HubblePhone
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I was alerted today to the existence of the HubblePhone.
There's so much wrong with it and I can't pick highlights.
Emotional Machine Intelligence
Of interest is the phone itself and its full specs.
This thing apparently has four screens or something? The specs keep referring separately to the "Upper" and "Main" deck, so is it supposed to be two discrete phones, connected?
256GB, 8GB LPDDR4x RAM
IP68 dust/water proof (up to 1.5m for 30 mins)
I'm getting flashbacks...
a futuristic device with an advanced vision system and the perfect blending of four products - a revolutionary multi-screen smartphone, a 5G communication device, a professional grade camera with advanced image and HD video editing software, and a mobile gaming console
space! space Hubble space! Turing! [paraphrased]
But nothing to do with any of those.
HubblePhone includes an Artificial Reality (AfR) messaging application which allows users to send 3D animated messages projected into the recipient's immediate physical surroundings.
integrating AR, VR, MR, XR and AfR technologies
I understood the first two.
Digging around led me to https://sparkpr.com/, whose site doesn't exactly instil confidence.
Want one? (why.) Have a look at pre-orders:
Crypto Pre-order Campaign
The only way to pre-order a HubblePhone K3-XR is to purchase a HubbleCard. [...] The HubbleCard Token, HUBB, is a new stablecoin derivative in which each outstanding token is backed by one USDT (see https://tether.to).
Uh...
?Unfortunately, I found out about this because a friend was interested. I tried to tell them how anything to do with cryptocurrency is almost guaranteed to be a scam and that it's vastly over-specced, but he's still interested. At least he has the sense to wait it out some time to make sure they're legit.
Anyway this whole thing's crazy; I can't do it justice with these excerpts.
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@kazitor said in HubblePhone:
integrating AR, VR, MR, XR and AfR technologies
I understood the first two.
In order:
- Augmented Reality
- Virtual Reality
- Mixed Reality (really, it's just AR)
- Cross Reality (Really, anything that does VR or AR)
- Artificial Reality (something they just came up with. NFC).
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@Tsaukpaetra It's a bit like saying "our restaurant combines food, fast food, hamburger and fast food hamburger technologies"
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Even if it were real, I still would not buy it. I require of all my phones a rectangular screen without any notches. Notches make movies smaller (or missing bits, which is not an improvement). Placement of the notch is especially bad in this one, as it cuts the screen space sideways.
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@acrow said in HubblePhone:
Notches make movies smaller (or missing bits, which is not an improvement).
That's preposterous and simply not true. Notches are where the cameras and sensors are. Without a notch, they'd still be there.
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@kt_ said in HubblePhone:
@acrow said in HubblePhone:
Notches make movies smaller (or missing bits, which is not an improvement).
That's preposterous and simply not true. Notches are where the cameras and sensors are. Without a notch, they'd still be there.
Allow me to rephrase:
I do not wish to pay for the screen area on either side of a notch, for it is unusable for me. Watching a video or reading an article are the only thing that I do that receive a benefit from a larger screen. Everything else I can do with a quarter of the screen space of modern phones. Neither of those activities can use the odd-shaped space on either side of the notch in any meaningful way. Or, indeed any screen area that is not rectangular. Therefore, I do not like paying for the material costs of that wasted screen area. I also do not like the extra fragility introduced by odd-shaped screen arangements. If I have a choise between two phones, whose only difference is that the other extends its screen around its sensors, I shall take the one with the rectangular screen, thank you very much.
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@acrow Well clearly you're just not forward-thinking enough, unlike Apple. If they make a design decision that seems bad, it's only because – well nothing they ever do is bad.
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@acrow said in HubblePhone:
@kt_ said in HubblePhone:
@acrow said in HubblePhone:
Notches make movies smaller (or missing bits, which is not an improvement).
That's preposterous and simply not true. Notches are where the cameras and sensors are. Without a notch, they'd still be there.
Allow me to rephrase:
I do not wish to pay for the screen area on either side of a notch, for it is unusable for me. Watching a video or reading an article are the only thing that I do that receive a benefit from a larger screen. Everything else I can do with a quarter of the screen space of modern phones. Neither of those activities can use the odd-shaped space on either side of the notch in any meaningful way. Or, indeed any screen area that is not rectangular. Therefore, I do not like paying for the material costs of that wasted screen area. I also do not like the extra fragility introduced by odd-shaped screen arangements. If I have a choise between two phones, whose only difference is that the other extends its screen around its sensors, I shall take the one with the rectangular screen, thank you very much.Well, at least in the iPhone, the sides of the notch host what would previously be in the top bar, which means that the top bar is pushed up a notch (haha!), no longer using your rectangular real estate. So yes, you do get a line or two more of text per screen.
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@aitap I think that was xkcd :)
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@kazitor said in HubblePhone:
@acrow Well clearly you're just not forward-thinking enough, unlike Apple. If they make a design decision that seems bad, it's only because – well nothing they ever do is bad.
Not my point, my point is he's clearly wrong. Had he said he didn't like the design, I would have accepted that without any question.
Either way, sideways notch is just hilarious. 😂
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This is also cool:
https://www.hubblephone.com/keplerian-os
The Keplerian Operating System is a purpose built set of extensions to the FreeBSD Operating System. The extensions include new device drivers to interface with modern, AI, and AR hardware as well as a new Keplerian SDK which presents a set of AI technologies in a coherent manner to the application programmer. Keplerian seeks to unify access to various types of AI hardware so that it is not dependent on a particular SoC or chipset.
These guys prove that there's no such thing as a half-way crook.
Though DigitalTrends say it's real: https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/turing-hubblephone-news/
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@kt_ said in HubblePhone:
Though DigitalTrends say it's real: https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/turing-hubblephone-news/
Turing Robotics wants yet another shot at the smartphone market. Despite a few failed phone launches under its belt — and after filing bankruptcy earlier this year —
That's interesting. Gives me the impression that this is some sort of last-minute desperate cash grab with nothing to lose.
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Sounds like a relative of
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@kazitor said in HubblePhone:
Emotional Machine Intelligence
Now your phone can have a hysterical break-down in case of an emergency!
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@ixvedeusi said in HubblePhone:
@Tsaukpaetra said in HubblePhone:
Artificial Reality
AKA "Illusion"
Realized Alternative Facts.
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@kt_ said in HubblePhone:
@acrow said in HubblePhone:
@kt_ said in HubblePhone:
@acrow said in HubblePhone:
Notches make movies smaller (or missing bits, which is not an improvement).
That's preposterous and simply not true. Notches are where the cameras and sensors are. Without a notch, they'd still be there.
Allow me to rephrase:
I do not wish to pay for the screen area on either side of a notch, for it is unusable for me. Watching a video or reading an article are the only thing that I do that receive a benefit from a larger screen. Everything else I can do with a quarter of the screen space of modern phones. Neither of those activities can use the odd-shaped space on either side of the notch in any meaningful way. Or, indeed any screen area that is not rectangular. Therefore, I do not like paying for the material costs of that wasted screen area. I also do not like the extra fragility introduced by odd-shaped screen arangements. If I have a choise between two phones, whose only difference is that the other extends its screen around its sensors, I shall take the one with the rectangular screen, thank you very much.Well, at least in the iPhone, the sides of the notch host what would previously be in the top bar, which means that the top bar is pushed up a notch (haha!), no longer using your rectangular real estate. So yes, you do get a line or two more of text per screen.
As opposed to just hiding the top bar? Speaking of which, is it now a legal requirement to always show the top bar? My Samsung S5 Mini used to hide the top bar when it wasn't showing notifications or otherwise relevant. But after an update it's now always visible and eating screen space.
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@acrow Maybe a setting that was overridden?
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@kt_ said in HubblePhone:
@acrow said in HubblePhone:
@kt_ said in HubblePhone:
@acrow said in HubblePhone:
Notches make movies smaller (or missing bits, which is not an improvement).
That's preposterous and simply not true. Notches are where the cameras and sensors are. Without a notch, they'd still be there.
Allow me to rephrase:
I do not wish to pay for the screen area on either side of a notch, for it is unusable for me. Watching a video or reading an article are the only thing that I do that receive a benefit from a larger screen. Everything else I can do with a quarter of the screen space of modern phones. Neither of those activities can use the odd-shaped space on either side of the notch in any meaningful way. Or, indeed any screen area that is not rectangular. Therefore, I do not like paying for the material costs of that wasted screen area. I also do not like the extra fragility introduced by odd-shaped screen arangements. If I have a choise between two phones, whose only difference is that the other extends its screen around its sensors, I shall take the one with the rectangular screen, thank you very much.Well, at least in the iPhone, the sides of the notch host what would previously be in the top bar, which means that the top bar is pushed up a notch (haha!), no longer using your rectangular real estate. So yes, you do get a line or two more of text per screen.
Apple at least had the sense to put the notch at the top where the phone is the most narrow.
These jokers put screens on both sides of the flip-up part but then added notches on the long side of each screen so that the screen becomes even more narrow if you want to frame something away from the notch area.
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How, exactly, should this phone be held?
Just edge-to-edge screens make some phones very precarious to hold without accidentally activating the touch-screen. So people buy "grip rings":
Will all screens be touch-enabled?
You'll be able to recognize owners of this phone from the calluses. At least the suffering will be mercifully short, because it'll always fall screen-downwards. Unfortunately, some users may be able to tie a wrist-strap to the hinge, so some specimens may linger for awhile.
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So the company seems to be real as they were formerly, Turing Robotic Industries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_Robotic_Industries
And the Hubble Phone used to be called the Turing Phone, but they never delivered: https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/7/16985878/turing-robotic-industries-finland-phone-appasionato-promises-preorders and filed for bankruptcy. So seems this is just a scam to try and snag all the money they wasted the first time around scamming investors.
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I'm confused. Do you get 3 phones with the "Herschel" package? Or does one phone have 3 SoC's, storage devices and sets of RAM chips?
This is one of the shinier bitcoin scams, I'll give them that. In it's folded form I think it looks pretty nice. in it's "expanded" form it looks like they're trying to channel those early 2000's vertical camcorders that I always thought were heinous.
Edit: Holy shit you do get 3 processors in one device. Why? WHY?!? I could understand 1.5TB of storage and 30GB RAM, but 3 processors serves literally no purpose.
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@aapis said in HubblePhone:
form it looks like they're trying to channel those early 2000's vertical camcorders that I always thought were heinous.
Or that one Nokia phone
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@swayde said in HubblePhone:
@aapis said in HubblePhone:
form it looks like they're trying to channel those early 2000's vertical camcorders that I always thought were heinous.
Or that one Nokia phone
Or it's all bullshit.
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@CodeJunkie of course it is. But the damn render looks like one of the weird Nokia phones.
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@CodeJunkie said in HubblePhone:
This one? https://m0.joe.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/19110042/nokia-n90.jpg
Exactly that one!
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@ixvedeusi said in HubblePhone:
@kazitor said in HubblePhone:
Emotional Machine Intelligence
Now your phone can have a hysterical break-down in case of an emergency!
They better have a model named Marvin.
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@aapis said in HubblePhone:
3 processors serves literally no purpose.
They want to sell add-on batteries?
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@acrow said in HubblePhone:
@kt_ said in HubblePhone:
@acrow said in HubblePhone:
@kt_ said in HubblePhone:
@acrow said in HubblePhone:
Notches make movies smaller (or missing bits, which is not an improvement).
That's preposterous and simply not true. Notches are where the cameras and sensors are. Without a notch, they'd still be there.
Allow me to rephrase:
I do not wish to pay for the screen area on either side of a notch, for it is unusable for me. Watching a video or reading an article are the only thing that I do that receive a benefit from a larger screen. Everything else I can do with a quarter of the screen space of modern phones. Neither of those activities can use the odd-shaped space on either side of the notch in any meaningful way. Or, indeed any screen area that is not rectangular. Therefore, I do not like paying for the material costs of that wasted screen area. I also do not like the extra fragility introduced by odd-shaped screen arangements. If I have a choise between two phones, whose only difference is that the other extends its screen around its sensors, I shall take the one with the rectangular screen, thank you very much.Well, at least in the iPhone, the sides of the notch host what would previously be in the top bar, which means that the top bar is pushed up a notch (haha!), no longer using your rectangular real estate. So yes, you do get a line or two more of text per screen.
As opposed to just hiding the top bar?
Indeed. The top bar can be hidden by an application, but most doesn't default to that. Thankfully.
Speaking of which, is it now a legal requirement to always show the top bar?
Dunno, depends on which country you're from. Tell me and we'll look into that.
My Samsung S5 Mini used to hide the top bar when it wasn't showing notifications or otherwise relevant. But after an update it's now always visible and eating screen space.
It's interesting. What do you mean by "otherwise relevant"? I like seeing the top bar, it's where the time is displayed. I sometimes understand it being hidden, like Netflix or YouTube horizontal mode, or like Instapaper (I believe) used to do: the top bar would show in navigation mode, but it'd be hidden in reading mode.
I guess what they actually achieved with the notch (and please keep in mind that I'm not arguing whether it's aesthetically pleasing) is that you can always be shown time, signal strength and battery state without sacrificing screen real estate. I seem to have grown to appreciate that.
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@kt_ Nevermind. It was indeed a setting that had gotten flipped, presumably by an update. A setting of the browser, btw.. Got what I wanted; now the bar is hidden when I'm reading or browsing.
If I want to see the time, I will dig up my non-smart flip-phone by force of habit anyway. ...Yes, I keep a flip-phone with me at all times. It keeps a charge for 2 weeks and Just Works (TM).
"otherwise relevant"
If I recall, the bar shows up when I lose signal or get a notification. I.e. when there is something to show other than variations of the signal strength. Signal strength is overall not something of interest in Finland, if you're anywhere near a city or town.
Edit:
Whoever specced this particular markdown parser needs to be shot in at least one kneecap.
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@dcon said in HubblePhone:
@aapis said in HubblePhone:
3 processors serves literally no purpose.
They want to sell add-on batteries?
Maybe it has a HDD? HDDs have 3 ARM cores, right? (Some of them do, at least.)
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@aapis said in HubblePhone:
Holy shit you do get 3 processors in one device. Why? WHY?!?
You don't want to know how many processors a “computer” typically has…
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Finger-Grip-Ring-Rotating-Fone-Stuff%C2%AE-Gold/dp/B00UI0QIYE
