Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?
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and other educational questions by me!
They should be called Netherlandians or Netherlanders!
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@Nagesh said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
They should be called ... Netherlanders!
IIRC the Dutch word for Netherlands is Nederlands and the word for Dutch people is Nederlanders.
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In Old English "dutch" meant “people or nation.”
“Low Dutch” referred to people from the flatlands in what is now the Netherlands.
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@loopback0 said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
@Nagesh said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
They should be called ... Netherlanders!
IIRC the Dutch word for Netherlands is Nederlands and the word for Dutch people is Nederlanders.
Trust the English people to mess it up for rest of world!
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Here you go:
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@loopback0 said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
@Nagesh said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
They should be called ... Netherlanders!
IIRC the Dutch word for Netherlands is Nederlands
Almost correct: if you’re referring to the country, it’s Nederland. Adding -s or -se makes it an adjective: Nederlands nieuws (“Dutch news”) or Nederlandse mensen (“Dutch people”).
and the word for Dutch people is Nederlanders.
Correct, for the plural. Singular is Nederlander, or Nederlandse in the feminine form (which has been getting rarer and rarer in recent years for nouns in general, not just this one).
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@Gurth said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
Almost correct: if you’re referring to the country, it’s Nederland. Adding -s or -se makes it an adjective
TIL.
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@Gurth said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
or Nederlandse in the feminine form
What about the non-binary ones?
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@TimeBandit said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
What about the non-binary ones?
Deported to Belgium.
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@loopback0 said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
@TimeBandit said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
What about the non-binary ones?
Deported to Belgium.
And people call the US bad about trans issues...
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@Benjamin-Hall said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
And people call the US bad about trans issues...
People call the US bad about LOTS of issues
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@TimeBandit said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
What about the non-binary ones?
They can count in some other base.
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@Nagesh said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
They should be called Netherlandians or Netherlanders!
“Dutch” and “Deutch” (the German word for “German”) are essentially the same word; the root is the same, and the difference just reflects relatively recent linguistic divergence.
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@dkf said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
“Deutsch” (the German word for “German”)
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@Gurth Oops. Yes. Please interpret what I said as if it had your correction applied.
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@dkf said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
@Nagesh said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
They should be called Netherlandians or Netherlanders!
“Dutch” and “Deutch” (the German word for “German”) are essentially the same word; the root is the same, and the difference just reflects relatively recent linguistic divergence.
Yes these are same people who descend from Vandals!
interesting fact -
VAN - Forest in Sanskrit
DAL - Tribe or group. Political parties in India use this root. example - "Janata Dal"
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@Nagesh said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
@dkf said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
@Nagesh said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
They should be called Netherlandians or Netherlanders!
“Dutch” and “Deutch” (the German word for “German”) are essentially the same word; the root is the same, and the difference just reflects relatively recent linguistic divergence.
Yes these are same people who descend from Vandals!
interesting fact -
VAN - Forest in Sanskrit
DAL - Tribe or group. Political parties in India use this root. example - "Janata Dal"For people more in family with Indian Cusine, they know DAL as food. As in "DAL TADKA".
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@Nagesh said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
Yes these are same people who descend from Vandals!
interesting fact -
VAN - Forest in Sanskrit
DAL - Tribe or group. Political parties in India use this root. example - "Janata Dal"Are you trying to explain the etymology of the word Vandal? Because if so:
Etymology
From Latin Vandalus, named after the Germanic tribe, from Proto-Germanic *wandilaz, from Proto-Indo-European *wendʰ-eh₂-.
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@Gurth said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
@Nagesh said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
Yes these are same people who descend from Vandals!
interesting fact -
VAN - Forest in Sanskrit
DAL - Tribe or group. Political parties in India use this root. example - "Janata Dal"Are you trying to explain the etymology of the word Vandal? Because if so:
Etymology
From Latin Vandalus, named after the Germanic tribe, from Proto-Germanic *wandilaz, from Proto-Indo-European *wendʰ-eh₂-.No. I am telling about a "concidence" between the languages.
I am sure you will agree that before "Max Mueller" mangled up "Sanskrit", it had been around for at least 4000 years.
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You're all wrong. Everyone knows the tribe was named after the punk band.
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netherlanders is too much typing so the world has settled on a shorter convention
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@bb36e said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
so the world has settled on a shorter convention
that's why Flemish people
useabuse the term Holland and Hollander to not only refer the region above Amsterdam but also to the whole nation above the Schelde-river. It's slightly more civilized then Kaaskop
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@Luhmann said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
@bb36e said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
so the world has settled on a shorter convention
that's why Flemish people
useabuse the term Holland and Hollander to not only refer the region above Amsterdam but also to the whole nation above the Schelde-river. It's slightly more civilized then KaaskopFlemish people were all under French rule for long periods in time. Are they independent now?
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@Luhmann said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
so the world has settled on a shorter convention
that's why Flemish people
useabuse the term Holland and Hollander to not only refer the region above Amsterdam but also to the whole nation above the Schelde-river. It's slightly more civilized then KaaskopDoes anyone except the Dutch refer to the Netherlands as anything but Holland in everyday speech? Or to the UK as anything but England? Or to Unitedstatesofamericans as anything but Americans? I can see how that would be a bit unwieldy and the short USians could be confused with Asians, but after the "shithole countries" episode, maybe "USholes" (from "US" and "homoj", Esperanto for "people", obviously) would have a chance as a more precise demonym.
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@LaoC said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
Does anyone except the Dutch refer to the Netherlands as anything but Holland in everyday speech?
Well, I kind of assume that the French will use "Les Pays-Bas", i.e. "the Low lands" which translates more to "Nederland" than to "Holland".
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@Luhmann said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
Flemish people
useabuse the term Holland and Hollander to not only refer the region above Amsterdam but also to the whole nation above the Schelde-river.Glad to read I’m not included in that, then.
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@Gurth said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
Glad to read I’m not included in that, then.
The part below the river is sufficiently Flemish for direct assimilation
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@Luhmann said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
The part below the river is sufficiently Flemish for direct assimilation
You mean the bit across the water? You tried that once already.
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@robo2 In casual speech, we use "Hollande", though "Pays-Bas" is the official name of the country (and its inhabitants are officially called "Néerlandais", even though every one uses "Hollandais" casually).
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In 1909, all clocks in the Netherlands were synchronized with solar time in Amsterdam. Amsterdam Time or Dutch Time, as it was commonly called, was 19 minutes and 32 seconds ahead of Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), which was then the world's time standard. In 1937, the country's standard time was adjusted by 28 seconds to GMT+0:20 for simplicity's sake.
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@TimeBandit said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
@Benjamin-Hall said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
And people call the US bad about trans issues...
People call the US bad about LOTS of issues
That's how we know we're not
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@loopback0 said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
In 1909, all clocks in the Netherlands were synchronized with solar time in Amsterdam. Amsterdam Time or Dutch Time, as it was commonly called, was 19 minutes and 32 seconds ahead of Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), which was then the world's time standard. In 1937, the country's standard time was adjusted by 28 seconds to GMT+0:20 for simplicity's sake.
Approximately three years after the small correction, a slightly larger one was made:
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@Gurth said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
Are you trying to explain the etymology of the word Vandal? Because if so:
Etymology
From Latin Vandalus, named after the Germanic tribe, from Proto-Germanic *wandilaz, from Proto-Indo-European *wendʰ-eh₂-.*wendʰ-eh₂-
"Wendy's" is the source for "Vandals"?
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@Gurth In truth, I was obsessed after seeing this photo
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@Gurth said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
@loopback0 said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
In 1909, all clocks in the Netherlands were synchronized with solar time in Amsterdam. Amsterdam Time or Dutch Time, as it was commonly called, was 19 minutes and 32 seconds ahead of Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), which was then the world's time standard. In 1937, the country's standard time was adjusted by 28 seconds to GMT+0:20 for simplicity's sake.
Approximately three years after the small correction, a slightly larger one was made:
Translation for those too
to type all that into Google Translate?
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@djls45 The second line: 1 hour and 40 minutes
The rest I don't know, but from context I'm guessing something like "That's the runtime of a slightly longer than feature length movie"
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@Nagesh said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
and other educational questions by me!
They should be called Netherlandians or Netherlanders!
It's because of the legend of the Flying Dutchman. He was a man called "Dutch" who learned to fly on his own (not mechanical, actually fly). But doing so pinched some nerves in the wrong way. He was fine when he was flying, but if he were to land, the pinched nerves would cause blood clots and he would die.
He was a hero, and people identified with him. They proudly identified as a Friend of Dutch (which over time got shortened to just being Dutch).
So he flew forever, until one day he just faded away into the heavens. The Dutch people were very sad, and wanted to honor their hero. So they named their country after him. They didn't just want to name it "Dutchland", because it didn't really capture the essence of the feat he accomplished. He few his whole life, determined to never land.
And that's where it came from. Never land, with some old-time spelling, became Netherland.
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@djls45 summary: WW2, NL occupied by 🇩🇪 , switch to same time as 🇩🇪. With a final remark on "be happy, you get 1:40 of extra light in the evening"
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@robo2 It doesn't say '1:40', it says 'almost two'.
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@PleegWat ahh, yeah, sorry, CBA to do a literal translation,
and all that.
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@djls45 said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
Translation for those too
to type all that into Google Translate?I figured the headline would be sufficiently clear, but here you go:
All clocks forward:
1 hour and 40 minutesThe A.N.P. officially reported yesterday:
By command of the High Command of the German occupational forces, it is proclaimed that effective immediately, that until further notice in all of the Netherlands, the population should take the same black-out measures as have been in effect during the past days.
In order to reduce the effects of these measures to a minimum in the following days, it is further ordered that as of tonight at midnight, the Netherlands will use the same time (summer time) as Germany. For this reason, at midnight all clocks must be set so that they indicate 1:40 hours.
The above decision also has beneficial economic consequences, since almost two hours of additional daylight are gained for the evening.The “past days” refers to the time when there was actual fighting in the country, 10–17 May 1940, so this proclamation probably dates from only a few days after that at most.
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@Uchiha-Kakashi Welcome to the forum!
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@Lorne-Kates said in Why people of Netherland are called Dutch?:
He few
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