand for a monitor aimed at businesses which typically use their own mounts is one (incredibly dumb) thing.
A thousand dollar stand in the context of a six thousand dollar computer with a five thousand dollar display. It's not exactly aimed at your typical business.
I'm not justifying the cost of the stand, just pointing out the two markets aren't the same.
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@loopback0 Yeah, I know, but the extra thousand bucks for a shitty stand is such bad PR that, if they really thought they needed to do this, they really shouldn't have talked about it on a keynote at all. Just say "yeah that monitor doesn't come with a stand by default but you can buy one if you'd like" and move on, don't put that thing on a big screen, especially not with the insane price tag included.
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@blek said in Apple stand:
don't put that thing on a big screen, especially not with the insane price tag included.
You really don't understand the Apple way :
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@admiral_p said in Apple stand:
@Steve_The_Cynic when it comes to audiophile stuff, things get silly really quickly. It is true that an ideal stand should isolate the speaker from the floor. That doesn't cost $1500.
True, but in this case, it was £1500, not $1500, at a time when one £ was about $1.6, so think of it more like $2500 in year 2000 dollars.
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@TimeBandit said in Apple stand:
@PleegWat said in Apple stand:
At work, I've got something like that as well
In the same price range (6%) ?
If we don't know how much it cost, we can't judge the quality
Probably more like 12%. Corporate came along with them of their own accord with the instruction to use them and I don't think I ever heard a price.
Does come with a normal vesa mount.
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You all are just envious peasants, that's all.
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@MrL said in Apple stand:
You all are just envious peasants
Of course I'm envious of Apple selling way overprice gadgets of poor quality to dumb iDiots
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@MrL said in Apple stand:
You all are just envious peasants, that's all.
@TimeBandit said in Apple stand:
Of course I'm envious of Apple selling way overprice gadgets of poor quality to dumb iDiots
I either want less
corruptionfleecing the sheep or more chance to participate in it.
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@dkf said in Apple stand:
@dcon said in Apple stand:
LOL, yup! My Lenovo monitor came with a (plastic) adjustable stand. It's stayed in place quite well for the last 5 years...
And there I am using two reams of cheap paper as a monitor stand like a chump!
I'm using a box containing an outdated version of FileMaker Pro.
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I just found out that the thing is a desktop stand, where before I had thought it was the size of a floor lamp. What a pile of crap.
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@loopback0 I saw this picture:
and I thought the idea was that you'd put the stand on the floor, saving desk space, and position the screen wherever you needed it. That sounded like a neat idea.
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Where do you put the desk? Just hanging in the middle of the room? Or no desk at all? You control your PC with gestures like some sort of Neo?
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@hungrier of course you gave Apple an idea. An accompanying desk for a floor-mounted stand, with a nice cut-out where the stand's bar would be.
It'll cost $2500.
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@admiral_p You forgot a zero there.
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@hungrier said in Apple stand:
I saw this picture:
I'm not sure VESA mounts are the size of aeroplane propellers either.
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@admiral_p said in Apple stand:
Where do you put the desk?
In front of the thing, something like this:
I don't have my desk right up against the wall
@loopback0 said in Apple stand:
I'm not sure VESA mounts are the size of aeroplane propellers either.
Right, that would be ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as charging $1000 for a monitor stand.
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@blek said in Apple stand:
is such bad PR
There ain't no such thing as bad PR. All PR is good is the rule that Apple swears by, and it is working great for them (as it does for anybody else bold enough to pull it).
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@hungrier said in Apple stand:
@admiral_p said in Apple stand:
Where do you put the desk?
In front of the thing, something like this:
I don't have my desk right up against the wall
Ohhh I quite like that idea.
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@hungrier yeah but what's the point anyway? The space below the monitor is going to be unusable, and/or a good way to have stuff rolling off the back of the desk before you can catch it.
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@admiral_p Why would it be unusable? Right now at my work I've got a dual monitor setup held up on arms that connect to a pole secured behind the desk. I've got plenty of usable desk space underneath the monitors, which currently house a docking station for the laptop, my (paper) notebook, a mess of paper and bunch of other crap.
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@admiral_p Not necessarily. At work, my monitors are suspended by a clamp on the back edge of the deck, so I regained a ton of desk space by not having any stands on the desk's top. Beneath the screens, I have plenty of space for my phone, a small Mini-ITX workstation, UPS, notepads and books, and I can shove my keyboard and mouse under there, too, when I need a little more space for assembly tasks.
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@hungrier said in Apple stand:
ght now at my work I've got a dual monitor setup held up on arms that connect to a pole secured behind the desk.
I have a quad-monitor setup! Three on my main workstation, and number 4 is on a 4-port KVM to a slew of secondary workstations on other OS's or for PXI chassis/controllers.
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@DogsB said in Apple stand:
Ohhh I quite like that idea.
That will be $12000.
Note that you can add a footrest for a small fee
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@admiral_p said in Apple stand:
Where do you put the desk?
Desks are so 20th century. Come out of your shell and talk to siri!
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@admiral_p said in Apple stand:
@Steve_The_Cynic when it comes to audiophile stuff, things get silly really quickly. It is true that an ideal stand should isolate the speaker from the floor.
No, an ideal stand should couple the speaker to the floor as strongly as possible. Like bolting into a concrete pad. The speaker should not move, except for the cone.
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@Captain said in Apple stand:
No, an ideal stand should couple the speaker to the floor as strongly as possible. Like bolting into a concrete pad. The speaker should not move, except for the cone.
Much of the confusion here stems, I suspect, from an unawareness of the fundamental nature of the physics of LF resonant wave behavior.
May I suggest you examine the structure of a standing wave which is defined as regions of high pressure and alternating regions of low pressure. The null of a standing wave is not created by the destructive interference of multiple superposed out of phase signals! It is the reinforced fundamental wave behavior of a frequency whose energy is augmented by room geometry.
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@Applied-Mediocrity So just bolt the speaker to a standing wave. What's the problem?
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@hungrier said in Apple stand:
@Applied-Mediocrity So just bolt the speaker to a standing wave. What's the problem?
@hungrier said in Apple stand:
monitor setup held up on arms that connect to a pole
