Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]
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@aitap said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
I'll probably regret entering this discussion, but why is it a good idea to require people to log in somewhere even to install a free app?
Beats me. Probably because they want to know who or at least how many people installed it for some reason.
Though in the store case I'd say the reason is that there is one mechanism for distributing anything where the free content serves mainly to attract user's attention so they are more likely to also notice the paid content, and the identity is there so any purchases can be safely recorded if it comes to that.
@aitap said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
Besides, people have been installing paid software without logging in anywhere for years.
But they have to buy the install media or install keys somehow, so the seller has some idea how many they've sold.
Also, it works without login in physical stores, but online stores need some kind of identification and that generally ends up being some login.
@aitap said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
Which user's problem does it solve?
User's? Absolutely none. But the provider works in their best interest, not the user's.
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@Gribnit said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
@Steve_The_Cynic I hear some centuries you could hope for strangulation prior to immolation.
Indeed, but usually as an alternative to immolation after strangulation.
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@aitap said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
why is it a good idea to require people to log in somewhere even to install a free app
GDPR!
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@Luhmann said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
GDPR!
Apparently the actual regulation makes a lot more sense than the utterly brain-damaged interpretations that various consultants present and almost everybody goes by.
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@Polygeekery Currently it's the only way to play Gears of War 4 on PC. That's the only game I care about on there that isn't also on Steam.
Plus, there's Microsoft Rewards, which gives you points for using Bing which you can spend on Store credit.
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@jakjawagon said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
Plus, there's Microsoft Rewards, which gives you points for using Bing which you can spend on Store credit.
The only reason for anyone using Bing
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@pie_flavor said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
Only people who actively avoid it don't use it, a category mostly filled by curmudgeonly computer people who don't like change
I've downloaded a couple of things from it, but normally when I look it's basically all phone apps that have the "desktop compatible" option set. Of course, I haven't looked since before MS officially dropped Windows Phone, so maybe it's a bit better now
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@pie_flavor said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
You can download movies and shows
But my desktop is always online. It's not like my phone where I might have it with me in the middle of nowhere or abroad
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@aitap said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
Which user's problem does it solve?
If you have a catastrophic hard drive failure, new PC etc. you can log in and see all of the free and paid apps you bought, in one place, to redownload them all without having to remember what I had and which site I went to to get them from
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@bulb said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
@aitap said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
I'll probably regret entering this discussion, but why is it a good idea to require people to log in somewhere even to install a free app?
Beats me. Probably because they want to know who or at least how many people installed it for some reason.
Because even the free ones are "licensed". You can only install it on 10 devices. Yes, I've hit the limit (old retired machines, VMs, etc - they add up)
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@bulb said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
@aitap said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
Which user's problem does it solve?
User's? Absolutely none. But the provider works in their best interest, not the user's.
It solves the out-of-date software issue... Yeah, you can write your own autoinstaller. But do you really want to? It's really easy to fuck up security... (I've spent more time than I'd like working on MSI projects)
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@dcon said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
Because even the free ones are "licensed". You can only install it on 10 devices.
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@dcon Is this the Home version or Enterprise/Professional version of Windows?
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@dcon That could work exactly the same without requiring an MS account for free software.
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@jakjawagon said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
Plus, there's Microsoft Rewards, which gives you points for using Bing which you can spend on Store credit.
Script something that asks Bing from your computer about random stuff at random times?
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@dcon said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
Because even the free ones are "licensed". You can only install it on 10 devices. Yes, I've hit the limit (old retired machines, VMs, etc - they add up)
The iOS App Store has a similar silly thing: many free apps say that you can share them with up to six family members.
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@stillwater said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
@dcon Is this the Home version or Enterprise/Professional version of Windows?
All. (as far as I know - because the license is associated to your ID, not to the OS-type you're on)
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@Jaloopa said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
@pie_flavor said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
You can download movies and shows
But my desktop is always online. It's not like my phone where I might have it with me in the middle of nowhere or abroad
Airplanes, trains, etc. Same place you'd use your phone for that. Or I would, in any case.
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@pie_flavor what?
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@Gribnit Airplanes and trains are locations where you do not have internet, but still have vast swathes of uninterrupted free time in which to use a laptop. I use this functionality every time I am in an airplane or train.
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@pie_flavor they aren't the easiest place to set up my monitors, find a plug that will take my 450W power supply and leave space for the keyboard and mouse
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@pie_flavor said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
Airplanes and trains are locations where you do not have internet
Not necessarily true. But they're gonna make you pay.
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@dcon said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
@pie_flavor said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
Airplanes and trains are locations where you do not have internet
Not necessarily true. But they're gonna make you pay.
Well, Caltrain doesn't have internet. And internet access isn't worth the ~$10 an airplane will charge.
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@pie_flavor said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
Caltrain doesn't have internet
I remember them talking about it a number of years ago. I think that died due to
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@dcon And the fares remain low. So it's not like I'm complaining.
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@dcon said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
It solves the out-of-date software issue...
I think Chocolatey is one of the examples of third-party auto-updaters for Windows apps that doesn't require sign-up. (At least, it didn't when I first heard of it.) Not to mention APT and stuff for the less popular operating systems.
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With one of the latest updates of the Microsoft Store it is not required to sign in with a account to download free stuff. It will beg to login, but there is a button to ignore it and just download the app.
I like that when using computer at work, so I do not have to create a account just to download some needed apps.
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@littletijn Welcome back!
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@pie_flavor Thanks! As you might notice I'm mostly a lurker, only posting something when I can add something.
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@littletijn said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
@pie_flavor Thanks! As you might notice I'm mostly a lurker, only posting something when I can add something.
I've been doing it all wrong these days!
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@littletijn It's better than posting only when you can't add something, as certain users here like to do.
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@pie_flavor said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
@littletijn It's better than posting only when you can't add something, as certain users here like to do.
Hah, nonsense.
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@pie_flavor said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
@littletijn It's better than posting only when you can't add something, as certain users here like to do.
What?
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@Bulb said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
@Luhmann said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
GDPR!
Apparently the actual regulation makes a lot more sense than the utterly brain-damaged interpretations that various consultants present and almost everybody goes by.
If the actual regulations made sense, you wouldn't need a brain-damaged consultant to help you interpret them.
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@pie_flavor said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
@Jaloopa said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
@pie_flavor said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
You can download movies and shows
But my desktop is always online. It's not like my phone where I might have it with me in the middle of nowhere or abroad
Airplanes, trains, etc. Same place you'd use your phone for that. Or I would, in any case.
You missed an important bit:
@Jaloopa said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
But my desktop is always online. It's not like my phone where I might have it with me in the middle of nowhere or abroad
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@Deadfast I might have. Or I might have interpreted it to mean the area where all the icons are. The world may never know.
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@Gurth I usually spend about 2 minutes a day searching for:
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@pie_flavor said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
Airplanes and trains are locations where you do not have internet
Airplanes maybe (last time I was in one that wasn’t on the ground was in 1999), but many (most? all?) trains have free wifi in this country.
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@pie_flavor HIya, I have weighed the addition from your most recent posts and found it negative. Prepare to be devoured by Aamet.
inb4: What?
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@Gribnit said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
@pie_flavor HIya, I have weighed the addition from your most recent posts and found it negative. Prepare to be devoured by Aamet.
inb4: What?
Wut?
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@Tsaukpaetra Wat?
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@Tsaukpaetra Bwah.
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@Gurth said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
@pie_flavor said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
Airplanes and trains are locations where you do not have internet
Airplanes maybe (last time I was in one that wasn’t on the ground was in 1999), but many (most? all?) trains have free wifi in this country.
which country?
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@Gribnit said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
@pie_flavor HIya, I have weighed the addition from your most recent posts and found it negative. Prepare to be devoured by Aamet.
inb4: What?
Wat?
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@pie_flavor Wut?1
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