Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?
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@sockpuppet7 How about WYSIWYG, like how everything worked back in 2007?
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@blakeyrat I would still want to have a "edit html" in a wysiwyg interface, like I used to be able to do with outlook express. And what format would this wysiwyg use? An html subset? I think markdown is easier to be sanitized than html.
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@sockpuppet7 Implementation details do not interest me.
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@sockpuppet7 OGML
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Why not signs like in Minecraft? Nobody would ever needs more than 4x 15 characters Shirley?
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&l1L &l0E *p100x207Y (10U (s1p9v0s3b16602TWhy not PCL, it's very flexible?/I was going to include a :trollface: but it was 7kB of PCL 5e...
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@Cursorkeys TECO maybe. No syntax errors... very approachable
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How about LaTeX via a forum plugin?
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@hungrier GNU Infodoc, maybe, because the
manpage standard definitely isn't sufficient for a forum.
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@hungrier said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
How about LaTeX via a forum plugin?
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We could add Mathjax!
Oh, right.
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@boomzilla that link is restricted for me
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@sockpuppet7 if you care (and the category is rather dead at this point), join this group:
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@blakeyrat said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
@sockpuppet7 Implementation details do not interest me.
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@masonwheeler Haha hilarious, oh Scott Adams you insane genius-- well insane in any case.
Do you seriously think we should prioritize ease-of-development over having quality software?
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@blakeyrat said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
@masonwheeler Haha hilarious, oh Scott Adams you insane genius-- well insane in any case.
Do you seriously think we should prioritize ease-of-development over having quality software?
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@blakeyrat said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
Do you seriously think we should prioritize ease-of-development over having quality software?
Easy-of-development is directly related to cost, so yes, I would
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@blakeyrat said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
@masonwheeler Haha hilarious, oh Scott Adams you insane genius-- well insane in any case.
Do you seriously think we should prioritize ease-of-development over having quality software?
Prioritizing how easy it is for the developer to do their job means that if they do their job for the same amount of time, you get a better result.
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@blakeyrat said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
prioritize ease-of-development over having quality software?
No, but balance the two. If you only focus on ease-of-development, you'll get tons of crap software. If you focus on only having top-quality software you'll get no software at all, because finishing anything takes an infinite amount of time.
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@blakeyrat said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
@sockpuppet7 How about WYSIWYG, like how everything worked back in 2007?
You mean didn't work? Because I remember all WISYWIG forum editors from that time having weird problems of all kinds that made them unusable for anything more complicated than splitting text into paragraphs.
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@Gąska said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
You mean didn't work? Because I remember all WISYWIG forum editors from that time having weird problems of all kinds that made them unusable for anything more complicated than splitting text into paragraphs.
Many still do. On forums that provide a WYSIWYG editor, I normally switch to underwater mode to avoid the annoyance of dealing with the editor otherwise.
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@Gurth said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
@Gąska said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
You mean didn't work? Because I remember all WISYWIG forum editors from that time having weird problems of all kinds that made them unusable for anything more complicated than splitting text into paragraphs.
Many still do. On forums that provide a WYSIWYG editor, I normally switch to underwater mode to avoid the annoyance of dealing with the editor otherwise.
I used WP for many years, but I don't recall an underwater mode.
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@boomzilla said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
@sockpuppet7 if you care (and the category is rather dead at this point), join this group:
No description available for that. Is it for
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people who are either programmers or testers
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people who are both programmers or testers
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people who are testers for programmers
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people who program and/or test on the WTDWTF forum software
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cool kids
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etc.
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@chozang said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
@boomzilla said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
@sockpuppet7 if you care (and the category is rather dead at this point), join this group:
No description available for that. Is it for
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people who are either programmers or testers
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people who are both programmers or testers
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people who are testers for programmers
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people who program and/or test on the WTDWTF forum software
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cool kids
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etc.
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Yes
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@chozang said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
@Gurth said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
@Gąska said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
You mean didn't work? Because I remember all WISYWIG forum editors from that time having weird problems of all kinds that made them unusable for anything more complicated than splitting text into paragraphs.
Many still do. On forums that provide a WYSIWYG editor, I normally switch to underwater mode to avoid the annoyance of dealing with the editor otherwise.
I used WP for many years, but I don't recall an underwater mode.
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@PleegWat said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
@chozang said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
@Gurth said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
@Gąska said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
You mean didn't work? Because I remember all WISYWIG forum editors from that time having weird problems of all kinds that made them unusable for anything more complicated than splitting text into paragraphs.
Many still do. On forums that provide a WYSIWYG editor, I normally switch to underwater mode to avoid the annoyance of dealing with the editor otherwise.
I used WP for many years, but I don't recall an underwater mode.
I thought you might be talking about "Reveal Codes", but I wasn't sure.
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@Cursorkeys said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
&l1L &l0E *p100x207Y (10U (s1p9v0s3b16602TWhy not PCL, it's very flexible?/I was going to include a :trollface: but it was 7kB of PCL 5e...
PCL6 is better.
PostScript is betterer
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@chozang said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
I thought you might be talking about "Reveal Codes", but I wasn't sure.
In Dutch anyway, this was normally referred to as the “onderwater” screen, and I kind of assumed it was in English as well. Maybe not.
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@Gurth said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
@chozang said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
I thought you might be talking about "Reveal Codes", but I wasn't sure.
In Dutch anyway, this was normally referred to as the “onderwater” screen, and I kind of assumed it was in English as well. Maybe not.
My google images search was for "wordperfect 5.1 under water view", which google corrected to "underwater", and the first relevant screenshot was in French (Or Walloon, I wouldn't know the difference). So definitely not just Dutch.
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@PleegWat said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
in French (Or Walloon, I wouldn't know the difference)
They’re two different languages, but few people speak Walloon anymore, it having been largely replaced in Belgium by a French dialect over the 20th century. About the only way I know to tell French French and Belgian French apart is if the speaker or text says “nonante” instead of “quatre-vingt-dix,” you’re likely dealing with a Belgian (or, on research, a Congolese, a Rwandan, a Swiss, or an Acadian).
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@Gurth Informative, but watch your language.
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@boomzilla said in Would asciidoc or something like that be better than markdown for forums?:
We could add Mathjax!
Oh, right.
I'm actually currently trying to marry MathJax and markdown for a pet project of mine. My implementation (similar to here - TextBlock on the left, live preview on the right) works fine if I use either MathJax or markdown.
Both in combination yield an ever increasing number of the same formulas - it looks to me like MathJax doesn't properly scrub the page between updates.
So now I have both a "Typeset all the formulas!" and a "Remove all the typesets!" button under the preview.
And whoever did the documentation for MathJax should be stood against the wall and shot. As well as some of the developers.
I mean, just look at this:
MathJax.Hub.Queue(["Typeset", Mathjax.Hub, "id_of_whatever_node_I_want"])I mean, here I'm passing a reference of the object I'm using into a function of the same object. Oh, and they require you to install the
MathJaxobject as a global so there's no fucking point to passing the reference around anyway.
